Which expansion do you think was STOs best?

evilmark444

Which expansion do you think was STOs best?

I'm going with LoR, because the volume of new missions surpasses both DR and AoY. Since TOS characters only get 6 unique missions, I was expecting there to be at least 10 cross faction missions, but nope just 5. I'm not sure where I'd put it in relation to DR overall, but AoY is definitely the most disappointing expansion IMHO.

sharpie65

Delta Rising

For the moment, I don't think it's particularly fair to include AoY in that poll. It being the newest expansion, we can't really say too much about it until the next season comes along.

As to why I think DR was the best, it came with a ton of new content - granted, there were people who complained that you couldn't burn through it like a serial on Netflix, but it meant those people were playing for longer than a couple of days before going back into hibernation. I had the misfortune of playing it through before the levelling was revised..it's a lot better now than it was on release.

kekvin

Legacy of Romulus

LOR mainly due the story content. But AOY is pretty close up there.

farmallm

Legacy of Romulus

I went with LOR as it told a really great story. And it really captivate you as you did it. A lot of missions to do and you didn't have to do the full story arcs. DR would be my 2nd choice. I like how they did that story as well. The side missions was really nice as it help progress the story. And to "allow" time for more development on the main story. To make it look like they was looking into it. At least from the RP perspective. Lots of good missions as well. Lastly I would put AOY. It is supposed to be a Temporal Agent Recruit, but with the "New Faction" label. So in turn that mislead the player base. However I went from keeping the character to Lv10, to now leveling it up to around Lv50. In hopes they come out with a T6 Connie/Connie Refit. So they will be ready.

snoggymack22

Agents of Yesterday

I went with the one that I spent money on for the pack.

evilmark444

Legacy of Romulus

snoggymack22 wrote: »

I went with the one that I spent money on for the pack.

First one I've purchased the pack for too, but it doesn't change how disappointing I find the content. Even the pack is disappointing since the 31st century ships only have one material they can use.

gradii

Legacy of Romulus

LOR still wins.

deleroux

Legacy of Romulus

The bar is set pretty low, so LoR takes it quite easily. And it's not even close.

nadiezja

Legacy of Romulus

Romulus. I liked Delta Rising and enjoy Agents, but seriously. Romulus.

sennahcherib

Legacy of Romulus

no need to ask, lol

lordgyor

Delta Rising

Romulus. Heck I only briefly dabble in the Romulan story line, but it was interesting.

But I really loved the Klingon story line.

So far this season I really like the 31st century ships, even if I have no idea how we got them plot wise.

Still most of my favourite stuff was seasonal, not expansion made, like the Dyson Sphere content, the Dominion Arc, the The Mirror universe missions, those ques were you defend your Fleet Star Base.

aedelric10

Legacy of Romulus

LoR hands down the best, but AoY is very good, just not enough TOS missions.

They need to capture that LoR magic again, they should bite the bullet remake DS9 and get started on a Cardiassian faction for the next expansion. I really do not understand why they have been avoiding it for so many years.

duncanidaho11

Agents of Yesterday

I like AOY best. There's not as much stuff but it does a lot more (probably because it's not just trying to pad out the run time, as were quite a few LoR missions [see. the re-purposed PVE's] and the DR patrol requirements.) The missions feel punchy, memorable, fun, and they did a lot to move the universe around. Characters were good, settings well chosen (ex. where else we went in Vorgon Conclusions), and I'm really looking forward to what they'll do next (which is rare for games these days, there seems to be creative depth at work).

I think continued involvement with the season leans very heavily on the Temporal Recruit system, but how that works very nicely compliments the TOS character. Here's someone with a very place in the galaxy and FED history, and to see the whole of STO from their point of view (otherwise, no rewards) is quite something.

Definitely, if we had an expansion more like LoR (more missions, but a hell of a lot more fluff) I wouldn't be enjoying things as much as I am. AOY is fantastic for where the game is now.

dragnridr

Legacy of Romulus

As much as LoR was only half a faction, It was a great example of how factions are done. Granted, it could have had the rest of it completed, like the level 10-60 missions actually been created, as well as more KDF and Rommie ships. But it also included the missing KDF stuff.

Delta was just a big mess from the start and AoY is just a glorified tutorial and excuse to replay old missions again with no KDF or Rommie support.

But according to the devs, creating 3 full factions worth of story arcs and 3 versions of each ship for each faction is just too much work. So we can expect nothing but Fed stuff from here on out. Devs really didn't want KDF and Rommies anyway so they are now getting their wish.

jexsamx

Legacy of Romulus

AoY is still young and needs time to stretch its legs - not a single expansion or season release has ever been all at once, remember. A season/expansion lasts as long as until the next one drops, and can only be judged fairly and accurately once it's run is over. So comparing it at this stage is comparing it without all the information we need.

Having said that, LoR was hands down the best expansion. Love or hate the implementation, it gave us one of the most requesting things in STO's history - playable Romulans, with their own full set of leveling ships, a nice lineup of new missions, and something oft forgotten; expanded Klingon content, filling out some of its gaps as well. It was the last hurrah those factions would get, too, as ever since they've been nursing the teats of the Federation's vastly greater player popularity and barely subsisting, getting no real help from Cryptic.

