It appears that Agents of Yesterday will not invalidate all my builds, and diminish my enjoyment of playing. So no, I won't love it like I loved (hated!) Delta Rising.
Only if I can play as a Klingon and go back and fight in the Klingon Wars against the Federation, But alas, this is all for the Federation, as it makes you create a Federation character for it. This in and of itself, makes Delta Rising better, as you were not limited to one faction.
the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans
AT LEAST
so lets see how many faction EXCLUSIVE ships, costumes, and missions they get.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive ships.
Romulans gets lots of faction exclusive costumes.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive missions.
he said the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans.
so lets see if they get anywhere NEAR as much faction EXCLUSIVE stuffs as they did
the butthurt is strong with this one. Your definition is not the same one the devs use.
When devs do interviews, they are speaking to the community, not other devs. If a dev is speaking to the community and draws a direct comparison to the Romulan faction, exactly what definition is the community supposed to think they are using?
TOS a new faction? That's stretching the definition of faction. At 60 you're gonna be in the same ships and at the same homeworld as Fed is now, so no.
You mean level 10.
This.
Though according to the devs even tribble only has a very small portion of what's to come.
But considering how hard they try to dodge the question concerning TOS "faction" exclusive content I don't expect any more than what we've seen so far.
Yeeeeah.
If this new faction is to be AT LEAST as much of a faction as the Romulans were, Cryptic still have 20+ TOS exclusive missions to add..
The time frame we have until this releases, not likely.
Lets talk time frame shall we? how long do you think the devs have been working on this, before they told us squat, remember we didnt even know they were working on a romulan expansion till they said something.
Have they shown all their cards yet? maybe but i doubt it, there is a possibility of more free leveling ship missions and what not, but what they are showing us is the Pack , just like they did with LoR and just like DR.
So talking time frame i believe the devs have been working on this for quite a while, remember this is the 50th and anything but full on LoR style faction, could be a complete PR disaster for cryptic and PWE.
the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans
AT LEAST
so lets see how many faction EXCLUSIVE ships, costumes, and missions they get.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive ships.
Romulans gets lots of faction exclusive costumes.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive missions.
he said the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans.
so lets see if they get anywhere NEAR as much faction EXCLUSIVE stuffs as they did
the butthurt is strong with this one. Your definition is not the same one the devs use.
When devs do interviews, they are speaking to the community, not other devs. If a dev is speaking to the community and draws a direct comparison to the Romulan faction, exactly what definition is the community supposed to think they are using?
Their own definitions, not yours or those of the other devs.
the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans
AT LEAST
so lets see how many faction EXCLUSIVE ships, costumes, and missions they get.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive ships.
Romulans gets lots of faction exclusive costumes.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive missions.
he said the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans.
so lets see if they get anywhere NEAR as much faction EXCLUSIVE stuffs as they did
the butthurt is strong with this one. Your definition is not the same one the devs use.
When devs do interviews, they are speaking to the community, not other devs. If a dev is speaking to the community and draws a direct comparison to the Romulan faction, exactly what definition is the community supposed to think they are using?
Their own definitions, not yours or those of the other devs.
so if a dev is using their own personal definition, not what is understood by the community, how is the community supposed to understand what they mean? especially when they won't even clarify themselves?
Only if I can play as a Klingon and go back and fight in the Klingon Wars against the Federation
Has there been anything done in the past 6 years of this game's development that would lead you to believe they were going to do anything like what you want?
Looking back on it I enjoyed most of Delta Rising. I know some people were angry with the delays between missions 55-60 level but I had no issues there.
What killed it was the bloated bags of mostly HP in the advanced queues. This was designed to force upgrade purchases - zen to dil. When that dream finally dies YEARS later I can say that DR was very nice. I enjoyed seeing some old friends.
AOY will fall like the led balloon when TOS fanatics get dumped into the 25th century after 1 hour of gameplay. It's going to make DR look like LOR.
Yeah this burned my TRIBBLE. And not only that, but there are still MANY missions lacking an "Elite"-mode.
I mean, I know it's hard work making AI scripts - but it needs to be done. HP bags is just annoying.
Only if I can play as a Klingon and go back and fight in the Klingon Wars against the Federation
Has there been anything done in the past 6 years of this game's development that would lead you to believe they were going to do anything like what you want?
No because every time they try to the majority of the Federations players TRIBBLE, complain and moan like spoiled, entitled kids, because there's nothing for them. Which in turn causes Cryptic to not do it, because its the easiest way to not have to listen to it.
