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The new UI sneak peek...

sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
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It looks good for a controller, but please do not force this on PC users!

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    spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    Personally, I don't like it. Hopefully it will be just for consoles or people with touch screen PCs.
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    sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    yes, I hope that we won't have this ui for pc
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    jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    It's completelly understandable that the consoles need different UI & ability to control the game, given their limitations. PC & consoles are way too different and usually when things from consoles are 'ported' onto PC, it actually ends up being limiting factor, rather than a good thing. I have to agree with the OP - let PC users to keep the controls & UI we currently have.
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    dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Honestly, if this "new" UI doesn't hog resources like the "current" AI does (aren't there reports that in some of these "laggy" areas shutting the UI off spikes framerates?) - then I'm all for having it "imported"...

    The primary difference is that us PC users should keep the two boxes of hotbars and their associated keybinds over being forced into the "open - aim - fire" system that doesn't give us a one-glace at power cooldown statuses...
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    equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,277 Arc User
    Fine as long as they don't bring it anywhere near my PC :D
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    dareau wrote: »
    Honestly, if this "new" UI doesn't hog resources like the "current" AI does (aren't there reports that in some of these "laggy" areas shutting the UI off spikes framerates?) - then I'm all for having it "imported"...

    The primary difference is that us PC users should keep the two boxes of hotbars and their associated keybinds over being forced into the "open - aim - fire" system that doesn't give us a one-glace at power cooldown statuses...

    The hotbars and keybinds contribute to the resource hogging doesn't it?

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    alonaralonar Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    This is the one thing that has killed any excitement I had for the new stuff coming, for a pc game this ui interface is just plain hot garbage.
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    saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    Yeah, this is awful. Keep this out of the pc game.
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    shockwave85shockwave85 Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    The UI lag I don't think is because of any particular feature, just that it's old and creaky and has had a lot of stuff shoehorned into it that wasn't originally there. They've been talking about doing an overhaul of the UI backend, and the blog post about console support mentions doing that. Those backend improvements will probably be ported back to the PC version giving us better performance, but I highly doubt they'd foist the console control scheme on us. If anything, it'd be an option for those that would like to use a controller, since the current controller support requires a lot of patience and custom keybinding to really use.

    Anyway, console UI is what I would've expected. Four powers quickly accessible using either the face buttons or D-pad, and access to the remaining powers via a submenu. Workable for a controller, but definitely slower than what we have on the PC with a full keyboard.
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    joel1974joel1974 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    Horrible. Hopefully this stays out of the PC setup.
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    samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Is there a place where the anouncements today are being listed? I checked the German news site and nothing yet...

    Any other tidbits you could give us?
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    jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    Works for the limited controls of the consoles. Which is something to say as a prefered console player myself.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    I share most of the worries in this thread. I hope the PC version isn't punished with those awfull wheel menus and limited to four active powers.​​
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    thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada
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    It's an improvement. Please replace the current button and spacebar UI with this.
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    gabeoz1gabeoz1 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    I'm not a fan of the UI. But I noticed that the shield textures are different vs the ones we have now which is something i'll definitely take.
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    alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,413 Arc User
    OP, thanks for sharing that screen. If a 6 year old PC Game gets turned into a console game, well, unless the gameplay is drastically remodelled, it won't go down well.
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    sadwasp#1751 sadwasp
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    crashdragon wrote: »
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    It looks good for a controller, but please do not force this on PC users!

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    What he said .
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    It looks good for a controller, but please do not force this on PC users!

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    i am not seeing a picture here, just: "CiVijJOWUAAk06v.jpg:large"
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    dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    thekodanarmada#7342 wrote: »
    It's an improvement. Please replace the current button and spacebar UI with this.

    Please, define exactly how attempting to shoehorn 17 "standard T6" abilities (this is just BOff powers and Captain abilities) into a "wheel system" that does not take full advantage of the "real estate" on screen is an "improvement"?

    Personally, if it wasn't for the fact that I don't see the "BOffs / powers / cooldown status" block on this preview, I'm already bemoaning the lack of... information... that this UI provides me.

    Is my grav well off cooldown? Well, since I "unslotted" it to make way for Tac Team, I better activate the "wheel popup" to see... (Kablooey)
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    sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    It looks good for a controller, but please do not force this on PC users!

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    i am not seeing a picture here, just: "CiVijJOWUAAk06v.jpg:large"

    I don't know, I can still see it..
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    kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    joel1974 wrote: »
    Hopefully this stays out of the PC setup.

    Hopefully, it's a checkbox option in the settings menu, so that everyone has the choice to pick what they prefer.

    (I can't see myself using it, but then I don't use a controller much on my PC. But I know that some people do. Or that some people like to play their PC games on a big TV, from a couch, in their living room. Options are nice.)

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    WOW... that takes up A LOT of screen space.

    Even on my 65" widescreen that's gonna look awful.

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    duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,950 Arc User
    alonar wrote: »
    This is the one thing that has killed any excitement I had for the new stuff coming, for a pc game this ui interface is just plain hot garbage.

    A couple of priority one interviews ago (before all the big announcements) cryptic did discuss the upcoming UI revamp (sans console context.) They specifically said it wouldn't change the core functionality. For us it would mostly be back end with some visual tweaks to streamline.

    The difference between then and now is most likely the insertion "for PC players" (using a mouse and keyboard.)
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    kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    daveyny wrote: »
    WOW... that takes up A LOT of screen space.

    Even on my 65" widescreen that's gonna look awful.

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    I imagine the giant wheel only pops up when you hit the button for that BOFF/action bar/whatever, and then disappears when you select a power. (So once the uber controller jockeys get used to it, they'll hit a button and jerk the stick to ~135° before the wheel's even totally appeared, triggering the power & making it go away)

    But just a guess/hope.


    ...hmm. Just four boxes in the corner. Perhaps they just map any powers from Sci/Eng/Tac/Captain onto the four wheels, no matter which setup of boffs you have? So three boffs worth of escort Tac powers on the Tac wheel, and two whole powers from your Lt. Sci on the Sci wheel?
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    kiralyn wrote: »
    joel1974 wrote: »
    Hopefully this stays out of the PC setup.

    Hopefully, it's a checkbox option in the settings menu, so that everyone has the choice to pick what they prefer.

    (I can't see myself using it, but then I don't use a controller much on my PC. But I know that some people do. Or that some people like to play their PC games on a big TV, from a couch, in their living room. Options are nice.)

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    storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,253 Arc User
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    It looks good for a controller, but please do not force this on PC users!

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    johnnyray14#4257 johnnyray14
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    For the PC I'm just hoping for an end to the dang minigame where the buttons in the Low Priority Interaction pane move around when you try to click them.
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    sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    It looks good for a controller, but please do not force this on PC users!

    I'm in complete agreement with @sunfrancks on this one. Please for the love of god and my own personal sanity don't force this UI on us. The "Revamped" duty officer UI is one thing and look how that was received, this one looks even worse. Granted it's needed for the console version, but the current PC one looks just fine.​​
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