What a bunch of... Posters on these Forums are here mock and make fun of people and generally to suck the enthusiasm and joy from others.
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Can't we just play nice, folks? Pretty please, with a cherry on the top?
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That Klingon ship isn't intended to be (or inspired by) a jamming cruiser from the Klingon Academy game, is it? That might explain the dish.
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What a bunch of... Posters on these Forums are here mock and make fun of people and generally to suck the enthusiasm and joy from others.
You're absolutely right! Nobody should ever EVER voice their opinion that they don't like something an artist made (especially if it's in a humorous fashion). All artistic works should be praised! Especially at Christmas time!
Yeah. People really need to learn to lighten up a bit. We're all just having a bit of harmless fun. Especially in threads like these, where you already know Cryptic can't ever take it serious. Tacofangs once said (paraphrased) "We never use the work of others, but if you're serious about wanting to contribute, come work for us instead." There are just too many legal pitfalls to consider.
So, what remains is just having a bit of harmless fun with the Klink. :P
Criticism is fine, when they get to the point that the Moderator needs to ask to cool it and edit then it looks like the comments were beginning to go over the edge. And you know that if the Moderator's boss gets involved it will be a closure period with maybe two or three one word sentences added for effect.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
The ships are for inspirational purposes only. Players WANT to use ships that look familiar to them, from the actual TV and Movies of Star Trek.
"Where's my T6 _____________ ?" Fill in the blank with your favorite canon starship that has yet to be made into an end-game model. See how this works? It's about bringing familiar elements into the highest tiers of the game. This has not yet happened for many players, myself included.
Why in the world do you focus on such small insignificant details like that deflector dish the artist put on the primary hull? Who cares if it's there or not?
It's the basic design that captures the Original Design of a Klingon starship but shows how that can be made into a modern form. Not to copy down to the last hull seam or tiny bits here and there.
INSPIRATION of CANON type starship designs for Star Trek Online. How can this simple fact and purpose be translated into a flame war? How can this be over your heads? Talk about missing the forest for the trees being in the way. Wow.
Anyways, I never meant what the flamers are claiming.
INSPIRATION is the heart and soul of all artistic works. Starships included.
Threads like, "ZOMG Devs look at this design, you should totally add it!!!" is almost a setup for flames.
It's pointless to start. We don't even know if it's even possible to bring to the game to being with let alone if anyone else even wants it in the game. Devs also have much better tools to play around with other than googling images.
It's the basic design that captures the Original Design of a Klingon starship but shows how that can be made into a modern form. Not to copy down to the last hull seam or tiny bits here and there.
This doesn't look modern at all. My opinion of course.
Retired. I'm now in search for that perfect space anomaly.
The ship inspires creativity in finding ways to describe how risky it is to break established symmetry on a derivative of a Star Trek ship. This ship broke symmetry in an utterly remarkable way. It would do a disservice to the remarkable not to remark, especially due to all the inspiration.
Players WANT to use ships that look familiar to them, from the actual TV and Movies of Star Trek.
Personally, I have no interest in using ships based on their appearance. Ironically, I've found the more familiar I was with a canon ship before I played STO, the less useful it is to me in STO.
"Where's my T6 _____________ ?" Fill in the blank with your favorite canon starship that has yet to be made into an end-game model. See how this works? It's about bringing familiar elements into the highest tiers of the game.
A lot of T6 klingon ships are derived from the familiar elements of the K't'inga, just as this ship was. The problem here is that the K't'inga is several generations behind T6. To bring those familiar retro elements into a T6 ship would pretty much mean this is a slightly too-subtle variation of a Can We Have a T5 Connie? thread, where the OP is asking for a T6 K't'inga, instead of a T5 Connie.
Why in the world do you focus on such small insignificant details like that deflector dish the artist put on the primary hull?
It isn't small, nor is it insignificant, it's remarkable. It breaks symmetry in an aesthetically unpleasing way. It's ugly. Qualitatively speaking, it's real ugly. It's the kind of real ugly that furls your brow without your your permission. It's the kind of real ugly that causes you to grimace and shake your head, "no". It may actually be an abomination, but I'm not entirely sure if abominations are subject to criteria like a "platinum records", where they must disgust a certain number of people before they can be labeled as such.
