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hawkwing43
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Your going to believe this or not, agree or disagree. Watch for yourself, it's a little long, but worth it if you study the topic. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xKwdnxGJuY#t=654
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Did you watch the video? Mr. Geer did answer that question of why. He goes over what is going on when it comes to Governments and the great cover up.
Funny, that is part of what he explains too. Why you don't see people just coming out to blow the whistle. Plus the fact the people holding the secret, only let in a small few behind that door to the great secret. Those that do come out to say what they seen, well they are made out to be fools, so why would be believe them anyway. The topic treated to the point of your crazy to believe it, and you didn't see what you thing you saw. Yep very hard to keep a secret when your made out to be stupid and a fool. So who is willing to get treated like that? And for the ones that have cred, they are killed right away. So again how can you prove it 100%.
Come on guys, it's not hard to keep this hidden for the regular people.
1. The common guy doesn't care.
2. The people that do care are made out to be fools
3. It's a lot deeper than you think, It goes beyond the cover government, these guys work in the shadows, and we don't vote them in.
And yes in the video, it's explained why the aliens don't just land on the front lawn and say here we are. Look to Star Trek's Federation for that plan answer. geez
(Not expressing any particular view of any of those things here, by the way. Just examples of things it's near-impossible to have an objective scientific discussion of because any scientist who seriously considers their side of the argument is disqualified.)
But what I always stick at with the UFO thing is, where's the evidence? I mean, there are fuzzy photos galore, and anecdotes from various people, but nothing clear and definite. Nothing that'd pass muster in a scientific paper, and very little that wouldn't be looked at sideways in a court of law. I get what you're saying about a "Prime Directive" possibly being in force, but under what circumstances does it make sense for them to go as far as they supposedly have, and hold back only from providing any reliable evidence? I mean, imagine you were a Starfleet captain... how could it possibly make sense that you would be allowed to carry on in the way the aliens purport to carry on, flaunting yourself all over a planet, chatting privately to hundreds of the natives from spies and military officers to New Age mystics and telling them things that make their heads spin around, and causing rumours to spread all over the planet, just so long as you didn't tell anyone anything testable or let anyone take a clear photograph of you?
Also, the anecdotes contradict each other. I haven't seen anyone explain that.
(No, I haven't watched the video, I'm afraid I just haven't got 2 hours to spare. If there's anything in it relevant to what I've just said, please summarise or get out.
Nope. When military secrets are regularly leaked on the internet nothing held on a computer is safe. There are no aliens or we'd know already.
Unless all evidence is held on paper. Also you know for certain that as soon as you involve real people in a super secret conspiracy some wistleblower will reveal all, with real evidence and everything.
Unless you somehow think leaking the CIAs secrets is allowable by the men in black but not aliens?
I know thinking you have special knowledge makes people feel all cleaver and big inside but it's pointless and wrong and leads to kids being extradited to the USA for hacking the Pentagon looking for these bloody made up bollocks. Stupid alien rumours are getting real people arrested and extradited to face real criminal charges. Is playing around on the internet worth that?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Lets's see 1st I will add. Yes I have seen my own lights in the sky. Some of them meteors, others satellites, and still others the shuttle or the Space station. Then there was this one night with red lights moving in the formation of the pentagon, then sawm around like insects, then return to the same formation. When are the pics or video? Sorry I was a kid, and even if I had something to use, they didn't stick around long enough to get a clear pic anyway. So to my point on this, not everyone will have something to show with their own encounters.
The video is long granted, but I found a couple things interesting.
1. He speaks on who, why and how's of the great UFO secret. A little more details about what's going on there. And why we been told why we better not go past certain points in my own system.
2. He claims his group can call tot eh ET's or whoever it is, and they can and do have pics an or video of the encounters, some of which he displays in the video.
3. It was also said they are working with a couple governments to help force the hand of the secret keepers, so for once and for all the truth is put out there to see.
4. He shows a few UFO reports and pics for these other government agencies.
There is more, but I would have to watch it again to remember it all.
Fact is, it's been leaking out all over the place, from sources like astronauts, military personnel, high level politicians, ect. ect. ect.
. Military personnel in charge of our own nukes were even on CNN telling us that a UFO shut down our nukes during the cold war.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/ufos-showed-interest-in-nukes-ex-air-force-personnel-say/comment-page-4/
. U.S. Air Force. USAF deputy base commander and his personnel claimed to that a UFO scanned our nukes that we secretly had at RAF Woodbridge in England.
