Here's a funny (true) story about how I have seen the devs pay attention to us:
Not too long ago, I took 6 months off from the game. Before I ended up doing so, I (wrongly) posted a pretty derogatory post about Geko (some of you may remember it). I left the game, and didn't think anything of it.
Over three months later(!), I got an email from PWE. Know what it was? A warning for my post. So the mods don't even listen to what we have to say, let alone the developers. Says a lot...
This actually seems worse than our usual treatment. They're scarcely even acknowledging our existence at this point. It's like they're just pretending like there are no KDF/Rom factions, so they needn't be addressed or acknowledged at all.
yeah about that. they have never released a full spec ship after the first pack. sure we may get a limited amount of seating on a ship or two but whatever the big thing is, if we don't get it on release we will not see it.
I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Both the KDF and Romulans got full spec Command and Pilot ships when those were released. They have full spec ships for each primary. They'll get full spec ships for the new Temporal Operative primary, even if they only get one ship each like they did with Intel
yeah about that. they have never released a full spec ship after the first pack. sure we may get a limited amount of seating on a ship or two but whatever the big thing is, if we don't get it on release we will not see it.
I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Both the KDF and Romulans got full spec Command and Pilot ships when those were released. They have full spec ships for each primary. They'll get full spec ships for the new Temporal Operative primary, even if they only get one ship each like they did with Intel
show me one.
and those were with the feds ships. as in released at the same time with a choice to buy them with the fed ships even. not later. and in less they do some the never do and add some none fed ships later there are none in the temporal packs.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Cryptic hates the KDF and all but lets just say to be saying that the TOS faction is their own faction like the Romulans and the ships in these pack is met only for them with current era Starfleet/KDF/Republic
But hey, it's easier to panic, pout, and gloom then it is to wait, see, and try to think something is not a temporal (the new replacement for Iconian) plot
Cryptic hates the KDF and all but lets just say to be saying that the TOS faction is their own faction like the Romulans and the ships in these pack is met only for them with current era Starfleet/KDF/Republic
But hey, it's easier to panic, pout, and gloom then it is to wait, see, and try to think something is not a temporal (the new replacement for Iconian) plot
Look, it's another one who failed to actually read the announcement.
You do know that the stuff they're hawking is for the new "faction" AND for all FEDs on that account, right?
You do know that in order to get the account wide bonuses, you have to start a new TOS Federation captain, right?
You do know that It took us over a year after DR to get a broken BoP, and now there will be 2 available for FEDs, right?
Hey, I guess it's easier to blindly follow the devs than it is to read, comprehend, and try to make up your own mind.
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Imagine that. All for feds and tos. KDF/ROM are "SOL" I guess.
Cryptic hates the KDF and all but lets just say to be saying that the TOS faction is their own faction like the Romulans and the ships in these pack is met only for them with current era Starfleet/KDF/Republic
But hey, it's easier to panic, pout, and gloom then it is to wait, see, and try to think something is not a temporal (the new replacement for Iconian) plot
Look, it's another one who failed to actually read the announcement.
You do know that the stuff they're hawking is for the new "faction" AND for all FEDs on that account, right?
You do know that in order to get the account wide bonuses, you have to start a new TOS Federation captain, right?
You do know that It took us over a year after DR to get a broken BoP, and now there will be 2 available for FEDs, right?
Hey, I guess it's easier to blindly follow the devs than it is to read, comprehend, and try to make up your own mind.
Everything but the ships but I will eat my hat if you can show me a screenshot that says the SHIPS are for Starfleet and TOS faction. Lets see if we can quickly get a final answer on this.
@pwlaughingtrendy Could you poke the proper dev and give an answer to this. Is Temporal Ships usable by TOS Starfleet and Current Starfleet
Everything but the ships but I will eat my hat if you can show me a screenshot that says the SHIPS are for Starfleet and TOS faction. Lets see if we can quickly get a final answer on this.
@pwlaughingtrendy Could you poke the proper dev and give an answer to this. Is Temporal Ships usable by TOS Starfleet and Current Starfleet
Seriously??? You have to ask if $130 package will be or won't be usable by the main characters???
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Everything but the ships but I will eat my hat if you can show me a screenshot that says the SHIPS are for Starfleet and TOS faction. Lets see if we can quickly get a final answer on this.
@pwlaughingtrendy Could you poke the proper dev and give an answer to this. Is Temporal Ships usable by TOS Starfleet and Current Starfleet
Seriously??? You have to ask if $130 package will be or won't be usable by the main characters???
