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Romulan Ship Neglect

gholendhorgholendhor Member Posts: 447 Arc User
edited February 2016 in Romulan Discussion
Was looking through the ships for sale and noticed the Romulans don't have any ship variants that you can buy with fleet credits.The Federation have the Odyssey and the Aquarius,and the Klingons have the K'T'Inga Battle Cruiser Retrofit,Bortas Heavy Battle Cruiser,The Somraw Raptor Retofit,and the Hoh'Sus Bird of Prey.Maybe it's time to add a few ships for the Romulans.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    gholendhor wrote: »
    Was looking through the ships for sale and noticed the Romulans don't have any ship variants that you can buy with fleet credits.The Federation have the Odyssey and the Aquarius,and the Klingons have the K'T'Inga Battle Cruiser Retrofit,Bortas Heavy Battle Cruiser,The Somraw Raptor Retofit,and the Hoh'Sus Bird of Prey.Maybe it's time to add a few ships for the Romulans.

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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    They don't have them because there's already a T5/6 dil & zen version for absolutely every romulan ship.

    All the 200k FC ships are character only, non-upgradeable, non fleet discount unlocking, t5 refits from lower tiers which never had a higher tier counterpart unlike the akira, gal, excel, etc.
    Exceptions being the event ody, bort and obelisk since they do have proper endgame counterparts.

  • lordonightmareslordonightmares Member Posts: 1 New User
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.
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  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    an upgrade to the Ha'nom wouldn't suffice though. Infact, the whole Ha'nom/Ha'feth thing was a bit silly, given the amount of Tac ships roms already have. They're ok as a seperated Tara, but not as individual ships. No, if they're going to give us a T6 Romulan Science Ship, then make it something new and unique.
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  • laneweshlanewesh Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    we could have a new version based on the superhawk XD

    http://fasaststcs.com/index.php/thefleets/romulan-star-empire/v-50-superhawk-class-x-command-cruiser/
  • skylarcometskylarcomet Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    lanewesh wrote: »
    we could have a new version based on the superhawk XD

    http://fasaststcs.com/index.php/thefleets/romulan-star-empire/v-50-superhawk-class-x-command-cruiser/

    Maybe? I really would prefer a new design of some sort, the Romulan Republic should be designing their own new ships, though I suppose some design ideas could come from past ships. They are still Romulan's, but as a people trying to break away from what the empire was, I would think they would want their ships to have something different about them, so when one saw a Republic warbird they knew it was a Republic and not an RSE ship.
    >:)ruff, meow, moo, whatever.... *shrug*
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    "Pick" sounds optimistic, consider that there's just 1 default bridge, and that's all. ;)​​
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    skylarcomet wrote: »
    lanewesh wrote: »
    we could have a new version based on the superhawk XD

    http://fasaststcs.com/index.php/thefleets/romulan-star-empire/v-50-superhawk-class-x-command-cruiser/

    Maybe? I really would prefer a new design of some sort, the Romulan Republic should be designing their own new ships, though I suppose some design ideas could come from past ships. They are still Romulan's, but as a people trying to break away from what the empire was, I would think they would want their ships to have something different about them, so when one saw a Republic warbird they knew it was a Republic and not an RSE ship.

    We are Romulans, we still march beneath the raptor's wings. Republican propaganda still uses this, hell the symbol is an ascendant raptor in the vein of a Phoenix's rebirth. Ship design will continue to follow that theme as well, its been with us for centuries, and remember we age like Vulcans, many Romulans remember the good and the bad of the Star Empire. Hell some still remember the days Kirk and the Enterprise skirmished with the Empire twice.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • skylarcometskylarcomet Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    skylarcomet wrote: »
    lanewesh wrote: »
    we could have a new version based on the superhawk XD

    http://fasaststcs.com/index.php/thefleets/romulan-star-empire/v-50-superhawk-class-x-command-cruiser/

    Maybe? I really would prefer a new design of some sort, the Romulan Republic should be designing their own new ships, though I suppose some design ideas could come from past ships. They are still Romulan's, but as a people trying to break away from what the empire was, I would think they would want their ships to have something different about them, so when one saw a Republic warbird they knew it was a Republic and not an RSE ship.

    We are Romulans, we still march beneath the raptor's wings. Republican propaganda still uses this, hell the symbol is an ascendant raptor in the vein of a Phoenix's rebirth. Ship design will continue to follow that theme as well, its been with us for centuries, and remember we age like Vulcans, many Romulans remember the good and the bad of the Star Empire. Hell some still remember the days Kirk and the Enterprise skirmished with the Empire twice.