. John Callahan, former Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA testifies before the committee about an aircraft incident over Alaska involving a UFO and about the investigation and cover-up that hid it from the public
. Michio Kaku's been on national telling us not to rule the ET hypothesis out.
. Dr Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 astronaut, tells us he's been told we've been visited.
. Former Canada defence minister Paul Hellyer, tells we've been visited.
The French government itself commissioned a study called the COMETA Report, in which they determined that UFOs were real and likely extraterrestrial in origin.
It's difficult to believe that all of these people, (professionals), are nuts, or simply incompetent.
Learn how to objectively analyse information and look at all possible answers and not just scream 'alien' or 'conspire' to anything you can't be bothered to research.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Now when you view other people's finds on this topic, sure your going to have the BS ones, but it's the others that are rooted in facts you have to figure out.
Again, if the people keeping the secret don't want you to know, they will use everything within their power to keep it from you. These guys work behind that OZ curtain if you will, and they don't like to give up what they have without a fight. The body count tell me so.
if there are aliens...they're not the brightest star in the bunch, i'd only visit earth either for a laugh or to use as an example of what NOT to do with your existance
#TextWallsAreRealMan... no doubt you could build a couple text houses with all dese wallz
Mwahahahahahahaha
OH BTW I found this video an GOOD view oh the why and why not questions.
Eye witness testimonies are the worst form of evidence, they are unreliable and often inadmissible in courts of law. Look up 'confirmation bias' and 'Pareidolia' .
And again, no. the ever nebulous 'they' are not and can not hide evidence of things like aliens in the modern world.
What body count, you're just being silly now.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Fifty-year-old Alistair Beckham was a successful British aerospace- projects engineer. His specialty was designing computer software for sophisticated naval defense systems. Like hundreds of other British scientists, he was working on a pilot program for America's Strategic Defense Initiative--better known as Star Wars. And like at least 21 of his colleagues, he died a bizarre, violent death.
That's one is a long line, need I list them all?
Who said our leadership even knows what's going on day to day. I question everything they do. That's why I keep saying it's the guys working in the shadows of the government, they don't answer to the others, heck they might be the ones making all the rules, and just pushing those dummies out front, and tell them to read it off the text prompter.
Yes, as well as post mortem reports potential other reasons for death and other supporting evidence. That's how evidence works.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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The Point is most met their end in bizarre ways. If a hit man was part of that reason, of course you will have question of why and how. There are real life agents that help people disappear or end them you know. The evidence of situations like that can and will be setup to mirror what they want you to see.
I have to agree with the stance of expecting it to have been leaked. Actual state secrets get leaked.... yet proof that aliens have visited Earth does not?
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.You have military personnel in charge of the world's most powerful weapons, no slouches mind you, who tell us SOMETHING they can't explain interfered with these very weapons in ways that they can't explain.
.Then others, who are experts in the most advanced aircraft the world knows, (because they guard them CHRIST SAKES ! ), who tell you they saw aircraft that behaved unlike any that originate on Earth, while hovering over those very weapons.
You have the testimony of former FAA division chief John Callahan, who tells: about a 1986 Japanese Airlines 747 flight that was followed by a UFO for 31 minutes over the Alaskan skies. The UFO also trailed a United Airlines flight until the flight landed. There was visual confirmation as well as air-based and ground-based radar confirmation.
Who goes on to say that the CIA came, took all the evidence of the incident and said:
"This event never happened, we were never here, we're confiscating all this data, and you're all sworn to secrecy."
.You have theoretical physicist Michio Kaku, (string theory, he's the co-founder). He tells you that we can't discount the fact that aliens may have visited, to think outside of the box, and that 5% of all UFO sightings "Give him the willies".
.You have Seth Shostak, the senior Astronomer at SETI Institute saying we'll find aliens by 2037.
But let's reject it all, because: , OR, - HEADDESK- USA bash much?
Critical thinking needs to evolve and It doesn't sound like YOU'RE objectively analyzing ANYTHING.
I've provided you with the information that compels my reasoning to consider the possibility of ETs, all you've done is badly criticize my thought process,..(without the help of spellcheck I could add), and bash my country of origin in the process.
It took less than a year for everything to come out in the open.
