I'm a romulan player, and personally i'm not interested at all by all the TOS stuff, first of all I hate the tv show (Kirk is pitiful), and i don't like the aesthetic which is outdated and for a huge part ridiculous. I prefer Cryptic's design.
Claiming that the aesthetic of TOS is outdated sounds rather hypocritical coming from someone whose avatar is Robby the Robot, who predates TOS by a decade, and made his debut in "Forbidden Planet" (one of my all-time favourite movies, BTW), the movie which inspired TOS.
If you don't like TOS, that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it; but don't try to claim that you don't like it because it's outdated, when your own avatar is even MORE outdated.
didnt Robby appear in one episode of TOS trek too? I recall the story about them sharing props with Lost In Space and there in all his glory was robby as a prop against a wall
Just curious as to why you would say that. Do you see a pattern from the developers that points to that? Of course...it would have to be abandoned if there's no buy in from the player base. But it would be criminal to ask over $100 for something and then abandon it soon after it was released.
Just curious as to why you would say that. Do you see a pattern from the developers that points to that? Of course...it would have to be abandoned if there's no buy in from the player base. But it would be criminal to ask over $100 for something and then abandon it soon after it was released.
I believe we can let the content development for the RR and KDF speak for itself here
Just curious as to why you would say that. Do you see a pattern from the developers that points to that? Of course...it would have to be abandoned if there's no buy in from the player base. But it would be criminal to ask over $100 for something and then abandon it soon after it was released.
I believe we can let the content development for the RR and KDF speak for itself here
I see. Just was curious to know where you were pulling that from because...it is a serious concern I have about the investment. This expansion isn't cheap. Thanks for responding, comrade.
Just curious as to why you would say that. Do you see a pattern from the developers that points to that? Of course...it would have to be abandoned if there's no buy in from the player base. But it would be criminal to ask over $100 for something and then abandon it soon after it was released.
I believe we can let the content development for the RR and KDF speak for itself here
I see. Just was curious to know where you were pulling that from because...it is a serious concern I have about the investment. This expansion isn't cheap. Thanks for responding, comrade.
Just for clarity, the AoY Pack isn't the Expansion itself, merely extra ships and such for you to use after it comes out. You can still have a AoY TOS character and go through the entire leveling progress without buying that pack, or even without buying anything at all.
he's right... the expansion is free... the $130 mega pack is just extra goodies...
consider this tho... just the 3 "faction agnostic" ships if you want to use those would be $90... Similarly if you want just say the TOS battlecruiser and the t6version of it so you can use the TOS skin... thats $60
for the $130 you get 12 ships, a couple outfits, and some (ooo ahhh)titles. Its a question of how much of that pack do you intend to use?
I'm a romulan player, and personally i'm not interested at all by all the TOS stuff, first of all I hate the tv show (Kirk is pitiful), and i don't like the aesthetic which is outdated and for a huge part ridiculous. I prefer Cryptic's design.
Claiming that the aesthetic of TOS is outdated sounds rather hypocritical coming from someone whose avatar is Robby the Robot, who predates TOS by a decade, and made his debut in "Forbidden Planet" (one of my all-time favourite movies, BTW), the movie which inspired TOS.
If you don't like TOS, that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it; but don't try to claim that you don't like it because it's outdated, when your own avatar is even MORE outdated.
didnt Robby appear in one episode of TOS trek too? I recall the story about them sharing props with Lost In Space and there in all his glory was robby as a prop against a wall
No, Robby never appeared on Star Trek, although he otherwise ran the gamut from Twilight Zone to Dobie Gillis to the Banana Splits! Versatile robot, our Robby! And the show with whom Trek shared props (or raided each other's dumpsters) was Mission: Impossible.
I'm a romulan player, and personally i'm not interested at all by all the TOS stuff, first of all I hate the tv show (Kirk is pitiful), and i don't like the aesthetic which is outdated and for a huge part ridiculous. I prefer Cryptic's design.
