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Requesting T6 Vorcha Plz
andyxvers2
Member Posts: 122 Arc User
i'd like to request a T6 Vorcha Class
and maybe if we could add Kamarang Ship costume to it, that would be cool as well.
and maybe if we could add Kamarang Ship costume to it, that would be cool as well.
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I second this, I've got a captain who recently finished grinding t6 traits and went back to his fleet vor'cha, I've bumped the turn rate and innertia so much through gear and traits that im swinging it around like an escort now. its fun as hell and I'd love a T6 variant.
D-7 / K'T'Inga - T5
B'Rel - T5 and T6 very soon
Vor'Cha - T5
Negh'Var - T5 and T6 already
2 of the 4 canon Klingon ships have made it or are about to make it to T6. Vor'Cha I believe is a shoe-in to make it sometime, most especially since it is a newer design than the D-7 / K'T'Inga.
My prediction? The T6 Sovereign and Vor'Cha will release at the same time. Both the Sovereign-class and Vor'Cha-class are the last of the big name, significant Cruisers of Starfleet and the Klingons that have to be converted.
The D-7 / K'T'Inga's future is cloudy because it is very old. It was already quite old during the Dominion War which was decades before STO's 25th century setting. I won't complain if the D-7 / K'T'Inga make it to T6 but I'll be surprised if it does. If it DOES make it to T6? Man, the Feds and Roms are going to be pissed! Where's the T6 Connie? Where's the Romulan D-7!
I quite agree with you there, pairing it with a sovvie T6 makes the most sense, both are semi comparable in ability as well which helps that case.
You also forgot one canon ship. although it was only seen in one episode of Enterprise the Somraw Raptor at T2 (with a T5 and T5F version available) is canon. Course its design is older than the D7 in universe so that's just as debatable.
well they released a T6 Excelsior, so anything is possible i guess
I'd love a T6 Vor'cha & Heavy Cruiser. Both are maneuverable Cruisers I could see with a lt Pilot/Hybrid.
We've seen plenty of examples of T5 to T6 revamps now so since I have an hour to kill at work with nothing to do I figured I'd mock up what i think the stats of a T6 Vor'cha might be, using the fleet T5 as the base point.
T6 Vorcha Battlecruiser
Hull: 45,500 (50,000 at fleet) (rounded numbers for ease of example)
Shield Mod 1.0 (1.1 at fleet)
Weapons: 4/4, Can equip dual cannons
Crew: 1500
Boffs: Cmdr Engineer, Lt Cmdr Tactical/Pilot, Lt Universal, Lt Tactical, Lt Engineer (this is what I might expect)
Alternative Boffs: Cmdr Engineer, Lt Cmdr Tactical, Lt Cmdr Universal/Pilot , Lt Tactical, Ens Engineer (what I might hope for/prefer)
Device Slots: 3
Consoles: 4 Tactical, 4 Engineering (5 at fleet), 2 Science
(Would prefer a 5th tac sure but the T5-U token gives it engi and that's how the conversions have worked so far)
Base Turn: 10
Impulse Mod: 0.15
Inertia Rating: 30
Bonus Power: +10 Weapons +10 Engines
Standard Cloak
Cruiser commands:
-Strategic Maneuvering
-Shield Frequency Modulation
-Weapons Systems Efficiency
Now all of that is pretty par for the course for a T6 re-release, couple options presented for the boff layout since that's the most malleable of the stats to buff.
The real speculation comes with the mastery trait and console. Which if its included in a cross faction pack which is to be expected, the trait and console may very much depend on what gimmick they want to give the fed ship (sovereign refit if it was up to me, rommies would probably need a brand new ship as the only analogue for this style they have left is already T6 for the arbiter/mogh pack)
So what gimmick has the sovereign shown in the movies that has yet to make it into game. Wide angle Quantum is there. Metreon gas is there. Manual flight stick, that's the rational for giving it pilot. An anti-cloak Fire At Will clicky based on their performance in Nemesis maybe. Captains yacht launchable pet comparative to the Aeroshuttle or Aquarius?
The FAW could even be a mastery trait potentially, modifying the FAW power with a chance to hit cloaked ships, this would easily be usable as a cross faction trait and since most NPC's don't cloak Cryptic can rest easy knowing they haven't given canon ships a must have trait. (I may be a little cynical)
Now the launchable captains yacht, at first glance most people might say this couldn't work for the Vorcha. Something I read a long time ago and may be mis-remembering though is the Mission pod on the Vorcha was supposed to be a detachable scout ship, never seen on screen of course but I believe it was listed in a technical manual.
