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31st Century ships aren't Timeships?
khaenaenno
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I brought Eternal-class and noticed I can't use my temporal consoles set (from Wells-Mobius-Paradox) on it.
I am not sure - is it a bug, or it's just as designed and I supposed to be limited to "31st Century Temporal Technologies" set? It just seems a little strange.
I am not sure - is it a bug, or it's just as designed and I supposed to be limited to "31st Century Temporal Technologies" set? It just seems a little strange.
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I'm NOT going to give up "backstep" just for some new and unproven Boff powers and a new Starship Trait. Plus, it's slower and less maneuverable, which will only make me an even more attractive target in PvP.
I was on the fence. Not anymore...very disappointing.
RCK - a.k.a. "Evul Jacob"
But yeah, it's kinda sad to lose backstep. I believed I will have a problem to put temporal consoles to new ship.
That's not to say it makes sense or is justified or anything. I'm already lost to how future and alternate timeline technology isn't already obsoleting all existing technology, and how knowledge of the future hasn't already caused havok in the present. I guess "alternate timestreams and parallel universes" is the magic want that is supposed to make it all okay.
I mean, design-wise, they DO have the necessary elements on them that the unique Temporal set powers could animate properly.
They even still use the Wells-style bridges, so in-game technical-wise, they're probably not that much more advanced than their predecessor design.
I'll just consider this omission an unfortunate oversight for now, and keep my fingers crossed it gets corrected.
I think that the majority technologies that were too advanced for the current time period got yanked from the Temporal Ships, leaving bits and pieces left over, such as the Temporal Anchor, which as impressive as it is, is still just one piece of equiptment.
And if I had to guess the 31st Century ships used radically different time travel technology then time ships like the Wells.
it'd be like trying to put parts for a old crank start car into a new, top of the line 2016 sports car. Both are designed to drive on the road, but they use vastly different technology to do so.
I suspect that the 31st Century Ships used the Molecular Reconstruction ability to travel through time, instead of the less stable, fragmantation tech of the Paradox, the Wells, Aeon, the Rozenkeo, the Antharax, ect...
This would also explain why the Wells doesn't get temporal boff slots, Temporal Boffs are tied to a specific type of temporal technology, that functions very differently from what the Wells uses.
The Annarax, the Wells, ect... use a brute force temporal technology, that can cause temporal fragmentation, I think that the Temporal Operative technology the 31st Century ships use is smoother and easier on the time line, the Wells exploits its temporal technologies flaws to its advantage, manipulating the temporal fragmentation, were as the 31st Century ships can't because they don't fragment the timeline, they subtlely shape it instead.
we're in the middle of a temporal war not a cold one ether, the timeline is a little messy right now.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Yeah, but maybe their temporal gear isn't as finely tuned as the 29th century starships who's consoles this thread seems to primarily focus on?
Also, in-game-wise, they don't seem to share enough in their designs to be able to use the animations for stuff like Temporal Backstep, such as the temporal field generators along the topsides of the ships.
as for 31st century ship I must say I'm little bit dissapointed on how the interior got handled....
so we got a microscopic bridge, with the way to the potential rest of the ship shutted off not even by a closed doors but by frikkin invisible wall no other interior and no possibility of putting any other bridge or any other interior into it,
assuming rest of "temporal ships" got the same means extremely lazy route for the family of 9 ships
ok maybe such limitations were okeish when it was only wells bridge - but with expanding it onto NINE MORE SHIPS they could have put maybe a little bit more work into it...
also as for causal anchor it seems bugged for the moment being - if tooltip was to be believed it should have stronger pull than my grav well 3, but in practice I need to use GW3 to hold stuf in place for causal anchor actually.....
for the moment being I have extremely mixed feeling about the ship though - will see how it will go when I'll get my hands on temporal operative boff abilities....
Its actually a Canon bridge I believe, from Voyage, so blame them.
I do like the temporal transporter right on the bridge however, its the same transporter that repeatedly transported 7 of Nine and Janeway through time.
Personally I believe that using the Wells bridge is a mistake for the 31st ships because out the port window you will likely see your own ship, as a Wells like in the Wells ship.
They should make a new bridge for the 31sts.
Don't forget that in the 26th Century we've evolved past the need for chairs, apparently, going by that bridge.
These TOS ships including the 31st versions are seriously underwhelming, they will sell to the calf eyed TOS visual fans like candy, thats it.
or at least give us possibility to replace it with some on our own [*cought* *cought* C-Store Bridges *cought*cought*]
and then - even the bridge being in this shape in voyager does not explain why they ended it it invisible wall.....
The 31st Century ships are time ships still, so they went back in time to the 26th century, where the designers some how gained limited access to the Temporal Technology the 31st Century ships use, and added them to these new 26th century ships.
The 31st Century ships aren't TOS based at all, on an appearence and universal theme level they're influenced by a combination of Voyager's time travel ship the Wells.
Particular Time ships are influenced by the Vestas (The Eternal), the Dreadnaught & Flight Deck Cruisers of all factions (the Chronos), and the BoPs of both the Romulans and Klingons and the light escorts of the Federation.
A) The 26th Century Temporal ships are developed in the 26th Century.
C) Use of Temporal Molecular Recreation tech is used to build ships again, using the 26th Century tech as a starting point in the 31st Century, perfecting it.
A) The 31st Century ships go back in time to inspire the 26th Century design, because otherwise there 31st century ships ceases to exist.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1217440/will-new-t6-temporal-ships-be-able-to-use-consoles-from-mobius-and-wells
And response:
Plus release notes:
Updated descriptions on Manheim Device and Tipler Cylinder consoles, to clarify which classes of "temporal" starships can use them.
Wells/Korath/R'mor Temporal Science Vessel
Mobius/Krenn/Talvath Temporal Destroyer
Aeon/Rozhenko Timeship,
Annorax Science Dreadnought
Paradox Temporal Dreadnought
Updated long description on Temporal Rift Stabilizer (Paradox Console) to replace "Any Temporal Starship" with appropriate list of class restrictions.
Not sure if they would change their minds about it but to me its just a money grab unless impossible to code.
i was refering to the new z-store ship listings to clarify the post, my bad, they are still seriously underwhelming compared to the ships that were already available imo.
Not worth the money for new graphics and some gimmicks.
The Eternal is a total beast, on par or better than the Vesta.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Well that explains it i suppose, i dont fly sci ships, they do admiralty duty.
i suppose if its a $30 single buy and one flies sci ships, the $130 bundle?, the Andorian tac cant wear 1/2 the stuff i already bought, not worth the cash.
Now that i think about it, the 2 bajoran boffs i got through AOY storyline cant either, welcome to Starbug Online.
Just stay speaking for yourself..... CausalAnchor, Recursive Shearing and Time_Line collapse is deadly..... and on a Chronos you also have enough boff seats for a Grav well thrown in there too.
only exception is Chronos in which Cryptic flipped a Nandi :P
Scroll up and read the 8:43am post, i already answered your answer.
I dont care what they are, 1/2 of the packs i bought pre-AOY that should apply at the tailor dont work.
The ship tailor is also twitchy in some respects with this AOY toon, no suprise at all.
I dont care if they give me a ship that can 1 shot everything in the game, far too many things are broken atm for me to give them any money at all other than older offerings i haven't bought yet.
If it doesnt apply to AOY toons after i bought it, it's epic fail.
Typical broken content release.