Claiming that the aesthetic of TOS is outdated sounds rather hypocritical coming from someone whose avatar is Robby the Robot, who predates TOS by a decade, and made his debut in "Forbidden Planet" (one of my all-time favourite movies, BTW), the movie which inspired TOS.
If you don't like TOS, that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it; but don't try to claim that you don't like it because it's outdated, when your own avatar is even MORE outdated.
didnt Robby appear in one episode of TOS trek too? I recall the story about them sharing props with Lost In Space and there in all his glory was robby as a prop against a wall
No, Robby never appeared on Star Trek, although he otherwise ran the gamut from Twilight Zone to Dobie Gillis to the Banana Splits! Versatile robot, our Robby! And the show with whom Trek shared props (or raided each other's dumpsters) was Mission: Impossible.
I'm a romulan player, and personally i'm not interested at all by all the TOS stuff, first of all I hate the tv show (Kirk is pitiful), and i don't like the aesthetic which is outdated and for a huge part ridiculous. I prefer Cryptic's design.
Claiming that the aesthetic of TOS is outdated sounds rather hypocritical coming from someone whose avatar is Robby the Robot, who predates TOS by a decade, and made his debut in "Forbidden Planet" (one of my all-time favourite movies, BTW), the movie which inspired TOS.
If you don't like TOS, that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it; but don't try to claim that you don't like it because it's outdated, when your own avatar is even MORE outdated.
didnt Robby appear in one episode of TOS trek too? I recall the story about them sharing props with Lost In Space and there in all his glory was robby as a prop against a wall
No, Robby never appeared on Star Trek, although he otherwise ran the gamut from Twilight Zone to Dobie Gillis to the Banana Splits! Versatile robot, our Robby! And the show with whom Trek shared props (or raided each other's dumpsters) was Mission: Impossible.
not as an active character I know but Im pretty sure he showed up as an inanimate prop on a wall
No, he didn't. He was built by MGM, not Paramount, and was a very expensive piece of hardware, well outside of the week to week TOS budget (especially for use as background décor). Heck, bits and pieces of NOMAD showed up as part of the Romulan cloaking device in The Enterprise Incident, and as part of Flint's robot in Requiem for Methuselah. And those were all featured items, yet were still cannibalized from each other to save money. I'm a great fan of Robby (and, of course of TOS). Seeing the two at once is not something I would forget - the resulting nerdgasm would probably have been fatal. And I will cheerfully wager a bottle of Romulan Ale, 2 Dilithium Crystals and an Isolinear Chip that Robby NEVER appeared in TOS, background or otherwise.
I wish you were right about this, though - having Robby in TOS would have been VERY cool!
I'm a romulan player, and personally i'm not interested at all by all the TOS stuff, first of all I hate the tv show (Kirk is pitiful), and i don't like the aesthetic which is outdated and for a huge part ridiculous. I prefer Cryptic's design.
Claiming that the aesthetic of TOS is outdated sounds rather hypocritical coming from someone whose avatar is Robby the Robot, who predates TOS by a decade, and made his debut in "Forbidden Planet" (one of my all-time favourite movies, BTW), the movie which inspired TOS.
If you don't like TOS, that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it; but don't try to claim that you don't like it because it's outdated, when your own avatar is even MORE outdated.
the year of production is not taken in consideration when i think that TOS is outdated.
actually, i am looking forward too. perhaps i will just create me a TOS fed toon and play through the fed missions for the first time since servers lit up.
but, i am not buying the pack. hoarding dill, to get a ship or two for the right traits when the exchange rates go down once again, or ill pay with cash if something will appeal to me, which is not the case yet. Perhaps, if they added some Vulcan designs?
we'll see, how the gameplay and missions are, what i have seen on tribble seems to be interesting enough.
i am also really looking forward to play without the -40 powercreep, and building a ship on the blue side.