You want me to believe that thousands of men and women have been able to keep their silence and prevent any reliable evidence from coming out for sixty-seven years?? (Assuming, of course, we date from the Roswell event.)
Full disclosure: I've seen a UFO of my own. While living in the woods in Washington state for a time (long story), one night I beheld a large, cigar-shaped craft moving low over the shoulder of Mt. Rainier. I shined a high-powered flashlight at it; its running lights were immediately doused and it moved away.
Three years later, I saw it again - in the pages of Aviation Week, at the local library. It was a dirigible that had been developed by the Soviet Union for the ostensible purpose of making it easier to log on the steep slopes of the Caucausus Range; the author of the article, however, suspected it served double duty as an experimental personnel carrier for mountainous regions like, say, Afghanistan. Turns out that just across Mt. Rainier from my campsite lies the US Army's Yakima Testing Grounds. It seems probable to me that what I saw was a dirigible built to a design taken from Soviet databases, and being tested in the Cascades.
As you can see, a "UFO" can have a clear explanation, if you bother to seek one...
UFO theorists always end up remind me of that aliens guy. "I don't know how to explain this. ALIENS DID IT!" You need to prove it WASN'T done by humans.
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I grew up here. In an area infamously known as the Bridgewater Triangle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgewater_Triangle
About approximately 34 years or so ago, I was about 6 or 7 years old, and asleep at about ten pm-ish at night,(not sure of the time, but it was past my bedtime) My mother, who stays up late a lot, saw a "triangle shaped object" with glowing light in the through a very big window, fly over the house, lighting up the dimly lit TV room, heading towards our wooded back yard.
My mother, woke me, very frightened. It hovered over the trees. I observed light hovering above the woods of our back yard, several yards away. The house lights went out.
The light was VERY bright, almost like looking into the sun, it hurt my eyes. It, (whatever it was) wavered from side to side. I remember that point very vividly. It was HUGE, but back then everything was big to me I guess.
The television had been on before the lights went out and the TV screen went red, it glowed red as all the other colors blinked out. It glowed red for several seconds before it went fully out. It NEVER did that again, and we lost our lights a lot over the years.
I was just a wee one, VERY frightened, mainly because my mother was VERY frightened. We were alone, my father was working nights back then, a second job to make ends meet. I remember VERY vividly the bright glow from the object illuminating my mother's face, the room. I remember the look of fear on her face. That look STILL haunts me.
To this day, I remember the light just as if it happened today, I remember being very afraid, BUT I can't remember how the event ended. Strange huh?
My mother tells me that I fell asleep on the couch with her. She claims to have watched it until it flew away, I must have been hiding my face against her and fell asleep. I can't imagine how in the hell, I could fall asleep either, I was VERY frightened.
The next morning Our neighbors met with my mother, they had all seen the thing too. NO ONE mentioned ANYTHING about aliens. Her neighbors have talked about it to me as an adult.
It was in the papers, I remember my father reading about it and being concerned. I remember being afraid it was going to come back.
Apparently, a lot of people saw it that night. Including a couple of reporters, who happened to be down the street. They have since talked about the incident.
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2013/12/ufo-news-bridgewater-triangle-ufo-news-reporter-wcvb.html
Their sighting happened less than a mile from our house, probably 2-3 miles from my current residence.
Now I can imagine the eye rolls as I type this. It's a VERY woo woo thing to have happen to you. It changes how you look at things, even to this day, I look up at the sky all the time, searching. I don't share this to people I actually know in the REAL world as it were.
NO, we weren't abducted, nothing like that and I've never seen anything like that again and like I said, I was very young at the time. But I tell you with absolute honesty, it felt like the end of the world. That's the best way to describe how it felt to the both of us.
My mother woke me up she tells me, (I've asked her many times since why too) because she was afraid, alone and didn't know if she was going to "Have to flee."
So there you have it folks - Be kind.
and yet you do have people coming forward with papers, film, pictures. etc. but you still say it's not good enough, and it's not proof. So it's a no win. The ETs in one person's report have already said they will not get in the middle of what's going on down here, and they will not just do a circus act to say they are real. You will believe or not believe plan and simple.
I agree a lot of what is seen IS made here by us. I seen a few of those UFOs too. Unmarked planes some painted all midnight black. Yep wish I had a camera for that one too.
Did you have the classic missing time? Maybe you guys were just scanned. Shame there are not pictures of the event, people on here will say you seen swamp gas or something. Not me of course.