How much did the Romulan pack cost? How could only use the pack?
I'm going to let history guide my thinking and not my paranoid. I want to save that for things better than a game.
Heh. Nice of the devs/PR department to forget to mention it, but the T6 Temporal Multi-Mission Science Vessel Eternal Class and T6 Temporal Raider Ouroboros Class are "faction agnostic" according to the Art Director, which I'm tentatively taking as meaning claimable on KDF and Roms, though I suppose it might mean just the design is supposed to not look like any faction ships.
I'm holding out hope that the Eternal and Ouroboros will be cross faction, like the Paradox is.
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This are Galactic Union Ships so hopefully will be Cross Faction.
yeah about that. they have never released a full spec ship after the first pack. sure we may get a limited amount of seating on a ship or two but whatever the big thing is, if we don't get it on release we will not see it.
I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Both the KDF and Romulans got full spec Command and Pilot ships when those were released. They have full spec ships for each primary. They'll get full spec ships for the new Temporal Operative primary, even if they only get one ship each like they did with Intel
Command and Pilots all had 3 per faction variants, which was great. Intel however was tied to Delta Rising season release iirc, and with it Feds also got way more Intel ships than the KDF/RR did, and it remains the case.
This expansion is travelling along the same lines as Delta really. I cannot see KDF/RR getting anything more than 2 faction specific ships atm. This is ignoring the confirmed cross faction Eternal and Ouroboros mentioned above.
So KDF probably won't be getting a BoP as the Ouroboros is already a raider.
We won't get a faction specific sci vessel because the Eternal covers that too.
imo, there's high chances of a battle cruiser for KDF and an escort for RR only because those ship types seem to suit those factions best out of what remains.
Good news on the faction-agnostic ships, although I'll be interested to see how that works in practice. Will it be a single purchase which can be accessed across factions? Or will you have to buy multiple versions?
Anyway, I will take some consolation that the many eras of the Empire are already playable in game:
Cryptic hates the KDF and all but lets just say to be saying that the TOS faction is their own faction like the Romulans and the ships in these pack is met only for them with current era Starfleet/KDF/Republic
But hey, it's easier to panic, pout, and gloom then it is to wait, see, and try to think something is not a temporal (the new replacement for Iconian) plot
Everything but the ships but I will eat my hat if you can show me a screenshot that says the SHIPS are for Starfleet and TOS faction. Lets see if we can quickly get a final answer on this.
Like I said in my previous post in this thread, it's still way too early to pass a final judgement on this as there is probably a butt-load of additional information to be released before this next expansion hits.
However, I just want to clarify a couple of things for the sake of information - those ships that are in the packs, at least most of them, are indeed for the Federation faction. The fact is that SalamiInferno confirmed that all of the T6 ships that have their low tier TOS counterparts will be able to use the TOS skins within the game (I'm too lazy to be bothered to look for and repost the tweet atm, but you can look at just about any thread in 'General Discussion' and find it) - therefore they're obviously for the Federation players.
Now there is this notion that @tom61sto mentioned, and it's from him I'm hearing it for the first time, of the last 2 ships (future ones) in the bigger pack being faction agnostic, so there is that.....and as a primarily KDF player, I have this to say on that notion - it's better for them and us both to just shut down the KDF and RR factions and stop pretending they have a multi-faction game. Just publicly admit that they lack the will, motivation, resources and/or manpower to maintain a multi-faction game and be done with it. This faction-agnostic TRIBBLE just makes me hurl. I'd rather they kill the faction than make a complete mockery out of it.
One last note at the end - take everything I said here with a grain of salt as there is still much info to come to us, so my impressions on this particular topic are subject to change. What I'm discussing here is the first impressions I get from yesterday's announcement and the info we have at our disposal.
and those were with the feds ships. as in released at the same time with a choice to buy them with the fed ships even. not later. and in less they do some the never do and add some none fed ships later there are none in the temporal packs.
I'm still not sure what you're talking about. The Qib and Faeht being released in the DR pack still doesn't change the fact that they're full intel ships and that every faction has access to at least one ship for every primary specialization.
Are you referring to the fact that they don't release full spec ships after the initial wave? Because yeah, that's a crappy habit they got into. And with the Ouroboros and Eternity apparently being cross-faction ships, then we're probably not going to get any more full temporal operative ships. And that kind of sucks, because I'd prefer ships that match the Klingon and Romulan aesthetics and come with all of the cloaking and singularity gubbins that ships of those factions should have.