Too bad i will not have access to many traits and consoles as almost all ships i have ever bought were on the red/green side.
But - i love my kdf aligned romulans too much & can't even find my way through the sol spacedock.
(i have one fed aligned romulan toon, and i also didnt have the hearts to delete my toon from the game launch, when you needed a lvl 10 fed to open the kdf gameplay - its still doffing its way to 60, now 54)
For the future, i would really wish they merge all 3 factions - all it takes is to switch the "universe" of toons which reach the final lvl (let it be 65), and let everybody access everything. Ships, Doffs, missions... Plus a new tier of ships with various designs (hu-man inspired, vulcan, ferengi, romulan, reman, klingon, gorn, ...etc, what you have in the UFP now called Temporal Accord). That way we can still play as Romulans, and get new stuff if wanted. Also, it would be nice to have the possibility to change the seating and stats of a T6 ship. Like - you buy a new T7 ship, then add T6 visual if you have previously bought it. (so you would not see a fed in the d'deridex, because he can't buy it - ships till T6 would be faction locked as now).
In these times we are seeing more alien ships flying around than canon ships anyways, so ...
I'll made a Vulcan captain. Whether I take her beyond the expansion storyline is another matter. Most likely I'll just return to my "regular program", unless it's going to be forced like with Delta recruits to get goodies.
I think it wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't know that UFP is basically means humans, and how they see/do things, Even though Starfleet is just the military wing, it's basically all human designed ships.
I think being able to use TOS skins on endgame ships is unique and I love the Perseus among other class ships, so I'm excited, if for this reason only, the missions if they're good, would be straight gravy for me.
I too play KDF and Rommie characters, being able to use the new timeships on them is for me a bonus, especially if they are top notch ships. Here's hopin.
cryptic should learn from what's on their forum's lead page "change is an Essential part of existence" - Spock
and so far there as inflexible as a Vulcan Kolinar master!
CVN-65 U.S.S. Enterprise - A ship so badass it survived John McCain.
actually, i am looking forward too. perhaps i will just create me a TOS fed toon and play through the fed missions for the first time since servers lit up.
but, i am not buying the pack. hoarding dill, to get a ship or two for the right traits when the exchange rates go down once again, or ill pay with cash if something will appeal to me, which is not the case yet. Perhaps, if they added some Vulcan designs?
we'll see, how the gameplay and missions are, what i have seen on tribble seems to be interesting enough.
i am also really looking forward to play without the -40 powercreep, and building a ship on the blue side.
Too bad i will not have access to many traits and consoles as almost all ships i have ever bought were on the red/green side.
But - i love my kdf aligned romulans too much & can't even find my way through the sol spacedock.
(i have one fed aligned romulan toon, and i also didnt have the hearts to delete my toon from the game launch, when you needed a lvl 10 fed to open the kdf gameplay - its still doffing its way to 60, now 54)
For the future, i would really wish they merge all 3 factions - all it takes is to switch the "universe" of toons which reach the final lvl (let it be 65), and let everybody access everything. Ships, Doffs, missions... Plus a new tier of ships with various designs (hu-man inspired, vulcan, ferengi, romulan, reman, klingon, gorn, ...etc, what you have in the UFP now called Temporal Accord). That way we can still play as Romulans, and get new stuff if wanted. Also, it would be nice to have the possibility to change the seating and stats of a T6 ship. Like - you buy a new T7 ship, then add T6 visual if you have previously bought it. (so you would not see a fed in the d'deridex, because he can't buy it - ships till T6 would be faction locked as now).
In these times we are seeing more alien ships flying around than canon ships anyways, so ...
If this is what Cryptic had in mind for the UFP, it'd be fine. Fortunately, this is not what they have in mind.
If this is what Cryptic had in mind for the UFP, it'd be fine. Fortunately, this is not what they have in mind.
What do you think they do have in mind?
The subjugation/destruction of all other cultures, as it has always been about.