    Oh, we definitely need to keep the Warbird design going, I just meant that if we are going to take an old RSE ship and update it, the design should be modified enough that it is distinct. The RSE wasn't always as bad as it has been recently, and like you said, Romlan's have a very long life span. I would just love to see a nice new Warbird that is designed around science, and maybe somehow make it an exploration ship. But they should always and forever be Warbirds.

    (Though, and I am probably alone in this, would like to see it have a section on the bottom or something similar to the orb saucer thing on the Hope Class Research Science Vessel the Feds have. It may be my favorite Fed ship design, lol. Maybe just as an option for the mission pod or something?)
    >:)ruff, meow, moo, whatever.... *shrug*
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  • bumperthumperbumperthumper Member Posts: 513 Arc User
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    Yeah, about that... some day I would like to replace the large poster of stars in my Scimmy where there should actually be a screen. Sorry, I lied. I don't even use that thing anymore. It's too boring.

    On-topic:
    To play devil's advocate, the Rommie faction is still relatively "new". I don't know how many designers they have in the studio, so it's probably pretty low priority to make more models. However, it wouldn't take too much time to simply use old skins and give them a different Boff layout/Console layout/Trait, etc.

    We do need more options. I agree.
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  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    wardcalis wrote: »
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    /cryptic

    Roms need a unique sci ship, an upgrade of the Ha'Nom would suffice

    an

    A Rom Sci/Tac 2 hanger Carrier that is unique to them

    Please not the Ha'Nom, the ships flys like and ENG ship. what we really need is a new line of sci ships that should roll out from the rupblic shipyards
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  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    alikain wrote: »
    wardcalis wrote: »
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    /cryptic

    Roms need a unique sci ship, an upgrade of the Ha'Nom would suffice

    an

    A Rom Sci/Tac 2 hanger Carrier that is unique to them

    Please not the Ha'Nom, the ships flys like and ENG ship. what we really need is a new line of sci ships that should roll out from the rupblic shipyards

    Good luck with that one. Klingons also have to face the fact that the big dev in charge is giving science ships another "F**K YOU!" to the idea.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    kyrrok wrote: »
    alikain wrote: »
    wardcalis wrote: »
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    /cryptic

    Roms need a unique sci ship, an upgrade of the Ha'Nom would suffice

    an

    A Rom Sci/Tac 2 hanger Carrier that is unique to them

    Please not the Ha'Nom, the ships flys like and ENG ship. what we really need is a new line of sci ships that should roll out from the rupblic shipyards

    Good luck with that one. Klingons also have to face the fact that the big dev in charge is giving science ships another "F**K YOU!" to the idea.

    Perhaps we should buy the Science ships we have then, eh? >:)
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  • skylarcometskylarcomet Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    bltrrn wrote: »
    kyrrok wrote: »
    alikain wrote: »
    wardcalis wrote: »
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    /cryptic

    Roms need a unique sci ship, an upgrade of the Ha'Nom would suffice

    an

    A Rom Sci/Tac 2 hanger Carrier that is unique to them

    Please not the Ha'Nom, the ships flys like and ENG ship. what we really need is a new line of sci ships that should roll out from the rupblic shipyards

    Good luck with that one. Klingons also have to face the fact that the big dev in charge is giving science ships another "F**K YOU!" to the idea.

    Perhaps we should buy the Science ships we have then, eh? >:)

    But the only Romulan c-store science ship is the silly dyson ships.
    >:)ruff, meow, moo, whatever.... *shrug*
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Silly is an interesting word... they work rather well in their role as a sci ship... sure they're sub-par destroyers but silly?
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • knightnbluknightnblu Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    The lack of bridges for Romulan vessels is the worst in the game. It matters not the size of the ship, it's purpose, or it's crew compliment. One size fits all. Despite that fact, the Romulan ship layout is the best in game, imho. Nowhere will you find more eye candy. In truth, even the Rommie shuttles have better internals.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    skylarcomet wrote: »
    bltrrn wrote: »
    kyrrok wrote: »
    alikain wrote: »
    wardcalis wrote: »
    lordonightmares wrote: »
    I feel the Romulan ships get neglected a bit as well. for instance look at how many bridge and ship layouts we get to pick compared to the Federation or Klingons and we don't get much of a selection of ships until we pick ether Klingon or Federation.

