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Favourite KDF Ships, and Why?
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I have a KDF-side character that I'm working to run at the end-game. It'd be my first KDF toon capable of play at that level. I'm wondering what everyone's favourite ships are, and why?
I'm a Vet, so I already have the T6 Duvqu' - which I've seen quite a lot of. I'm a pretty big fan of it, having enjoyed putting in my time to master it.
I also used my free-buy token on the Varanus, partly because I desparately needed a sci ship for Admiralty, and also because I like the look/layout of it anyways. So I'm going to have to kit that out for a few runs.
What are the favourites right now? What ships do you feel are a 'must have' for a KDF captain?
I'm a Vet, so I already have the T6 Duvqu' - which I've seen quite a lot of. I'm a pretty big fan of it, having enjoyed putting in my time to master it.
I also used my free-buy token on the Varanus, partly because I desparately needed a sci ship for Admiralty, and also because I like the look/layout of it anyways. So I'm going to have to kit that out for a few runs.
What are the favourites right now? What ships do you feel are a 'must have' for a KDF captain?
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2. Bortasqu' Battlecruiser - it's huge, it's blocky, it's robust....it's so very Klingon in design. Bonus points for the best bridge set in the game! She has a love/hate relationship with the KDF playerbase and I'm in the camp that absolutely loves the ship. And why wouldn't I, she hits like a runaway train even as a T5-U - especially the one with the SA, the 'war' variant. It it very difficult to utilize and has a very unique playstyle that doesn't fit everyone, but if you manage to take a hold of her it's one of the best ships out there.
3. Kor BoP/T6 B'rel - what's a KDF player without a BoP? And because the B'rel is one of the most iconic ships in all of Trek and is gorgeous. And because playing BoPs is playing STO's hard-mode, which is very challenging and rewarding as opposed to taking a nap in an indestructible fortress FAWing everything to oblivion. Plus the freedom of choice in creating unique, yet viable and very fun builds of the all universal seating is awesome. Birds of Prey are difficult, but tons of fun.
4. Kolasi Siege Destroyer/T6 Guramba - because who wouldn't want their own little 'Death Star', amirite?
Personally, I fell in love with the Nausicaan designs and the Guramba, Vandal and Scourge destroyers were the thing that made me switch over to KDF back in the day when we had to have a Federation character first to unlock KDF. My first ever KDF character was a Nausicaan pirate and some 5 years later I'm now mainly a KDF player.
Honorable mentions:
- Tor'kaht/Fleet Vor'cha - even as a T5-U it still is an amazing and very useful ship, plus it's the iconic Vor'cha.
- Fleet K'tinga - same reasons as the Vor'cha.
- T6 Mogh - simply put, one of the best if not the best battlecruiser in the game.
- Krenn Temporal Destroyer/Korath Temporal Science Ship - yes, it's lockbox and very hard and/or expensive to get one, plus it's "only" T5-U.....but in all honesty, both are simply amazing ships, they're awesome preforming and very Klingon looking at heart which is the No.1 most important thing for me.
- Ty'Gokor Command Battlecruiser - the command battlecruisers in general, cross-faction, are some of the best ships in STO. The tactical variants in particular, such as the Ty'Gokor here, I found out to be ships that preform amazingly and have no issues getting 1-st places in PvE constantly while at the same time managing to heal & support allies and never going below 75% hull. I'd also highly recommend them as a pack/bundle.
- Hegh'ta Bird of Prey - sure, it's kinda obsolete now and unfortunately has no T5-U ability, but it has been my favorite BoP design in STO since forever and hey, getting one is absolutely free! Even in the T6 era of today I take mine out every now and then, it can be played with good gear and a good dose of dedication. I still hold out hopes that they'll use the skin for another T6 BoP, it really is good looking.
i like the kor or brel t5u also but if your a primary fed player i doubt you will like it.
for a science officer i use the Kamarang also t5u fleet ship like the tork but it drops a tac officer slot in favor of a science slot so you use grav well with it. a rare find back in the day for kdf side on a cruiser.
but im biased i refuse to fly non faction and non klingon designed ships. so none of tha alien garbage or made up stuff are used for anything other than traits then stowed .
Been hearing great things about this ship for a long time now. I may just break down and get one. I could use another T6 ship anyway. What are the appearance options if any?