So far AoY is the clear runner up. What it lacks in quantity even compared to DR it makes up for in quality. It'll never topple LoR, but the hierarchy is virtually non-debatable.

snoggymack22

Agents of Yesterday

dragnridr wrote: »

As much as LoR was only half a faction, It was a great example of how factions are done.

6 years of Forum experience has led me to believe that the only example of how a faction is done right in this game is the Federation faction.

Everything else falls short and there's thousands and thousands of threads stating the myriad ways the Klingons, Romulans and now Temp-Feds all fall short.

mustrumridcully0

Delta Rising

I think Delta Rising. I wasn't a big fan of VOY (still not), but it had a neat plot. BUt more importantly was all the new stuff it brought to the game. Tier 6 ships were of course mostly something for Cryptic to make money, but they weren't lazy when they did create their Tier 6 retrofits. A lot of good designs there, with a new level of quality we haven't seen before.
Specializations updated stale endgame considerably, with new things to learn, and most importantly perhaps new powers to use. And it lead to the Iconian War, which finally concluded a major story arc.

LOR was undoubtedly a great expansion, too - the Romulan story is probably the best written story in STO yet. I can totally understand why some see it as the best.

TOS has a fascinating amount of attention to detail, in replicating the TOS aesthetics, not just visually, but also the sounds. Playing a TOS character might still mean in the end playing a Fed character going through mostly the same missions - but hose new sound effects for the UI will stay for you forever.

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kodachikuno

Legacy of Romulus

I had to give it to LoR, because of the sheer volume of content and the quality of writing. We not only got a Romulan fraction, we got KDF as a FULL faction finally, and the writing quality in the episodes was higher in that expansion than anything since. I say that, despite absolutely hating what they did to Romulans and the Star Empire.

Thus far tho, there is almost as much I love about AoY as I did LoR, hell I even bought the $130 pack for this, which I didn't do for LoR sadly, to show the devs I thought this was a really great idea. Aside from not being able to turn off the migraine inducing film grain, and some complaints about TOS gear/BOFF skills. AoY is a really great expansion imo.

kjwashington

Legacy of Romulus

You guys are all wrong!!!! Delta Rising was the best expansion EVAR and the players LOVED it!!!!!!

snoggymack22

Agents of Yesterday

kjwashington wrote: »

You guys are all wrong!!!! Delta Rising was the best expansion EVAR and the players LOVED it!!!!!!

Burning Crusade was pretty good though too.

redeyedraven

Agents of Yesterday

For STO-Standards, AoY takes the cake. It's basically an expansion to the only "complete faction" the game TRULY offers.

Let's face it, though LoR has very strong content too, all it did was adding playable romulans - that were mostly turned into federation-proxies with Warbirds and singularity-cores...

megan2478

Legacy of Romulus

AOY was tempting, but it needs more stuffz. And tribbles.

hypl

Legacy of Romulus

LoR, where Cryptic did it...mostly right.

sernonserculion

Legacy of Romulus

Voted for the meditation space they gave us. It is nice and quiet, most of the time. As is proper!

seaofsorrows

Legacy of Romulus

Even though I really like AOY, I voted LoR.

AOY is great, but to me it doesn't really feel like an expansion. It feels more like a recruiting event in the style of the Delta Recruiting event. The content is good, but it's short, and really in the end, it's just an alternate way to start the Federation Story line.

LoR introduced an entirely new playable race/sub faction. AOY, while great, is really just a much cooler tutorial for Fed players.

Delta Rising, I'm just trying to forget.. I hated it all.

fmgtorres1979

Legacy of Romulus

LoR - Romulans - D'Deridex Warbird

I like AoY but it's just too short.

fatman592

Legacy of Romulus

LoR by far. PvP was in its last great era, where the barrier to entry was pretty low with great balance between Kirks and Teams. Though Romulans were a fraction, it made sense since the Empire was fractured by the Hobus Nova. Power creep yes, but LoR powercreep seems like child's play now. And we got pretty large map to explore, with some fantastic artistic vision.

DR was a pure grindfest coupled with a strong cash grab - but at least we got access to the Delta Quadrant.

AoY has a pitiful amount of content built purely to fleece TOS fans who will log in for the event only. Good for the Devs, I'm sure we'll hear AoY was the most successful yet. Successful in making them money, sure, but in terms of fun, meh.

LoR was fun, it was the only one that was. Anyone voting otherwise is either blinded by nostalgia or is deeply invested in feeling pain (can't believe it censors that word lol).

snoggymack22

Agents of Yesterday

Log in for what event? The summer event?

janus1975

Legacy of Romulus

Legacy of Romulus of course for the reasons others already mentioned. The reason I think it's fair to include Agents of Yesterday in the poll is because it sold a whole raft of TOS-era ships yet only included enough missions for those to be used in the first tier, plus, the TOS-era ships don't really fit into the 2410 universe (while LoR's Romulan-specific missions ran out early too, it still made sense to include Romulan ships for Romulans).

Imagine the promotion mission pep talk from Quinn "Yes, you're in the 24th century now but heck, you got planted here from 200 years ago so here you go, a literal museum piece to defend the galaxy with that'd make the Miranda look futuristic by comparison... try not to get killed, toodles!"

fatman592

Legacy of Romulus

snoggymack22 wrote: »

Log in for what event? The summer event?

I'm referring to the temporal recruit event going on now. That's about how long it would take someone playing casually to reach 60. Though I'm sure most won't max out their characters.