Either way, it's definitely real ugly, and may be a full-fledged abomination.
It's the basic design that captures the Original Design of a Klingon starship but shows how that can be made into a modern form.
Not really, it's a derivative of a K't'inga that is using the original form, it isn't modern at all. The Modern T6 KDF forms are several generations removed from the K't'inga, and look very little like this derivative you posted. The derivative that was posted is quite retro.
Anyways, I never meant what the flamers are claiming.
The thread has been sanitized by moderator intervention. I have no idea what they were claiming, nor would I speak of it if I did. To be frank, it kinda feels like you just flamed me with those things you said above, and we haven't even spoken before.
that federation ship next to it looks like it was kitbashed from ambassador, akira, d'kyr, nova and something else for nacelles. about 70% of it is again butchered from the original designs and someone else's fan fiction.
And the artist (http://paul-lloyd.deviantart.com/) doesn't claim otherwise. I think he's (*gasp*) having fun. I've heard there are people that like to do that, although most days they're bloody rare around these parts, apparently.
Yes, well, his work is hideous.
Sayeth the notorious sourpuss who hates everything and everyone.
Why in the world do you focus on such small insignificant details like that deflector dish the artist put on the primary hull?
It isn't small, nor is it insignificant, it's remarkable. It breaks symmetry in an aesthetically unpleasing way. It's ugly. Qualitatively speaking, it's real ugly. It's the kind of real ugly that furls your brow without your your permission. It's the kind of real ugly that causes you to grimace and shake your head, "no". It may actually be an abomination, but I'm not entirely sure if abominations are subject to criteria like a "platinum records", where they must disgust a certain number of people before they can be labeled as such.
Either way, it's definitely real ugly, and may be a full-fledged abomination.
It's not a number just a simple majority I think. So if more than half the people who look at it think it's too hideous to live.... that makes a consensus.
I don't like the design posted by the OP. It doesn't work for me. The hull appears to be a classic hull as the Federation starship seems to sport a classic saucer. The difficulty I see is internal continuity; It looks like parts were cobbled together that were constructed in completely different eras, The lack of consistency is amplified by the small saucer on the starboard side of the saucer. While more "modern" the saucer itself looks like the head of a vacuum cleaner.
In contrast the second design posted by themetalstickman had me at go. The artist cheated and rolled his cruiser forward with design cues from the B'rel (my opinion); I think it is beautiful . The characteristic lines of the cruiser remain but it is blended with the more organic forms exhibited in the Bird of Prey. These changes are consistent throughout the design as a whole. I wish IP wasn't such a minefield. I would love to put my warriors at the conn.
Well it is clear from the comments of some that looking at the OPs Design will turn the viewer into a pillar of salt.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I rather like the designs myself. I can say with certainty (for me at least), when looking at them that I have seen FAR worse designs for my tastes ingame. Although saying that, ship designs are always a matter of opinion. So what is ugly to me might be he most amazing ship ever designed to someone else amd vice versa.
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The artist received positive and less than positive reviews of their work. I was of the former rather than latter but it's only an opinion and hopefully won't dissuade them from carrying with their art if it gives them pleasure. We all have different visions and interpretations of the Trek universe and he or she should be commended for having the courage to share them here.
That Klingon ship isn't intended to be (or inspired by) a jamming cruiser from the Klingon Academy game, is it? That might explain the dish.
That is NOT a dish.
Why is everyone calling it a "dish"?
It's a suction cup.
The Captain makes some random Bek from the House of Duras go out and lick the edges of it to ensure a good seal for when the ship rams the target.
The 2 smaller protrusions on the other side are speakers that pierce the hull and plays dubstep.
It renders Federation personnel stunned indefinitely because THERE IS NO DROP and they are forced to wait for it.
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The artist received positive and less than positive reviews of their work. I was of the former rather than latter but it's only an opinion and hopefully won't dissuade them from carrying with their art if it gives them pleasure. We all have different visions and interpretations of the Trek universe and he or she should be commended for having the courage to share them here.
The OP apparently isn't the creator of the design. Which is part of why this thread is weird. The OP found a random design they liked and posted about it.