I mean, the Pilot Escorts are the ultimate Escorts. You don'T need any other after them. But I am not that fond of their looks.
The Kor and the Neg'Tev are decent looking ships, but I kinda am not that excited about them anymore, don't know why.
Maybe I would be about a Vor'Cha.
Note that I am just referring to the class names, but I would probably kitbash the heck out of them if I can.
I kinda wish the Tier 6 Nausicaan ship was one of the lower iter Nausicaan ships. I like the Gurumba and Kolasi only really in siege mode.
None. Well, of course, Material choice, Pattern and Colors. But no alternate parts, no mixing and matching.
Yeah, me too because I'm none too fond of the way it looks. The nacelles look too big for the body. Like you, I'm hoping beyond hope for a T6 Vor'cha and/or K'tinga. I have more hope for the Vor'cha coming into being than the K'tinga though. Time will tell.
I play a Gorn and they are just thematic!!
Hoping for a T6 Gorn counter to the new Jupiter.
I think it's overrated, personally. Don't get me wrong, it's a very strong and capable ship. But many ships can be strong and capable, what it lacks is style and flexibility, IMO. Minimal customization options--no tailor parts alternatives at all, only materials; and it's not exactly the most attractive looking ship, to put it nicely, unless you're somehow into the Qib-type aesthetic. Only Lt Science which is also the hybrid seat, so you're not getting much in terms of interesting abilities with this one. I, frankly, get rather bored with it fairly easily. If all you want to do is pew-pew, then it'll satisfy you with its 5/2 weapons loadout, and plentiful tac console slots and tac boff seating. But if you want tricksy cloak shenanigans, space magic, or hybrid seating you can properly take advantage of, then you'll find this one rather dull, I suspect.
Only reason I got it was because it came with a number of other ships for $10 in a recent promotion.
The Klavek (Science) Pilot Raptor or the new T6 Kor BoP both look much more interesting to me, overall, but I haven't yet used them.
Can't argue with those top 2. The Mat'Ha looked pretty solid when it was announced. I've been a huge fan of its Republic counterpart, the Aelahl. Might have to take a closer look at that one. And the mastery trait is of course epic.
Any idea if the freebie Fleet Bortasqu' has the bridge set, or is it just the C-Store variants? I was thinking this would be a good complement to the Duvqu' Destroyer anyways. If I were to go C-Store, I'd probably hit up the War variant with the BoP pet - or wait for the inevitable T6.
Same for the most part. Don't like a lot of the non-faction / cross-faction ships, so I'll stick within the Empire's fleet for sure. Although I'll include Orion, Gorn, and Nausicaan in that mix.
If I go escort, I'm more likely to go for a BoP than a traditional escort-type. Never liked that gameplay much, although this toon's an eng so I might be able to pump some more lifespan out of anything at this point. I have a Pilot on the Republic side, but I can't imagine flying one without the singularity saves. That's just my own playstyle, though - I think I'm in the minority regarding not being sold on the Pilot ships.
Can't say I really love this one for the stats. It's more for the feeling. What shpoks said, the Hegh'ta. I'm no much of a PVPer but when I'm fighting against someone in that bird I can see why someone does love PVP. I like to call BoPs knife dancers and when you're flying right you can really hear the music.
1. Please note that the Mat'Ha is not the counterpart of the Aelahl, I'm not quite sure what you meant by that - however those two are completely different ships in terms of how they play, you can check & compare them on the STO Wiki. They just happened to be released together/at the same time for the DR/T6 launch.
2. Pretty sure that the freebie Bortasqu' doesn't have the awesome bridge set - it used to have one of the huge Klingon bridges that are a part of one of the C-Store bridge packs for the KDF now (although I do believe that the freebie Bortasqu' particular variant of the bridge from that set is made available to use for free from the ship customization for any KDF player regardless of owning the ship).
The epic looking bridge set that can be visited on the I.K.S. Bortasqu' during the 'Day of Honor' is tied to the C-Store Bortasqu' purchases, so you'd have to own at least one to be able to use it and it can only be used on a Bortasqu' class ship just as the 'Aquarius' bridge set can be used only on Odyssey class ships.