Well, so far I'm looking forward to what's been announced. Might not be a ton of new missions, but some new ques and new choices for how to build our characters (specializations) and ships (gear sets) will always be welcome.
I'm looking forward to it. It sounds like we'll get some homage to TOS, a new spin on the overall story of 2409-10 via time travel and frankly, I've always thought that Cardassians were boring so I'm glad we didn't get them as a faction. Sorry not sorry.
Only if I can play as a Klingon and go back and fight in the Klingon Wars against the Federation
Has there been anything done in the past 6 years of this game's development that would lead you to believe they were going to do anything like what you want?
No because every time they try to the majority of the Federations players ****, complain and moan like spoiled, entitled kids, because there's nothing for them. Which in turn causes Cryptic to not do it, because its the easiest way to not have to listen to it.
Let's dig a little deeper though. Can we get some examples of when they even tried to do something like you suggested?
Well im 100% sure it is going to be better than DR. But hey i suspec everything would. Better not think about it. If it can compete with LoR remains to be seen. I think it will. Reason is we seem to get a much better distribution of new stuff. Back at the day you either liked Romulans (or had a desperate nukara mark fetish with close to no chance to obtain them) or you got zero new stuff. Now we get plenty of stuff for everybody.
I'm in total TOS nerd mode atm so I really look forward to the new release. My Andorian will rock the show and will be funky as hell.
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TOS a new faction? That's stretching the definition of faction. At 60 you're gonna be in the same ships and at the same homeworld as Fed is now, so no.
It's the first expansion I've spent money on. So it's already the best expansion ever!
Yup...to many blind fool just tossing money at this no effort expansion because of 3 simple letter Tee Ohh Ess...even though this is probably the worst expansion by far when it comes to effort and content...BY FAR!
But hey...it's TOS and it has just about as many ships as it does missions added...but lets just blindly toss our money at the screen...because who cares about quality when I can fly my nostalgic 200 year old ships around.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
Well the TOS captains are a faction. It's called the federation. They have a few exclusive missions, ships, ect. Cryptic probably should have said it differently but I'm failing to see why all the confusion/rage. Are people really expecting to see a fully fledged out 2nd federation faction? Come on, that doesn't make any sense.
the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans
AT LEAST
so lets see how many faction EXCLUSIVE ships, costumes, and missions they get.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive ships.
Romulans gets lots of faction exclusive costumes.
Romulans get lots of faction exclusive missions.
he said the TOS faction is AT LEAST as much of a faction as Romulans.
so lets see if they get anywhere NEAR as much faction EXCLUSIVE stuffs as they did
the butthurt is strong with this one. Your definition is not the same one the devs use.
When devs do interviews, they are speaking to the community, not other devs. If a dev is speaking to the community and draws a direct comparison to the Romulan faction, exactly what definition is the community supposed to think they are using?
Their own definitions, not yours or those of the other devs.
so if a dev is using their own personal definition, not what is understood by the community, how is the community supposed to understand what they mean? especially when they won't even clarify themselves?
Nope, sorry. You are not "the community," you don't get to pick the True Scotsman definition for the rest of us.
I do hope Cryptic has an Ace in the Hole (or 2, or 4, or an entire 52 card deck of Aces) that they're holding back. I'm not seeing how people coming into STO for TOS are going to be satisfied at this point, with getting dropped into the 25th century so early.
The only way I see this one being better, if you can level to 50-60 TOS style. Then jump in bypassing most of the Fed Arcs. With gear at the end that is Fed style and at least Mk 12.
Since I doubt this will happen. I don't think it will be the best one.
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TOS a new faction? That's stretching the definition of faction. At 60 you're gonna be in the same ships and at the same homeworld as Fed is now, so no.
You mean level 10.
This.
Though according to the devs even tribble only has a very small portion of what's to come.
But considering how hard they try to dodge the question concerning TOS "faction" exclusive content I don't expect any more than what we've seen so far.
Yeeeeah.
If this new faction is to be AT LEAST as much of a faction as the Romulans were, Cryptic still have 20+ TOS exclusive missions to add..
The time frame we have until this releases, not likely.
Lets talk time frame shall we? how long do you think the devs have been working on this, before they told us squat, remember we didnt even know they were working on a romulan expansion till they said something.
Have they shown all their cards yet? maybe but i doubt it, there is a possibility of more free leveling ship missions and what not, but what they are showing us is the Pack , just like they did with LoR and just like DR.
So talking time frame i believe the devs have been working on this for quite a while, remember this is the 50th and anything but full on LoR style faction, could be a complete PR disaster for cryptic and PWE.
Yup, I agree.
