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Do you like the new Shield hit FX?

leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,519 Arc User
edited January 2016 in The Art of Star Trek Online
Having seen the 'updated' Shield FX when hit, I found it was bland, a few squiggly lines and no colours. I preferred the old look, which was more colourful and showed decently that you were being hit. What are your opinions on whether you liked it or not? Please state your reasons.
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Do you like the new Shield hit FX? 20 votes

I liked it because.....
35%
garaks31mustrumridcully0bltrrnodinforever20000angrytargwarpangelbeethobzen 7 votes
I disliked it because.....
20%
alexraptorrpottsey5gtruemalevolenceleemwatson 4 votes
I'm undecided about it because.....
45%
amosov78captainoblivousfreakiumhyplrattler2tucker031vilecalamitousbovinemastertasshena 9 votes

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,701 Community Moderator
    I'm undecided about it because.....
    Haven't really paid attention yet.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    I'm undecided about it because.....
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Haven't really paid attention yet.

    I haven't noticed it either. I almost forgot there was an update... :|

  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    I'm undecided about it because.....
    I wouldn't mind if the standard shields were colour tinted differently. Green for KDF, plasma green for Romulans, and blue for Starfleet, for example.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    I liked it because.....
    I like it. No specific reason, really, it looks good and not as "artificial/cartoonish" as the old one. I wish it would have that "honeycomb" pattern that shields supposedly have in Star Trek (STO uses them on ground, the early Borg had it and I think TOS shields were supposed to look like that as well (non canon info, though) )but other than that it's fine.​​
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,701 Community Moderator
    I'm undecided about it because.....
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I like it. No specific reason, really, it looks good and not as "artificial/cartoonish" as the old one. I wish it would have that "honeycomb" pattern that shields supposedly have in Star Trek (STO uses them on ground, the early Borg had it and I think TOS shields were supposed to look like that as well (non canon info, though) )but other than that it's fine.​​

    Actually... I don't think they really showed TOS shields due to tech and budget at the time. We never really saw shields even in the TOS Movies. Sure they said things about weakening shields, but no shield impacts and we saw damage to the hull despite shields in TUC. Hell... a torpedo punched through the Excelsior's saucer right after she arrived, with shields up.

    We didn't see shield flares until TNG. And I think the Honeycomb pattern is actually an game engine thing I think, since we're using the same engine as Champions Online, so reuse of existing resources.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    I liked it because.....
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Actually... I don't think they really showed TOS shields due to tech and budget at the time. We never really saw shields even in the TOS Movies. Sure they said things about weakening shields, but no shield impacts and we saw damage to the hull despite shields in TUC. Hell... a torpedo punched through the Excelsior's saucer right after she arrived, with shields up.

    We didn't see shield flares until TNG. And I think the Honeycomb pattern is actually an game engine thing I think, since we're using the same engine as Champions Online, so reuse of existing resources.

    Yes I know. That's why I said it's non-canon info.

    Mr. Scott's manual for the Enterprise (I don't know what it's called right now) described shield systems and depicted them in the honeycomb pattern. The original Borg shield effect used this pattern as well which is why I thought STO used it for the barrier fields, forcefield domes etc.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • freakiumfreakium Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    I'm undecided about it because.....
    amosov78 wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind if the standard shields were colour tinted differently. Green for KDF, plasma green for Romulans, and blue for Starfleet, for example.

    That would have been a nice update. I suppose they use white so that the effect is universal. However, coloured shields would be more canon, and I'm a stickler for canon. I remember spending hours modding a good looking shield effect and colour for my ships in Bridge Commander.

    As for my opinion of the current shields, I'm ok with it. It's a little bit... wavy I guess is the correct word. Like ripples. If I could choose though, I would rather stick to a canon shield effect which in my mind is the one shown in First Contact.

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  • autumnturningautumnturning Member Posts: 743 Arc User
    They could have used the MACO Impulse Engine "teardrop" texturing seen in sector space for the honeycomb look on the shields if they really wanted.
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    I'm undecided about it because.....
    I still haven't noticed any new shield effects. They're just totally overwhelmed by other effects and one can't see them. Therefore, I voted "undecided".
    I need a beer.

  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    I liked it because.....
    I still haven't noticed any new shield effects. They're just totally overwhelmed by other effects and one can't see them. Therefore, I voted "undecided".

    This is a fair point, though. It's time Cryptic takes a stance on all the coloured effects at one point.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,519 Arc User
    I disliked it because.....
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I still haven't noticed any new shield effects. They're just totally overwhelmed by other effects and one can't see them. Therefore, I voted "undecided".

    This is a fair point, though. It's time Cryptic takes a stance on all the coloured effects at one point.​​

    Agreed. When I have loads of powers/traits firing off their effects, it obscures the action alot! Only things that physically affect the ship and/or shields (weapon impacts/shield effects etc) should be shown.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • lirokailirokai Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    I do miss the days when space battles looked like space battles rather than fireworks shows. I know the tech fx guys need to keep busy, but every new torpedo/power/ship trait looks more bombastic compared to the last. I feel less like Trek and more like a flying circus.

    It's like every new effect has to be so distinct and stand out from the others, they just keep trying to top themselves.
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
  • truemalevolencetruemalevolence Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    I disliked it because.....
    I don't like it mainly due to the fact it lingers too long after the initial impact.
    Given the amount weapons fire that hits the shields from every direction it still looks really wrong that impact just pops up on the front, back and sides of the ship.

    A smaller, faster, realtime effect that looked like it was reacting to where the weapon was actually coming from would have been better.

    The effect itself I don't mind but now that distortion rendering over the top is gone the shield is so subtle I hardly notice it.

    This video pretty much sums up what I'd like to see one day.

    https://youtu.be/5gwBeyg45eU
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    I've always had it off.
    They don't look anything like the shields in any of the shows and it kinda ruins my personal immersion.
    I know somebody put a lot of effort into creating it, and I'm not downplaying Their creative talents, but it just doesn't do it for me.

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  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    I disliked it because.....
    What do you mean off? It can't be turned off.

    Anyway don't like it tbh, would much rather see something more true to the shows.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    What do you mean off? It can't be turned off.

    Anyway don't like it tbh, would much rather see something more true to the shows.
    Under 'Options' at the top of the BASIC Tab... "Enable Directional Shield FX" ON/OFF

    If there is another animation with the shields, then I'm unaware of it as I haven't noticed it yet.

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  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    I disliked it because.....
    daveyny wrote: »
    What do you mean off? It can't be turned off.

    Anyway don't like it tbh, would much rather see something more true to the shows.
    Under 'Options' at the top of the BASIC Tab... "Enable Directional Shield FX" ON/OFF

    If there is another animation with the shields, then I'm unaware of it as I haven't noticed it yet.

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    Yeah that's not what we are talking about.
    Were talking about the visual effects from weapons impacting on the shield bubble. Which can be noticeable in the lower tiers, but tends to slip buy at endgame due to the infinite ability spam and their animations.
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