I'm not sure what I'd recommend at this particular moment, I have both the Bortasqu' and Odyssey bundles (don't have the Scimitar since I'm not a fan of that one) and I'm very satisfied by both, however at this point I'd say T6 variants of each are a given and I'm not sure how feasible getting a T5 one would be under those circumstances.
My personal estimate is that we'll see T6 variants of the flagships for Star Trek's 50-th anniversary next year, so take that as you will.
I've just started playing around with BoP with the release of the Kor, and I am very happy with her as well.
But as I started the Mat'Ha is the perfect balance of offense and survivability for my taste. Even purchased the Hirogen Heavy Hunter just to put the 180 degree turn console on her. Running that with her spinal cannon console and Coalition Disruptors is very satisfying.
The Mat'Ha is the one ship I break my rule of not using the same ship on more than one toon (Other than for learning mastery's) on. Heck her Mastery isn't all that, but a great platform for the Mastery from the Kor.
She also looks Fantastic on my Toon that also uses a Jem HEC & JHDC, with the effects from the Jem Hadar Set.
I really hope to see a MU variant with Pilot Hybrid swapped in, no matter the cost. Just to play with Lock Trajectory on her.
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Love the Negh'var, it's tough and fun to fly as well as the fact it's intimidating
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Love the design of the 22nd Century Bird of prey, it's beautiful
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Goodscotch summed up the K'tinga very well in a earlier post
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Ah the Vor'cha, fun ship to fly and very quick as well as resilient. Design wise I like the TNG take on the classic K'tinga and D-7 classes
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Love the design on the B'rel, an iconic ship with many different variants
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Well first, let me get the big one out of the way. In terms of Escort play, NOTHING out there beats the Pilot Escorts. Of ANY faction. I can make a huge post alone why but not this time. They are the best Escorts in the game.
Since you have the T6 Veteran DD, that's also a very solid choice. It's pretty flexible and does the job quite well. Having Battle Cloak is a big luxury. It also, IMO, looks great.
Battlecruisers? The best performers IMO are the Intel Qib and T6 Mogh. The T6 Mogh is a flexible, powerful, 5/3 brute. The Qib is stupidly flexible in BOFF layout, ranks with the T5 K'T'Inga as the best handling KDF Battlecruiser, has Gather Intel for debuffing, and is the only Cruiser styled ship outside the Roms with a Battle Cloak. I'm not fond of how the Qib looks, but IMO, it's the best KDF TAC Cruiser.
Important mention: The TAC Command FDC has the very nice "All Hands On Deck" mastery trait. Personally I'm not fond of the Command FDCs. But that trait is among the best in the game.
Science Vessels: I'm loathe to recommend a KDF SCI Vessel because they're old, outdated. The Veranus has just been mediocre for a long time now. The DSDs are there if you want a TAC leaning SCI Vessel at Tier 5. They're merely serviceable for the job. We have none at T6.
Carriers: KDF Carrier selection had fallen behind for a while now also. They're still decent. The Vo'Quv, Mirror Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi are excellent Carriers in their own ways with offensive capability that Fed Carrier players are jealous of. Mirror Vo'Quv isn't upgradable to T5U though but it used to have a strong, loyal following in the KDF. If only the Vo'Quv and Kar'Fi were out as T6 ships...
BOPs: As it stands now, the T6 B'Rel is it. It's T6, has as many BOFF skill count as the T5 Fleet Norgh. But Fleet Norgh paid for a full 12 skill count by having -1 console slot. But the B'Rel retains full console count.
I just meant that the 'regular' ships they released alongside the Intel ones seemed to be real winners - the Guardian, the Aelahl, and the Mat'Ha. Those first non-refit T6s were pretty solid.
Probably, yeah. They teased 'something' happening to the Oddy in one of the Utpoia Planitia reports, so the flagships will all get refits at some point. But I've still bought T5s even since T6 became a thing, so the existing Bortasqu' is still on my list of targets to throw money at regardless. Plus, the T6 Bort will probably still have a detachable pet, and not having the War Bort's console to use the BoP will just make the thing feel silly.
I should really be looking at that thing as well... ack, my wallet.
Playing a control game, and then watching someone rip your control setup apart with a tractor repulsor or something similar is just a pain. ISA is a prime example. If someone's trapped the Nanites at the gate, there's no reason for someone else to swoop in and push.