    /cryptic

    Roms need a unique sci ship, an upgrade of the Ha'Nom would suffice

    an

    A Rom Sci/Tac 2 hanger Carrier that is unique to them

    Please not the Ha'Nom, the ships flys like and ENG ship. what we really need is a new line of sci ships that should roll out from the rupblic shipyards

    Good luck with that one. Klingons also have to face the fact that the big dev in charge is giving science ships another "F**K YOU!" to the idea.

    Perhaps we should buy the Science ships we have then, eh? >:)

    But the only Romulan c-store science ship is the silly dyson ships.

    So, capital ships don't count? XD
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    knightnblu wrote: »
    The lack of bridges for Romulan vessels is the worst in the game. It matters not the size of the ship, it's purpose, or it's crew compliment. One size fits all. Despite that fact, the Romulan ship layout is the best in game, imho. Nowhere will you find more eye candy. In truth, even the Rommie shuttles have better internals.

    by the time of LoR they'd already abandoned the concept of ship interiors being relevant or selling... hence why we cant even place trophies
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    Which is something that seriously needs to be FIXED!
    I mean ffs even the exclusive intrepid interior lets you place trophies.
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  • devilzaphandevilzaphan Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    Guess what, you are going thru what Klingon players went thru before being made into a full faction. This is nothing new to us old players but given time these ship designs and other discrepancies will be addressed eventually.
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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    Silly is an interesting word... they work rather well in their role as a sci ship... sure they're sub-par destroyers but silly?

    Their officer setup is wrong for sci ship, and on a scale of 0-10 with paradox being 10 scryer being 9, the dyson is about a 6. Dyson was ok, 2 years ago, and I bought one and enjoied it for a while. Even then, my recluse was a better sci ship.

  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    dunno if Id go that far, it does a good job... I have a couple characters flying one atm and it serves its role fairly well.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    Silly is an interesting word... they work rather well in their role as a sci ship... sure they're sub-par destroyers but silly?
    I hate the fact that, you can not even take out the solanae dual heavy cannons. the 1000 days veteran reward ships is by far the best destroyer compair to dyson science destroyer anyway.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I'll give ya that point... it does get a bit irritating loosing that slot to a weapon type that has almost 0 other weapons to support it.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    Silly is an interesting word... they work rather well in their role as a sci ship... sure they're sub-par destroyers but silly?

    As a destroyer, she's "doubly gimped" because of the focus on protonic polaron weapons (due to that 4th slot being a baked-in protonic polaron DHC) and the fact that to use protonic weapons "fully" you have to run the "lame" (ie, not the best-best for DeePS) Dyson Rep Tactical Consoles.

    However, as a Science ship kitted out in Protonic Polaron, she's not too bad - except for those who think you're not "science-ing" with only 1 LtCmdr Sci seat...

    And therein lies the hidden beauty of this bird... Treating her as a "Vesta Light" with LtCmdr Tac (occupying uni seat on Vesta) that can "spring out" an extra DHC and Cmdr-Tac power for... the right tactically oriented reason - such as a final boss or a solid mid-boss that then returns you to "normal" combat mode like the Breach's Citadel or a gone-south left transformer in ISA.

    Nevermind that it's one of the few ships that can CSV into a self-summoned Gravity Well... :tongue:
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,676 Arc User
    dareau wrote: »
    And therein lies the hidden beauty of this bird... Treating her as a "Vesta Light" with LtCmdr Tac (occupying uni seat on Vesta) that can "spring out" an extra DHC and Cmdr-Tac power for... the right tactically oriented reason - such as a final boss or a solid mid-boss that then returns you to "normal" combat mode like the Breach's Citadel or a gone-south left transformer in ISA.

    This what I wanted out of the DSDs, but I just ended up feeling gimped instead whenever flying one. Care to post your build? I tried several builds but always felt short of what my Vesta could do Fed side, even with it's Lt. Comm set to Tac. Even ignoring the Protonic DHCs didn't seem to help much (though, I tended to go DHCs as it just looked right for the Rom version).
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited March 2016
    personally, even tho sing jump has been nerf'd to hell, I still like a grav well + sing jump combo with an after shot of 3 hv plasma torps from the hyper torp launcher I placed in aft....

    of late tho Ive just left my Aves in sci mode, even on a tac captain, but yes there are times that extra 'SURPRISE!' is sweet.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    Ha'nom and Ha'feh both serve their roles well enough - light-to-medium escort, and a heavy sci cruiser.

    I'd hope the T6 of both are on their way, now that the Kara warbird is a thing. That's something I'd be likely to pick up.

    Either way, Romulans need more ships. I'd like both a T6 Ha'nom based on the Kara hull, but I'd also like a pure-sci light warbird that's a counterpart to, say, the Nova.
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