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ktonof1aqktonof1aq Member Posts: 210 Arc User
In rewatching Enterprise I noticed T'pol is often captain of the ship. Not only is she left in charge a lot, sometimes she is the outright Captain while Archer is presumed dead, out with the xindi, etc. I also noticed that T'pol is a HORRIBLE Captain.

Also think it would be AWESOME to get Jeffrey Combs as a voice in the game. Talk about an incredible actor.
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    Personally, I feel like if Combs is to be brought on, he needs to be a new, original character. I feel this way because that's kind of his Trek shtick - he's played 7+ characters on Star Trek, Shran and Weyoun having far and away more screen time.

    I want to see him voice a smooth-talking Romulan with a penchant for subtly hitting on the player.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,585 Community Moderator
    jexsamx wrote: »
    I want to see him voice a smooth-talking Romulan with a penchant for subtly hitting on the player.

    I don't know about hitting on the player, but he HAS played a Romulan before.

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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    Weyoun is unlikely since Garak killed his last clone and the cloning facilities where he was stored were destroyed. And Combs didn't like playing Brunt at all. Shran would be possible or as has been suggested a completely new character. Having his voice in STO would be a great addition.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    ktonof1aq wrote: »
    In rewatching Enterprise I noticed T'pol is often captain of the ship. Not only is she left in charge a lot, sometimes she is the outright Captain while Archer is presumed dead, out with the xindi, etc. I also noticed that T'pol is a HORRIBLE Captain.

    Also think it would be AWESOME to get Jeffrey Combs as a voice in the game. Talk about an incredible actor.

    Janeway is the worst, she is a psychopath, she isnt happy until she kills someone on the job and ruins someone elses day. shes a thug in uniform and a delusional one at that.

    as for combs, he was cast for commander Riker before TNG started but ultimately Frakes was chosen for the role. but yes, he had his moments with various characters.

    since Combs has not been a major character on star trek, i think there is a good chance to get him and Andy J. on the show, if there is some travelling back in time, perhaps even Alaimo and Briggs. there is plenty of room to work from.
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Hmm, well since I think T'Pol is far more competent than Archer I have to disagree. However, I too would love to hear Mr. Coombs voice in this game. If he could be Shran I would love it even more, I'd only want Weyoun for a Cardassian/Dominion Faction launch. Of course Coombs doing some random completely new character would be awesome too.

    Brunt... FCA...
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    I heard a long time ago that Va'Kel Shon was supposed to be voiced by Jeffrey Combs, but as a result of scheduling conflicts and/or the possibility Dave Rivas is probably asking for a lot less money, that didn't happen.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Jeffrey Combs in STO, even as a new character. Unfortunately, Cryptic seems to have this policy of only allowing actors from the shows/films to reprise their former characters (with exceptions like Zachary Quinto as the vulcan holodoc in the tutorial), since I do believe Wil Wheaton said he would be interested in voicework for STO as long as he didn't have to reprise the role of Wesley Crusher.

    Which, of course, was outright rejected because who cares about having premium voice talent in your game as long as you can dredge up some actor's horrendous childhood experiences so you can say "Hey, remember this character from Star Trek, well we got them back!"

    Whether it's Weyoun or Shran, I wouldn't mind seeing him make a return to STO. Whether it's a clone, a time-displaced counterpart, android, sentient hologram, or whatever. I'd be pleased regardless.​​
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  • apulseapulse Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    Andrew Robinson and Jeffrey Combs in Star Trek Online would be better then all expansions combined . Eliam Garak and Weyoun in STO? Anyone more then me that gets that warm and fuzzy feeling inside?
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    szim wrote: »
    And Combs didn't like playing Brunt at all.

    Not sure why you would say that, but it is incorrect, from the man himself:

    On Brunt:
    Combs: That headpiece. Even though I had big ears, I could not hear. But, man, did I have the best time playing Brunt. To be able to make Quark squirm… delicious would be the word that I would use to describe Brunt.

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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    I heard a long time ago that Va'Kel Shon was supposed to be voiced by Jeffrey Combs, but as a result of scheduling conflicts and/or the possibility Dave Rivas is probably asking for a lot less money, that didn't happen.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Jeffrey Combs in STO, even as a new character. Unfortunately, Cryptic seems to have this policy of only allowing actors from the shows/films to reprise their former characters (with exceptions like Zachary Quinto as the vulcan holodoc in the tutorial), since I do believe Wil Wheaton said he would be interested in voicework for STO as long as he didn't have to reprise the role of Wesley Crusher.

    Which, of course, was outright rejected because who cares about having premium voice talent in your game as long as you can dredge up some actor's horrendous childhood experiences so you can say "Hey, remember this character from Star Trek, well we got them back!"

    Whether it's Weyoun or Shran, I wouldn't mind seeing him make a return to STO. Whether it's a clone, a time-displaced counterpart, android, sentient hologram, or whatever. I'd be pleased regardless.​​

    Me too.