It's what I'm using right now, and it's a solid performer. Only thing I'm not a fan of is a somewhat squishy hull, but I'm usually a cruiser player so that's just a point-of-view thing for me.
Intel's the spec that I've stayed the farthest away from - something about it just never reached out and hugged me. Even when Intel was first released, I ended up saving all my spec points for the next tree. And with that having been Command, I had no regrets.
Mogh is impressive. That's on my watch list as well.
The KDF-side Command ships got the short end of the stick. With how many other seriously violent looking ships there are in the fleet, the Command cruisers look like flying blocks.
Put dyson shield on, it can look a bit like Daedalus(edit... I named the wrong shiplol) from star gate
and then normal they just look like klingons
they are all fleet quality.... very good deal for pretty much all the ships I like in sf stuffs
Ah, well in that regard - I agree. Those 3 ships are rock solid releases and still are the best non-specialized 'regular' ships of their respective factions. The only one being challenged is the Guardian by the T6 Galaxy Class, but that's about it. I still consider the Mat'Ha and Aelahl the leading non-specialized ships for the KDF & RR.
Yeah, I can relate - I've also got T5 ships that I wanted but didin't manage to get before T6 was released, but I still wanted them nonetheless. The latest one being the T5 MVAE because I really liked what they did with the Prometheus remodel and I got the T6 one, but the console was is on the T5 variant. And what is a Prometheus without the MVAE ability?
Worth noting is that I'm "one of those people" that usually uses all the unique consoles that come with a ship for thematic and flavor reasons, because to me fun/flavor/theme >>> DPS or any current meta.
Well then, as one mostly cruiser player to another - you really want to check out the Command Cruisers if you don't already have some of them, they are hands down the most complete ships in the game for any content as I mentioned in my Ty'Gokor 'honorable mention'.
In terms of Romulans, I consider the Command Warbirds the apex of what is available for Romulan players at T6. Plus, they really are beautiful - my Romulan was set to never leave the T'Varo, but the Baratan design with Vastam stats did just that. That bird is gorgeous.
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In terms of design yes, they're kinda' too blocky and weird although the Ty'Gokor is a fairly good looking design. Then again I also have a thing for flying blocks/bricks.
P.S. One thing to mention, that warmaker001b reminded me of, is the Qib Inel Battlecruiser. When I made my list of favorite ships, I picked them up based on a mix of both design preferences and performance. And while she doesn't have that much in the design department, performance-wise it's a top notch ship. Very few things can beat a battlecloaking battlecruiser. Though, I still find the Qib as the only 'Intel' design even remotely acceptable to me design-wise.
Ended up getting the War Bort to start with. I figure it's a big, beastly cruiser. It flies much like a sky-high targ- laid back, and not willing to do anything too quickly. But it packs a punch. And dat bridge, yo! I started playing just after they ran the last faction days, so I never actually got to see that set yet. That is... impressive
Definitely being tempted by a few others in the thread, for sure. I'll probably see how much dil-to-ZEN I can save up in time for the inevitable Boxing Day sale.
Congrats on your purchase, I'd have to agree the Bort has the most gaga-effect bridge Klingon side.
But to answer the main question;
That's my top 3.
Congrats on your purchase, I hope she serves you just as well as she's been serving me ever since the summer of 2012.
My favourite ship of all time KDF side is the Orion T5U Corsair. It looks great and has a nice balance between engineering and science abilities which suits my play style. Plus it has a hanger.
The new command cruisers effectively replaced it stats wise, but they don't look anywhere near as good. So it's a slightly hollow love I have for the T6 FDCs.
The Kor has surprisingly lasted a long while for me. I dislike lightweight ships generally, but the play style for this is so unique and challenging. Frustrating at times due to paper hull, but so rewarding when you get it right.
A truely and uniquely KDF experience. Roms can come close to replication, but all uni seats makes the BoP special.
Matha is ok but the pilot escorts do everything better and can zip about more. Pilot ships over Matha any day imo.
Gratz of the Bort purchase though. I do like the look of the bort, very Klingon and oozes flagship grandeur.
It doesn't help that certain parts of the KDF Command FDCs have old and new graphical glitches. The windows issue is something I have reported since the ships came out. 'Lo and behold, the exact same issue still persists. Only now more stuff is graphically broken.
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