Now that is what the KDF Command Cruisers should have looked like! Not crazy about the dated sattilite dish style antenna on the port bow but other then that DEVS this is what a KDF battleship/command should look like! Very nice evolution of Matt Jefferies timeless D-7 design!
The front section looks dated at best, and the coalition symbol is irrelevant since we do not actually work, as a full fledge coalition!
Are you talking about that Trifoil? Hate to break this to you but that is the color of Matt Jefferies Trifoil seen on EVERY Klingon ship in ALL the TOS ERA ships. It is not a "coalition" symbol!
The front section looks dated at best, and the coalition symbol is irrelevant since we do not actually work, as a full fledge coalition!
Are you talking about that Trifoil? Hate to break this to you but that is the color of Matt Jefferies Trifoil seen on EVERY Klingon ship in ALL the TOS ERA ships. It is not a "coalition" symbol!
Trifoil or not, it has all 3 faction colors, hence why I refer to it as a coalition version of the KDF symbol!
In fact, the yellow circle could almost pass, as representing the Cardassian faction as well!
The front section looks dated at best, and the coalition symbol is irrelevant since we do not actually work, as a full fledge coalition!
Are you talking about that Trifoil? Hate to break this to you but that is the color of Matt Jefferies Trifoil seen on EVERY Klingon ship in ALL the TOS ERA ships. It is not a "coalition" symbol!
Trifoil or not, it has all 3 faction colors, hence why I refer to it as a coalition version of the KDF symbol!
In fact, the yellow circle could almost pass, as representing the Cardassian faction as well!
Seriously you really don't know much about the history of the Star Trek franchise then. The Multi color Klingon emblem has been in those colors since the first Klingon ship was seen on screen nearly 50 years ago. The observation you made is a coincidence and not "coalition" marker at all in any way or shape. But it seems that you really don't care that you are completly mistaken and nor do you wish to learn about the History of this great franchise.
The front section looks dated at best, and the coalition symbol is irrelevant since we do not actually work, as a full fledge coalition!
Are you talking about that Trifoil? Hate to break this to you but that is the color of Matt Jefferies Trifoil seen on EVERY Klingon ship in ALL the TOS ERA ships. It is not a "coalition" symbol!
Trifoil or not, it has all 3 faction colors, hence why I refer to it as a coalition version of the KDF symbol!
In fact, the yellow circle could almost pass, as representing the Cardassian faction as well!
Seriously you really don't know much about the history of the Star Trek franchise then. The Multi color Klingon emblum has been in those colors since the first Klingon ship was seen on screen nearly 50 years ago. The observation you made is a coincidence and not "coalition" marker at all in any way or shape. But it seems that you really don't care that you are completly mistaken and nor do you wish to learn about the History of this great franchise.
You're right, I don't care, and nor do I care to learn about some idiotic comment from you, or the history of some odd colors used for a faction symbol!
Also, you might want to learn how to spell emblem!
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You know the movie Alien?! That's what this ship reminds me of: the Alien extending its inner teeth rack! LOL.
Yeah. People really need to learn to lighten up a bit.
So, what remains is just having a bit of harmless fun with the Klink. :P
The hammer form of the front reminds me of the original alternative Neg'Var skin, the Qu'Daj. I often use parts of it.
That's what happens if you take the Kor and slot a Commander Science, right?
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
"Where's my T6 _____________ ?" Fill in the blank with your favorite canon starship that has yet to be made into an end-game model. See how this works? It's about bringing familiar elements into the highest tiers of the game. This has not yet happened for many players, myself included.
Why in the world do you focus on such small insignificant details like that deflector dish the artist put on the primary hull? Who cares if it's there or not?
It's the basic design that captures the Original Design of a Klingon starship but shows how that can be made into a modern form. Not to copy down to the last hull seam or tiny bits here and there.
INSPIRATION of CANON type starship designs for Star Trek Online. How can this simple fact and purpose be translated into a flame war? How can this be over your heads? Talk about missing the forest for the trees being in the way. Wow.
Anyways, I never meant what the flamers are claiming.
INSPIRATION is the heart and soul of all artistic works. Starships included.