The Xindi? Too Militant! The Romulans? Too protective! The Klingons? Too resilient! The Cardassians? Too Proud! The Dominion? Too efficient! The Liberated Borg? Too independent!
With us already fighting the Nak'uhl and Krenim, The Sphere builders are set to become the big bad antagonists behind them orchestrating this whole thing, much like the Iconians were leading the Tal Shiar, Elachi, Bluegills etc. Now we already know how the Sphere builders were defeated-by a Federation fleet in the future that included the Klingons. Now a recent episode revealed that both the Klingons and the Romulans are future members of the Federation, which shows that the devs remembered that episode, however the addition of the Romulans is a bit worrying-the future that Capt Archer saw did not explicitly include the Romulans as part of the Federation. The fact that Cryptic saw fit to add them into it, the upcoming release of crossfaction starfleet ships along with the apparent approach of the battle of Procyon 5 where the Klingons are 'doomed' to become part of the federation (and presumably us as well) does not seem to spell a bright future for fans of non-federation factions.
To say that I'm not terribly thrilled with the possibility of the Romulans becoming even less of a faction than they already are would be a great understatement. I have criticized the Republic faction in the past of being 'fed-lite', so them loosing even that distinction isn't something I look forward to with any great degree of enthusiasm.
With us already fighting the Nak'uhl and Krenim, The Sphere builders are set to become the big bad antagonists behind them orchestrating this whole thing, much like the Iconians were leading the Tal Shiar, Elachi, Bluegills etc. Now we already know how the Sphere builders were defeated-by a Federation fleet in the future that included the Klingons. Now a recent episode revealed that both the Klingons and the Romulans are future members of the Federation, which shows that the devs remembered that episode, however the addition of the Romulans is a bit worrying-the future that Capt Archer saw did not explicitly include the Romulans as part of the Federation. The fact that Cryptic saw fit to add them into it, the upcoming release of crossfaction starfleet ships along with the apparent approach of the battle of Procyon 5 where the Klingons are 'doomed' to become part of the federation (and presumably us as well) does not seem to spell a bright future for fans of non-federation factions.
To say that I'm not terribly thrilled with the possibility of the Romulans becoming even less of a faction than they already are would be a great understatement. I have criticized the Republic faction in the past of being 'fed-lite', so them loosing even that distinction isn't something I look forward to with any great degree of enthusiasm.
Minus a CBS godhammer, that's what Cryptic is doing, and again, I point to the actions of cryptic over the last six years, their documented difficulty with supporting multi-faction play in ANY of their games, and the statements of bias you can find just surfing through the various communications from every current member of the development staff, but especially the Lead Developer, who felt 'Forced' to make faction specific material before they 'ended the Klingon/federation war" and was relieved he would not be forced to work on anything but Federation material now that that has been ended.
IOW, how could any of this come to you as a surprise? Observe the tank fulla sharks, observe, cryptic's warming up the motorcycle for another go.
it's like watching the train derail-you can't look away, but it's sickening at the same time. Good writing can cover a multitude of sins, but we're not getting good writing-we're getting fanwank that would embarrass fanfiction.net slash junkies.
and we're getting that, because this staff doesn't have the ability to deliver the known outcome in a way that doesn't require as stacked deus ex machinae that violates everything established about the factions and characters-that doesn't violate the internal logic of the setting.
Romulans not acting like Romulans? hey, that's alright, we'll give them lots of powerful stuff and feed their leaders idiot pills while handing them the idiot ball-except for Romulan Jesus (D'Tan), and as a bonus, the players get a subtle reminder that it's really Tovan Khev's story, not theirs, that they're playing.
Klingons not acting like Klingons? well, duh-if Klingons act like Klingons, then the whole 'assimilation into the Federation Collective" doesn't work, we'll dumb them down in every way possible, even violate our own story writing, to make it feasible for them to be absorbed, while we also strip them of everything that makes the faction unique and give it to the Federation in an improved form, because hey, they're not the majority, right?
