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So ... we actually got scammed

borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
in Feature Episodes, Events and PvE Content
Things look pretty simple to me:
From universal anniversary commendations we now got yearly specific ones.
Why is this a scam ?
Because players used to have some stock of anniversary commendations from previous years just in case they can't fully participate in the specific period of next year. Well, now those are not usable for their main purpose and we stocked them for nothing (and no, being tradeable of junk like skill points doesn't do).
This is the first year that I couldn't be in for the event and now I find myself in the impossibility of getting the event ship since from what I understand the event is near the end.

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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    if that ship is of such importance to you, you should have cleared your schedule accordingly, sorry. Also, you better check up on the definition of "scam"
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  • borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    Taking the value from fairly earned tokens is the pure definition of scam.

    It's like saying starting tomorrow you can only buy toilet paper with the cash dollar.
  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    stock commendations = r&d material = ec ,lots of it.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    Taking the value from fairly earned tokens is the pure definition of scam.

    It's like saying starting tomorrow you can only buy toilet paper with the cash dollar.

    Without rehashing the entire original spiels over and over...

    I don't remember the tokens earned in 2013 or 2014 ever being advertised as applying to 2015, 2016, etc.

    Secondly, this was the third overall event of the three "get a free ship for grinding" events that wouldn't allow older tokens or carryover from year to year. You should have been... at least aware... of the situation going in...

    Thirdly, wasn't the forums aflame a week or two before the event started with yet another round of "omg, buyback store"?

    With at least these points (and the "windows" of advertising), one would have thought that "appropriate schedule clearing" would be... undertaken... if the ship(s) are truly desired...

    Finally, isn't the lobi option still available? Or are they still closing it down within a month of the event's end...?
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • artanisenartanisen Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    The Questions that are constantly ask and go unanswered.
    And i wonder why where they against it in the first place.
    leaves me confused and angry why they hate the community
    so much when it comes to events.
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  • borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    Actually, they break their own ToS by doing what they did.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    garaks31 wrote: »
    stock commendations = r&d material = ec ,lots of it.

    The buyback store is going away, though. It's not permanent. In the future you can't do that anymore, superflous tokens will probably just vanish or remain vanity items in your inventory.
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    Actually, they break their own ToS by doing what they did.

    No, they didn't. Get over it.​​
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    Taking the value from fairly earned tokens is the pure definition of scam.

    It's like saying starting tomorrow you can only buy toilet paper with the cash dollar.

    Cryptic did off players the ability to exchange tokens for crafting material or specialization points for a limited period of time.
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    Actually, they break their own ToS by doing what they did.

    No, they did not. Here is a link to the ToS.

    http://store.steampowered.com/eula/9900_eula_0


    The important clauses you need to read are as follows:
    3. Changes to Agreement. PWE may amend or modify this Agreement (and the Terms of Service and any other related agreements or terms) at any time in our sole discretion. Amendments and modifications will be effective immediately after publishing them on the Website or otherwise providing you a copy thereof, and you waive any right you may have to receive specific notice of such changes or modifications. We will indicate at the top of this Agreement the date it was last updated. You agree to and are responsible for checking this Agreement periodically so you will be familiar with its contents, as it may be amended or modified from time to time. By continuing to use the Software, you are signifying your acceptance of any revised or updated terms. If you do not agree to the amended terms, you must stop using the Software.

    5. Disclaimers and Consents.
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    (c) You understand and agree that PWE may update, enhance or otherwise modify in any manner the Games, the Software and/or the Service at any time without notice.
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
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  • borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    @jaguarskx what's got steam got to do with anything ?
  • comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2016
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    @jaguarskx what's got steam got to do with anything ?

    didn't read the bottom part???
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    @jaguarskx what's got steam got to do with anything ?

    The link I provided leads to PWE's ToS that is published on Steam. All game downloadable from Steam also have links to the publishers ToS.

    If you click the link you will see the following at the very top of the page:

    <center>PERFECT WORLD ENTERTAINMENT
    SOFTWARE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
    Date of Last Revision: March 13, 2012</center>

    This End User License Agreement ("Agreement") is a contract between you and Perfect World Entertainment, Inc. ("PWE," "we" or "us") for all software provided by PWE in connection with the Games and the Service (both as defined below) together with all updates, patches, supplements and replacements provided by PWE and all applicable documentation (collectively the "Software").

    PLEASE READ THIS AGREEMENT CAREFULLY. IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT TERMS THAT AFFECT YOU AND YOUR USE OF THE SOFTWARE. BY CLICKING "I ACCEPT" OR BY INSTALLING, COPYING OR USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND THE RELATED TERMS OF SERVICE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE TERMS AND THE TERMS OF SERVICE, DO NOT INSTALL, COPY, OR USE THE SOFTWARE.
  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    baudl wrote: »
    if that ship is of such importance to you, you should have cleared your schedule accordingly, sorry. Also, you better check up on the definition of "scam"

    Well when you lose 3 days because Q keeps sending you to a bugged Wolf 359 system it gets really annoying. The first anniversary event was much better. You only had to run the mission once to get the ship. Why should have to "work" for a gift?:)
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  • o0kami87o0kami87 Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    Trygvar13, it is not just a gift, it is a reward for being active in the game. Just speculating here but I believe the purpose of the so-called grind to achieve ships is to keep the players that are collectors in the game the longer you were in the game the hearts chance you are buying something. Yes Star Trek Online is a fun game but when it comes right down to it it is owned by a business and a business must make money in order to keep the game going they have to keep you playing. However, ewe does understand that life gets in the way at times and that's why they give you about twice the time you would need to collect the ship on a daily basis to get done
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    Things look pretty simple to me:
    From universal anniversary commendations we now got yearly specific ones.
    Why is this a scam ?
    Because players used to have some stock of anniversary commendations from previous years just in case they can't fully participate in the specific period of next year. Well, now those are not usable for their main purpose and we stocked them for nothing (and no, being tradeable of junk like skill points doesn't do).
    This is the first year that I couldn't be in for the event and now I find myself in the impossibility of getting the event ship since from what I understand the event is near the end.

    This is a special kind of stupid, let me make sure I dumb it down for you OP, what you wrote is stupid, not what Cryptic changed. Which they changed over a year ago.
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    *facepalm* Necromancy is bad. Bad. BAD!
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