The advantage of the rommies needing a new ship of course is that whatever console or trait is applied they can build the ship to fit it.
Anyway those are my thoughts, and my time at work has ended so I'm headed home to give my new Kor a spin.
id like to see one with
lt.cmdr -tac
lt.cmdr -eng
lt.cmdr -sci
lt.cmdr-uni/intel
en -tac
4 engineer slots
3 science slots
4 tac slots
4 fore weapons 4 aft weapons
NO HANGER BAY
battle cloak
science ship sensor package
secondary deflector
That would be the first T6 ship I've seen without a full commander boff. I wouldn't get it.
ahh i know it don't have a commander seat and kinda why i did it like that. no way feds would cry about us having it. but for my play-style it would fulfill everything i ever wanted out of a vorcha, because we all know we will not get commander sci station or tac station. and commander skill in engineering ( what we always get on a battle cruiser isn't that great anyways.
if you can look past what you think is a flaw and start looking at the possibilities compared to any other kdf battle cruiser you might come around.
narthais
how is any conversation about balance even remotely applicable these days in this game ?
But i would agree to me that is the OP seating arrangement beating out anything i have seen in the game to date.
i just see all these posting about ideal boff seating and back in the day people loved the seating on the MOGH compared to the torkaht . i just never seen it, all the mogh had going for it was the 5th fore weapon but cant run 5 cannon up front because of the buggy firing cycles if you add in the 5th. everything else the Vorcha had it beat on . of every new ship since fleet ships came into the game the Tork and the pilot sci raptor and kor are the only purchases i have been happy with. everything EVERYTHING else was junk or just there for the trait grinder.
I never even went so far as to say it's a flaw, just that I wouldn't get it. If I seemed hostile it was not intentional.
As for what the Fed-trolls would squeal like pigs over, take any ship that gets borked in 3 ways and enhanced in just 1 and they are live pigs on a rotisserie over the 1 enhanced aspect of it. There's just no getting around it.
Those fit the role of what an imaginary T6 Vorcha would be, to a T.
and it also canon for the vorcha skin to be in the future for the kdf . back to the Enterprise Archer/Daniels time travel episode vorcha was clearly in battle even in our distant future.
The Mat'Ha is a raptor, not a battlecruiser.
How do you figure? One ship is a raptor class with 200 crew...the other is a battlecruiser with 1500 crew.
It's not uncommon for different ship designs taking ques from others. The KDF's Raptors, Battlecruisers share many common appearances, yet they are different. They retain the traditional central hull with wings jutting out to the side and nacelles at the end. You have the Pilot Raptors taking the "double prong saucer" approach also.
In addition, the Matha is a Cmdr TAC ship with a 5/2 weapons layout. The Fleet T5U Vor'Cha is a Cmdr ENG ship with Cruiser Commands (Battlecruiser subset) and a 4/4 weapons layout. I'm 99% sure that when a T6 Vor'Cha comes out, it would follow and evolve from the Fleet T5U Vor'Cha's stats.
copying my line from other T6 Vor'cha topic:
considering the rate cryptic is pumping out new ships, I would not be surprised.
New specs tree (strategy) coming up - probably with new abilities, ie: tons of new ships.
Using an older model will both be efficient and wanted by the Players.
KDF: 2 tacs, 2 engs, 3 scis
KDF Roms: 3 tacs, 1 eng, 1 scis
FED: 2 tacs, 1 eng, 2 scis
TOS: 1 tac
all on T5 rep (up to temporal)
all have mastered Intel tree (and some more specs Points)
highest DPS: 60.982
Going by past release history, the actual, "Strategy" Specialization ships (i.e. Cmdr Hybrid stations) will not be retreads of a previous ship but will be completely new ships. The Specialization Ships, i.e. Intel, Command, Pilot Ships were all new designs for STO. Still that won't mean that subsequent T6 "Strategy" ships without the Cmdr Hybrid stations won't come out.
KDF: 2 tacs, 2 engs, 3 scis
KDF Roms: 3 tacs, 1 eng, 1 scis
FED: 2 tacs, 1 eng, 2 scis
TOS: 1 tac
all on T5 rep (up to temporal)
all have mastered Intel tree (and some more specs Points)
highest DPS: 60.982
Correct. Though they did transition to T6 and got a Hybrid Station, none were full fledged, Specialization ships with Cmdr Hybrids. Most especially so the canon ships, none of them at any of the playable factions have Cmdr Hybrids. That's not too bad though I'd prefer the Cmdr Hybrid for a lot more flexibility and being able to be fully committed to that Specialization. But some of the LtCmdr Hybrids are still pretty powerful.