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Not too long ago, I took 6 months off from the game. Before I ended up doing so, I (wrongly) posted a pretty derogatory post about Geko (some of you may remember it). I left the game, and didn't think anything of it.
Over three months later(!), I got an email from PWE. Know what it was? A warning for my post. So the mods don't even listen to what we have to say, let alone the developers. Says a lot...
show me one.
and those were with the feds ships. as in released at the same time with a choice to buy them with the fed ships even. not later. and in less they do some the never do and add some none fed ships later there are none in the temporal packs.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
But hey, it's easier to panic, pout, and gloom then it is to wait, see, and try to think something is not a temporal (the new replacement for Iconian) plot
Look, it's another one who failed to actually read the announcement.
You do know that the stuff they're hawking is for the new "faction" AND for all FEDs on that account, right?
You do know that in order to get the account wide bonuses, you have to start a new TOS Federation captain, right?
You do know that It took us over a year after DR to get a broken BoP, and now there will be 2 available for FEDs, right?
Hey, I guess it's easier to blindly follow the devs than it is to read, comprehend, and try to make up your own mind.
Imagine that. All for feds and tos. KDF/ROM are "SOL" I guess.
Everything but the ships but I will eat my hat if you can show me a screenshot that says the SHIPS are for Starfleet and TOS faction. Lets see if we can quickly get a final answer on this.
@pwlaughingtrendy Could you poke the proper dev and give an answer to this. Is Temporal Ships usable by TOS Starfleet and Current Starfleet
Seriously??? You have to ask if $130 package will be or won't be usable by the main characters???
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
How much did the Romulan pack cost? How could only use the pack?
I'm going to let history guide my thinking and not my paranoid. I want to save that for things better than a game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4i0k7w/agents_of_yesterday_album_of_new_ships/d2ujits?context=3
This has been confirmed:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4i0k7w/agents_of_yesterday_album_of_new_ships/d2ujits?context=3
Command and Pilots all had 3 per faction variants, which was great. Intel however was tied to Delta Rising season release iirc, and with it Feds also got way more Intel ships than the KDF/RR did, and it remains the case.
This expansion is travelling along the same lines as Delta really. I cannot see KDF/RR getting anything more than 2 faction specific ships atm. This is ignoring the confirmed cross faction Eternal and Ouroboros mentioned above.
So KDF probably won't be getting a BoP as the Ouroboros is already a raider.
We won't get a faction specific sci vessel because the Eternal covers that too.
imo, there's high chances of a battle cruiser for KDF and an escort for RR only because those ship types seem to suit those factions best out of what remains.
Anyway, I will take some consolation that the many eras of the Empire are already playable in game:
Like I said in my previous post in this thread, it's still way too early to pass a final judgement on this as there is probably a butt-load of additional information to be released before this next expansion hits.
However, I just want to clarify a couple of things for the sake of information - those ships that are in the packs, at least most of them, are indeed for the Federation faction. The fact is that SalamiInferno confirmed that all of the T6 ships that have their low tier TOS counterparts will be able to use the TOS skins within the game (I'm too lazy to be bothered to look for and repost the tweet atm, but you can look at just about any thread in 'General Discussion' and find it) - therefore they're obviously for the Federation players.
Now there is this notion that @tom61sto mentioned, and it's from him I'm hearing it for the first time, of the last 2 ships (future ones) in the bigger pack being faction agnostic, so there is that.....and as a primarily KDF player, I have this to say on that notion - it's better for them and us both to just shut down the KDF and RR factions and stop pretending they have a multi-faction game. Just publicly admit that they lack the will, motivation, resources and/or manpower to maintain a multi-faction game and be done with it. This faction-agnostic TRIBBLE just makes me hurl. I'd rather they kill the faction than make a complete mockery out of it.
One last note at the end - take everything I said here with a grain of salt as there is still much info to come to us, so my impressions on this particular topic are subject to change. What I'm discussing here is the first impressions I get from yesterday's announcement and the info we have at our disposal.
Are you referring to the fact that they don't release full spec ships after the initial wave? Because yeah, that's a crappy habit they got into. And with the Ouroboros and Eternity apparently being cross-faction ships, then we're probably not going to get any more full temporal operative ships. And that kind of sucks, because I'd prefer ships that match the Klingon and Romulan aesthetics and come with all of the cloaking and singularity gubbins that ships of those factions should have.