    Jeffrey Combs made Enterprise, as Shran. Getting him in game, as any character, would be a boon to STO.

    Besides, Combs played so many characters in DS9 ,having him voice an unrelated character in STO, wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination...

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  • isthisscienceisthisscience Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    tousseau wrote: »
    Brunt... FCA...

    Weird thing I find is the the UK's financial services watchdog is now called the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA). I work with banks a lot and every time I hear about an FCA inquiry that quote, and grin, runs through my head. I get odd looks for smiling at that name now...
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    I love Combs as an actor. It would be good to see him in STO for a role of some kind.

    As for the worst Captain, JJ Kirk.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    You kidding? Archer was one of the best Captains.

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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    Oh, and Janeway was the worst Captain. T'Pol was a horrible vulcan, but she doesn't have an entire STO expansion revolving around the player fixing her TRIBBLE-ups.

    That's a level of horrible decision-making only Janeway could achieve.​​
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    Worst Captain of all time on screen in Star Trek for me is the Captain of the Enterprise-B in Generations.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    captsol wrote: »
    Worst Captain of all time on screen in Star Trek for me is the Captain of the Enterprise-B in Generations.

    I don't think that's his fault. I mean sure, he probably got marked for the rest of his Starfleet Career as the guy who got James Kirk killed on a shakedown cruise around the Solar System.

    It's Starfleet's fault for not having capable ships near the Solar System... I can't swing a sehlat without hitting somebody's ship in orbit of Earth. I also can't blame Captain Harriman for being reluctant about rushing to the rescue in a ship that wasn't prepared. If you don't have the equipment or technical skills to make a rescue, you just don't do it.

    Kirk could have easily caused the Enterprise-B to blow up along with all the El-Aurian refugees, but since he died, Harriman is the one who gets caught with the blame.​​
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    I heard a long time ago that Va'Kel Shon was supposed to be voiced by Jeffrey Combs, but as a result of scheduling conflicts and/or the possibility Dave Rivas is probably asking for a lot less money, that didn't happen.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Jeffrey Combs in STO, even as a new character. Unfortunately, Cryptic seems to have this policy of only allowing actors from the shows/films to reprise their former characters (with exceptions like Zachary Quinto as the vulcan holodoc in the tutorial), since I do believe Wil Wheaton said he would be interested in voicework for STO as long as he didn't have to reprise the role of Wesley Crusher.

    Which, of course, was outright rejected because who cares about having premium voice talent in your game as long as you can dredge up some actor's horrendous childhood experiences so you can say "Hey, remember this character from Star Trek, well we got them back!"

    Whether it's Weyoun or Shran, I wouldn't mind seeing him make a return to STO. Whether it's a clone, a time-displaced counterpart, android, sentient hologram, or whatever. I'd be pleased regardless.​​

    i thought i remember seeing a blog a while back about reducing the avalible voice talent to those who were apart of the los angeles actors guild. in effect anyone who is apart of that actors guild would qualify, outside that, there is not a lot cryptic can do about it.
    iconians wrote: »
    captsol wrote: »
    Worst Captain of all time on screen in Star Trek for me is the Captain of the Enterprise-B in Generations.

    I don't think that's his fault. I mean sure, he probably got marked for the rest of his Starfleet Career as the guy who got James Kirk killed on a shakedown cruise around the Solar System.

    It's Starfleet's fault for not having capable ships near the Solar System... I can't swing a sehlat without hitting somebody's ship in orbit of Earth. I also can't blame Captain Harriman for being reluctant about rushing to the rescue in a ship that wasn't prepared. If you don't have the equipment or technical skills to make a rescue, you just don't do it.

    Kirk could have easily caused the Enterprise-B to blow up along with all the El-Aurian refugees, but since he died, Harriman is the one who gets caught with the blame.​​

    you also have to understand that harriman was also reluctant to send in his ship and risk his crew within such a dangerous anomaly.

    he was not ready to be put in the seat when it came to do, he learned some hard lessons that day and i doubt anyone would blame harriman for what happened with kirk, it was a very difficult position he was in, but even so when it came to the crunch, he failed to shine under real pressure, more like he froze up like a rabbit to a bright light. if the new trek series shows what happened to harriman even if it was a few lines spoken between characters.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Porthos must have been worth it though. Look how much he is going for on the Exchange. :)
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    gradii wrote: »
    You kidding? Archer was one of the best Captains.

    Archer was such a bad captain that he almost started a damn war over his stupid fleabag DOG for cryin' out loud.