TTFN,
T9
It's pointless to start. We don't even know if it's even possible to bring to the game to being with let alone if anyone else even wants it in the game. Devs also have much better tools to play around with other than googling images.
This doesn't look modern at all. My opinion of course.
My character Tsin'xing
Personally, I have no interest in using ships based on their appearance. Ironically, I've found the more familiar I was with a canon ship before I played STO, the less useful it is to me in STO.
A lot of T6 klingon ships are derived from the familiar elements of the K't'inga, just as this ship was. The problem here is that the K't'inga is several generations behind T6. To bring those familiar retro elements into a T6 ship would pretty much mean this is a slightly too-subtle variation of a Can We Have a T5 Connie? thread, where the OP is asking for a T6 K't'inga, instead of a T5 Connie.
The T5 Connie crowd included.
It isn't small, nor is it insignificant, it's remarkable. It breaks symmetry in an aesthetically unpleasing way. It's ugly. Qualitatively speaking, it's real ugly. It's the kind of real ugly that furls your brow without your your permission. It's the kind of real ugly that causes you to grimace and shake your head, "no". It may actually be an abomination, but I'm not entirely sure if abominations are subject to criteria like a "platinum records", where they must disgust a certain number of people before they can be labeled as such.
Either way, it's definitely real ugly, and may be a full-fledged abomination.
A lot of people, it seems. Like I said, breaking symmetry on a derivative of a Star Trek ship is risky.
Not really, it's a derivative of a K't'inga that is using the original form, it isn't modern at all. The Modern T6 KDF forms are several generations removed from the K't'inga, and look very little like this derivative you posted. The derivative that was posted is quite retro.
I really have no idea.
My head? It isn't. Not sure why you felt the need to insult me like that.
Relax, friend.
Wow is right.
The thread has been sanitized by moderator intervention. I have no idea what they were claiming, nor would I speak of it if I did. To be frank, it kinda feels like you just flamed me with those things you said above, and we haven't even spoken before.
Nah, it's more about motivation and creativity for me. Mere inspiration leads to far too many unoriginal imitations and outright stylistic blunders.
I'm actually quite happy with non-derivative starships, myself.
Toodles.
Sayeth the notorious sourpuss who hates everything and everyone.
My character Tsin'xing
In contrast the second design posted by themetalstickman had me at go. The artist cheated and rolled his cruiser forward with design cues from the B'rel (my opinion); I think it is beautiful
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I can say with certainty (for me at least), when looking at them that I have seen FAR worse designs for my tastes ingame.
Although saying that, ship designs are always a matter of opinion. So what is ugly to me might be he most amazing ship ever designed to someone else amd vice versa.
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Or, a secondary deflector!!! LOL
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That is NOT a dish.
Why is everyone calling it a "dish"?
It's a suction cup.
The Captain makes some random Bek from the House of Duras go out and lick the edges of it to ensure a good seal for when the ship rams the target.
The 2 smaller protrusions on the other side are speakers that pierce the hull and plays dubstep.
It renders Federation personnel stunned indefinitely because THERE IS NO DROP and they are forced to wait for it.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
My character Tsin'xing
Maybe their "representative" will pass it on. It's Christmas and I was trying to be nicer than I should have
Are you talking about that Trifoil? Hate to break this to you but that is the color of Matt Jefferies Trifoil seen on EVERY Klingon ship in ALL the TOS ERA ships. It is not a "coalition" symbol!
Trifoil or not, it has all 3 faction colors, hence why I refer to it as a coalition version of the KDF symbol!
In fact, the yellow circle could almost pass, as representing the Cardassian faction as well!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Seriously you really don't know much about the history of the Star Trek franchise then. The Multi color Klingon emblem has been in those colors since the first Klingon ship was seen on screen nearly 50 years ago. The observation you made is a coincidence and not "coalition" marker at all in any way or shape. But it seems that you really don't care that you are completly mistaken and nor do you wish to learn about the History of this great franchise.
You're right, I don't care, and nor do I care to learn about some idiotic comment from you, or the history of some odd colors used for a faction symbol!
Also, you might want to learn how to spell emblem!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!