Judging by comments made by the devs, around 12 months , give or take for this expansion.
This expansion currently barely scratches the surface, compared to what we got with LoR.
Even if Cryptic was to release a new TOS faction specific mission every day (including the weekends) until release, we still wouldn't have the same amount of unique content available to the RR faction.
This doesn't include testing of said missions, nor any more missions that everyone can play.
We might get maybe 3 more missions that everyone can play, or even a couple more TOS unique missions before release, but that will be it. The reality is, that what the new TOS faction has, is likely all it is getting for the foreseeable future....
What the TOS faction also has, is the recruitment event, but that is only happening for a few weeks after release, so cannot really be counted.
I do hope Cryptic has an Ace in the Hole (or 2, or 4, or an entire 52 card deck of Aces) that they're holding back. I'm not seeing how people coming into STO for TOS are going to be satisfied at this point, with getting dropped into the 25th century so early.
That is a silly line of thought because it ignores that
A. Just because you came to STO for a ToS faction doesn't mean you cant enjoy all then on ToS stuff
B. Theres a significant umber of ToS references in the Klingon War arc, not to mention the Devidian arc, and the "Yesterdays War" arc being added in Agents of Yesterday
A. I enjoy all of Star Trek and play all the different parts available in this game and I'm disappointed with how TOS arc ends, unless there is some major content being held back (not a few levels, but entire arcs). If someone has TOS as their favorite, as many coming in from this promotion will, having your character be recorded as dead and shoved into the future after a few levels, I can't imagine them staying. Those that like Star Trek besides TOS and are looking for a MMO game, they've probably already come to this game already if they're PC players.
B. Stuff later on isn't going to matter much if comes after a major shark-jumping moment.
TOS a new faction? That's stretching the definition of faction. At 60 you're gonna be in the same ships and at the same homeworld as Fed is now, so no.
You mean level 10.
This.
Though according to the devs even tribble only has a very small portion of what's to come.
But considering how hard they try to dodge the question concerning TOS "faction" exclusive content I don't expect any more than what we've seen so far.
Yeeeeah.
If this new faction is to be AT LEAST as much of a faction as the Romulans were, Cryptic still have 20+ TOS exclusive missions to add..
The time frame we have until this releases, not likely.
Lets talk time frame shall we? how long do you think the devs have been working on this, before they told us squat, remember we didnt even know they were working on a romulan expansion till they said something.
Have they shown all their cards yet? maybe but i doubt it, there is a possibility of more free leveling ship missions and what not, but what they are showing us is the Pack , just like they did with LoR and just like DR.
So talking time frame i believe the devs have been working on this for quite a while, remember this is the 50th and anything but full on LoR style faction, could be a complete PR disaster for cryptic and PWE.
Yup, I agree.
Judging by comments made by the devs, around 12 months , give or take for this expansion.
This expansion currently barely scratches the surface, compared to what we got with LoR.
Even if Cryptic was to release a new TOS faction specific mission every day (including the weekends) until release, we still wouldn't have the same amount of unique content available to the RR faction.
This doesn't include testing of said missions, nor any more missions that everyone can play.
We might get maybe 3 more missions that everyone can play, or even a couple more TOS unique missions before release, but that will be it. The reality is, that what the new TOS faction has, is likely all it is getting for the foreseeable future....
What the TOS faction also has, is the recruitment event, but that is only happening for a few weeks after release, so cannot really be counted.
Ummm... I think that guy was saying the exact opposite of what you're saying there. He/she's pretty much pointing out that for having developed this for more than a year, we're probably in store for much much more.
New instances/ques? Cool New fully-fleshed out ground-&-Space Specialization? Love it New Renown track with temporal theme? Bring it on. Renown Space set that PERFECT for two of my captains? Fantastic. Renown Ground set that has dual pistols? About damn time. (pun not intended) New missions only available to TOS-Feds? Couldn't care less. The fewer the better. New Missions for everybody? Rock on. The more the better. Possibly an AR-themed lockbox including some version of my all-time favorite Star Trek ship the Nerada? Here's your $200 Cryptic, as promised.
They're about one blog post away from this July being absolutely the best STO expansion ever (IMO) and this player loving it.
Similar to the Romulan Faction? You mean get a bunch of ships, 20+ Missions, a bunch of costumes, and then they forget about you forever more?
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When devs do interviews, they are speaking to the community, not other devs. If a dev is speaking to the community and draws a direct comparison to the Romulan faction, exactly what definition is the community supposed to think they are using?
Lets talk time frame shall we? how long do you think the devs have been working on this, before they told us squat, remember we didnt even know they were working on a romulan expansion till they said something.