From Cadet to Fleet Admiral in eighteen months, ten wars in the space of two years, build a whole new ESD in a couple weeks...yeah, sure, whatever.
How about if we just race right to the end of the universe so we can...what??
Here, just grind for another token to buy a shiny so you can be totally irrelevant in this single-player-third-person-shooter-with-a-couple-coop maps. Don't forget to move your slider from right to left.
They've effectively exhausted fifty years of source material in six years of chasing mediocrity.
the real **** of it is, Star Trek fans are so starved for options that Cryptic's making money off this turkey.
you're also forgetting Gecko is on record as ending the fed-kdf war so they were no longer "forced" to do multi-faction content and was relieved that they were no longer being "forced" to do it. They CAN do quality, they HAVE done quality. They CHOOSE not to.
you're also forgetting Gecko is on record as ending the fed-kdf war so they were no longer "forced" to do multi-faction content and was relieved that they were no longer being "forced" to do it. They CAN do quality, they HAVE done quality. They CHOOSE not to.
Aye. I understand that Feds are going to get more, but the list of have v. have-not, has grown to such an extent, that it no longer matches the metrics. Between bugs, missing uniforms/uniform pieces, unused/underused content, and missing ship roles (esp. endgame Sci for RR & KE forces).
I'm used to UFP players getting gold, while RR/KE get finished wood, but after AoY, I suspect there will be some flimsy excuse to replace said wood, with bits of string.
I'm used to seeing metric based decisions, now I am starting to see blanant disregard. Hopefully I will be convinced otherwise, when this time travel business, is all over.
I waited until Klingons were playable at level 1 to buy the lifetime sunscription. I could see myself switching to playing Fed when AoY launches. I realize that this makes me a part of the problem, but it's the path of least resistance to go where the content and ships are.
The lack of science ships for both KDF and Republic is the only reason why I play my FED science character. But the truth is when ever I jump into my Rom character, I enjoy the gameplay more than when am playing FED character. It like playing Fantasy game and than choose to play human, am human and I know everything that there is be human, but the other races, yes that what get my blood boiling with excitement. We are be denied that in this game all because the lead likes Federation more than others.
"You ask why we give our ships computer normal emotions. Do you really want a warship incapable of loyalty?"
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didnt Robby appear in one episode of TOS trek too? I recall the story about them sharing props with Lost In Space and there in all his glory was robby as a prop against a wall
Just curious as to why you would say that. Do you see a pattern from the developers that points to that? Of course...it would have to be abandoned if there's no buy in from the player base. But it would be criminal to ask over $100 for something and then abandon it soon after it was released.
I believe we can let the content development for the RR and KDF speak for itself here
I see. Just was curious to know where you were pulling that from because...it is a serious concern I have about the investment. This expansion isn't cheap. Thanks for responding, comrade.
Just for clarity, the AoY Pack isn't the Expansion itself, merely extra ships and such for you to use after it comes out. You can still have a AoY TOS character and go through the entire leveling progress without buying that pack, or even without buying anything at all.
consider this tho... just the 3 "faction agnostic" ships if you want to use those would be $90... Similarly if you want just say the TOS battlecruiser and the t6version of it so you can use the TOS skin... thats $60
for the $130 you get 12 ships, a couple outfits, and some (ooo ahhh)titles. Its a question of how much of that pack do you intend to use?
No, Robby never appeared on Star Trek, although he otherwise ran the gamut from Twilight Zone to Dobie Gillis to the Banana Splits! Versatile robot, our Robby! And the show with whom Trek shared props (or raided each other's dumpsters) was Mission: Impossible.