    Hey, man. In the JJ-verse a later dog owned by Archer also got Scotty marooned. Any dog owned by Archer is important. ;)
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    iconians wrote: »
    I heard a long time ago that Va'Kel Shon was supposed to be voiced by Jeffrey Combs, but as a result of scheduling conflicts and/or the possibility Dave Rivas is probably asking for a lot less money, that didn't happen.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Jeffrey Combs in STO, even as a new character. Unfortunately, Cryptic seems to have this policy of only allowing actors from the shows/films to reprise their former characters (with exceptions like Zachary Quinto as the vulcan holodoc in the tutorial), since I do believe Wil Wheaton said he would be interested in voicework for STO as long as he didn't have to reprise the role of Wesley Crusher.

    Which, of course, was outright rejected because who cares about having premium voice talent in your game as long as you can dredge up some actor's horrendous childhood experiences so you can say "Hey, remember this character from Star Trek, well we got them back!"

    Whether it's Weyoun or Shran, I wouldn't mind seeing him make a return to STO. Whether it's a clone, a time-displaced counterpart, android, sentient hologram, or whatever. I'd be pleased regardless.​​

    i thought i remember seeing a blog a while back about reducing the avalible voice talent to those who were apart of the los angeles actors guild. in effect anyone who is apart of that actors guild would qualify, outside that, there is not a lot cryptic can do about it.
    iconians wrote: »
    captsol wrote: »
    Worst Captain of all time on screen in Star Trek for me is the Captain of the Enterprise-B in Generations.

    I don't think that's his fault. I mean sure, he probably got marked for the rest of his Starfleet Career as the guy who got James Kirk killed on a shakedown cruise around the Solar System.

    It's Starfleet's fault for not having capable ships near the Solar System... I can't swing a sehlat without hitting somebody's ship in orbit of Earth. I also can't blame Captain Harriman for being reluctant about rushing to the rescue in a ship that wasn't prepared. If you don't have the equipment or technical skills to make a rescue, you just don't do it.

    Kirk could have easily caused the Enterprise-B to blow up along with all the El-Aurian refugees, but since he died, Harriman is the one who gets caught with the blame.​​

    you also have to understand that harriman was also reluctant to send in his ship and risk his crew within such a dangerous anomaly.

    he was not ready to be put in the seat when it came to do, he learned some hard lessons that day and i doubt anyone would blame harriman for what happened with kirk, it was a very difficult position he was in, but even so when it came to the crunch, he failed to shine under real pressure, more like he froze up like a rabbit to a bright light. if the new trek series shows what happened to harriman even if it was a few lines spoken between characters.

    It is not the Los Angeles Actors Guild, none such exists, it is the Screen Actors Guild, and Coombs has been a member for decades.

    it was something along those lines, it was a long time ago i do remember it was a guild but not alot more than that, besides you seem to know what i meant anyway so thats that. and i do not know if coombs is a member of the guild or not, a current list of actors and actresses would be nice to have.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    ktonof1aq wrote: »
    In rewatching Enterprise I noticed T'pol is often captain of the ship. Not only is she left in charge a lot, sometimes she is the outright Captain while Archer is presumed dead, out with the xindi, etc. I also noticed that T'pol is a HORRIBLE Captain.
    I wouldn't say T'Pol was a terrible captain, she was just different, and approached everything with logic, whereas Archer didn't.
    szim wrote: »
    Weyoun is unlikely since Garak killed his last clone and the cloning facilities where he was stored were destroyed.
    The next game update is all about time travel, so Jeff could easily voice Weyoun or Shran.
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  • kurumimorishitakurumimorishita Member Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    Weyoun is unlikely since Garak killed his last clone and the cloning facilities where he was stored were destroyed. And Combs didn't like playing Brunt at all. Shran would be possible or as has been suggested a completely new character. Having his voice in STO would be a great addition.

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    Weyoun 9 also reappears in Olympus Descending, the Dominion entry in the Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine series. There, it is revealed that Odo specifically reactivated Weyoun so that he would have a familiar face to interact with in the Dominion, and that he is attempting to train the new clone to think for himself rather than blindly follow orders. Weyoun 9 also continues to collect meaningless trinkets in his quarters, just as Weyoun 5 did. Weyoun later appears in the Star Trek: Typhon Pact novel Raise the Dawn, too.
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    captsol wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    gradii wrote: »
    You kidding? Archer was one of the best Captains.

    Archer was such a bad captain that he almost started a damn war over his stupid fleabag DOG for cryin' out loud.

    Hey, man. In the JJ-verse a later dog owned by Archer also got Scotty marooned. Any dog owned by Archer is important. ;)

    Same dog. Porthos is now immortal thanks to Phlox.​​
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    T'Pol is the best captain ever. Who wouldn't make repairing the comm system a priority when the ship is falling apart? xD

    I just loved how she never said anything useful during the battle of Azati prime :p

    Though that may just have been a bad moment for her, and she was suffering from drug addiction at the time. In most other episodes, she was the only one who actually behaved like a true Starfleet officer. Instead of a passenger on a cruise ship.
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