Have they shown all their cards yet? maybe but i doubt it, there is a possibility of more free leveling ship missions and what not, but what they are showing us is the Pack , just like they did with LoR and just like DR.
So talking time frame i believe the devs have been working on this for quite a while, remember this is the 50th and anything but full on LoR style faction, could be a complete PR disaster for cryptic and PWE.
My character Tsin'xing
so if a dev is using their own personal definition, not what is understood by the community, how is the community supposed to understand what they mean? especially when they won't even clarify themselves?
My character Tsin'xing
Has there been anything done in the past 6 years of this game's development that would lead you to believe they were going to do anything like what you want?
Yeah this burned my TRIBBLE. And not only that, but there are still MANY missions lacking an "Elite"-mode.
I mean, I know it's hard work making AI scripts - but it needs to be done. HP bags is just annoying.
No because every time they try to the majority of the Federations players TRIBBLE, complain and moan like spoiled, entitled kids, because there's nothing for them. Which in turn causes Cryptic to not do it, because its the easiest way to not have to listen to it.
Let's dig a little deeper though. Can we get some examples of when they even tried to do something like you suggested?
Well im 100% sure it is going to be better than DR. But hey i suspec everything would. Better not think about it. If it can compete with LoR remains to be seen. I think it will. Reason is we seem to get a much better distribution of new stuff. Back at the day you either liked Romulans (or had a desperate nukara mark fetish with close to no chance to obtain them) or you got zero new stuff. Now we get plenty of stuff for everybody.
I'm in total TOS nerd mode atm so I really look forward to the new release. My Andorian will rock the show and will be funky as hell.
@seaofsorrows: Cool sig man and nice ship! First time I have seen it as I'm not loged in via phone but mac book.
Looking for a fun PvE fleet? Join us at Omega Combat Division today.
Shucks...you done beat me to it! lol
Yup...to many blind fool just tossing money at this no effort expansion because of 3 simple letter Tee Ohh Ess...even though this is probably the worst expansion by far when it comes to effort and content...BY FAR!
But hey...it's TOS and it has just about as many ships as it does missions added...but lets just blindly toss our money at the screen...because who cares about quality when I can fly my nostalgic 200 year old ships around.
Don't you mean 200 years from now ships? 2270 is quite some time in the future from today.
Here's a roughly 200 year old ship:
Nope, sorry. You are not "the community," you don't get to pick the True Scotsman definition for the rest of us.
Since I doubt this will happen. I don't think it will be the best one.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Yup, I agree.
Judging by comments made by the devs, around 12 months , give or take for this expansion.
This expansion currently barely scratches the surface, compared to what we got with LoR.
Even if Cryptic was to release a new TOS faction specific mission every day (including the weekends) until release, we still wouldn't have the same amount of unique content available to the RR faction.
This doesn't include testing of said missions, nor any more missions that everyone can play.
We might get maybe 3 more missions that everyone can play, or even a couple more TOS unique missions before release, but that will be it. The reality is, that what the new TOS faction has, is likely all it is getting for the foreseeable future....
What the TOS faction also has, is the recruitment event, but that is only happening for a few weeks after release, so cannot really be counted.
A. I enjoy all of Star Trek and play all the different parts available in this game and I'm disappointed with how TOS arc ends, unless there is some major content being held back (not a few levels, but entire arcs). If someone has TOS as their favorite, as many coming in from this promotion will, having your character be recorded as dead and shoved into the future after a few levels, I can't imagine them staying. Those that like Star Trek besides TOS and are looking for a MMO game, they've probably already come to this game already if they're PC players.
B. Stuff later on isn't going to matter much if comes after a major shark-jumping moment.
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I'm not a gamer playing a Star Trek game, I'm a Star Trek fan who was attracted to the game because of Star Trek, so AOY, really appeals to ME.
Ummm... I think that guy was saying the exact opposite of what you're saying there. He/she's pretty much pointing out that for having developed this for more than a year, we're probably in store for much much more.
New fully-fleshed out ground-&-Space Specialization? Love it
New Renown track with temporal theme? Bring it on.
Renown Space set that PERFECT for two of my captains? Fantastic.
Renown Ground set that has dual pistols? About damn time. (pun not intended)
New missions only available to TOS-Feds? Couldn't care less. The fewer the better.
New Missions for everybody? Rock on. The more the better.
Possibly an AR-themed lockbox including some version of my all-time favorite Star Trek ship the Nerada? Here's your $200 Cryptic, as promised.
They're about one blog post away from this July being absolutely the best STO expansion ever (IMO) and this player loving it.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'