Here's a link to Robby's credits at IMDB.
not as an active character I know but Im pretty sure he showed up as an inanimate prop on a wall
No, he didn't. He was built by MGM, not Paramount, and was a very expensive piece of hardware, well outside of the week to week TOS budget (especially for use as background décor). Heck, bits and pieces of NOMAD showed up as part of the Romulan cloaking device in The Enterprise Incident, and as part of Flint's robot in Requiem for Methuselah. And those were all featured items, yet were still cannibalized from each other to save money. I'm a great fan of Robby (and, of course of TOS). Seeing the two at once is not something I would forget - the resulting nerdgasm would probably have been fatal. And I will cheerfully wager a bottle of Romulan Ale, 2 Dilithium Crystals and an Isolinear Chip that Robby NEVER appeared in TOS, background or otherwise.
I wish you were right about this, though - having Robby in TOS would have been VERY cool!
the year of production is not taken in consideration when i think that TOS is outdated.
but, i am not buying the pack. hoarding dill, to get a ship or two for the right traits when the exchange rates go down once again, or ill pay with cash if something will appeal to me, which is not the case yet.
Perhaps, if they added some Vulcan designs?
we'll see, how the gameplay and missions are, what i have seen on tribble seems to be interesting enough.
i am also really looking forward to play without the -40 powercreep, and building a ship on the blue side.
Too bad i will not have access to many traits and consoles as almost all ships i have ever bought were on the red/green side.
But - i love my kdf aligned romulans too much & can't even find my way through the sol spacedock.
(i have one fed aligned romulan toon, and i also didnt have the hearts to delete my toon from the game launch, when you needed a lvl 10 fed to open the kdf gameplay - its still doffing its way to 60, now 54)
For the future, i would really wish they merge all 3 factions - all it takes is to switch the "universe" of toons which reach the final lvl (let it be 65), and let everybody access everything. Ships, Doffs, missions... Plus a new tier of ships with various designs (hu-man inspired, vulcan, ferengi, romulan, reman, klingon, gorn, ...etc, what you have in the UFP now called Temporal Accord). That way we can still play as Romulans, and get new stuff if wanted. Also, it would be nice to have the possibility to change the seating and stats of a T6 ship. Like - you buy a new T7 ship, then add T6 visual if you have previously bought it. (so you would not see a fed in the d'deridex, because he can't buy it - ships till T6 would be faction locked as now).
In these times we are seeing more alien ships flying around than canon ships anyways, so ...
I think being able to use TOS skins on endgame ships is unique and I love the Perseus among other class ships, so I'm excited, if for this reason only, the missions if they're good, would be straight gravy for me.
I too play KDF and Rommie characters, being able to use the new timeships on them is for me a bonus, especially if they are top notch ships. Here's hopin.
I would LOVE this myself.
and so far there as inflexible as a Vulcan Kolinar master!
If this is what Cryptic had in mind for the UFP, it'd be fine. Fortunately, this is not what they have in mind.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
What do you think they do have in mind?
The subjugation/destruction of all other cultures, as it has always been about.
The Xindi? Too Militant! The Romulans? Too protective! The Klingons? Too resilient! The Cardassians? Too Proud! The Dominion? Too efficient! The Liberated Borg? Too independent!
Notice a pattern?
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
To say that I'm not terribly thrilled with the possibility of the Romulans becoming even less of a faction than they already are would be a great understatement. I have criticized the Republic faction in the past of being 'fed-lite', so them loosing even that distinction isn't something I look forward to with any great degree of enthusiasm.
*applauds for 30 minutes*
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Aye. I understand that Feds are going to get more, but the list of have v. have-not, has grown to such an extent, that it no longer matches the metrics. Between bugs, missing uniforms/uniform pieces, unused/underused content, and missing ship roles (esp. endgame Sci for RR & KE forces).
I'm used to UFP players getting gold, while RR/KE get finished wood, but after AoY, I suspect there will be some flimsy excuse to replace said wood, with bits of string.
I'm used to seeing metric based decisions, now I am starting to see blanant disregard. Hopefully I will be convinced otherwise, when this time travel business, is all over.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png