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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    I don't recall the class name, but in the Technical Manual (way back in the '70s) the ship above was supposed to be a tug, as Starfleet at the time was conceived as a combination military force and merchant-marine service. Large cargo containers could be attached between the nacelles, on the underside of the saucer section.

    I can see that, I'd love to get my hooves on a TOS TM but those are super rare, I can't even get hold of a pdf. But the concept makes sense, the Miranda itself is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none kind of ship, able to perform combat as well as supply and survey runs.​​

    Here you go

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sftm.php
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    khan5000 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    I don't recall the class name, but in the Technical Manual (way back in the '70s) the ship above was supposed to be a tug, as Starfleet at the time was conceived as a combination military force and merchant-marine service. Large cargo containers could be attached between the nacelles, on the underside of the saucer section.

    I can see that, I'd love to get my hooves on a TOS TM but those are super rare, I can't even get hold of a pdf. But the concept makes sense, the Miranda itself is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none kind of ship, able to perform combat as well as supply and survey runs.​​

    Here you go

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sftm.php

    Class 1 Dreadnought Cruiser. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/sftm/01-04-24.jpg

    Truly evil. :o
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    khan5000 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    I don't recall the class name, but in the Technical Manual (way back in the '70s) the ship above was supposed to be a tug, as Starfleet at the time was conceived as a combination military force and merchant-marine service. Large cargo containers could be attached between the nacelles, on the underside of the saucer section.

    I can see that, I'd love to get my hooves on a TOS TM but those are super rare, I can't even get hold of a pdf. But the concept makes sense, the Miranda itself is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none kind of ship, able to perform combat as well as supply and survey runs.​​

    Here you go

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sftm.php

    Class 1 Dreadnought Cruiser. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/sftm/01-04-24.jpg

    Truly evil. :o

    I think there's even a book featuring that one - entitled, appropriately enough, "Dreadnought!" ...if I remember correctly, it's also a semi-sequel to TOS "Miri"...

    And people wondered where the design for the 'Anti-Time" Enterprise-D/Galaxy-X Dreadnought came from....
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    I just realized that's not the whole book but just the diagrams. I couldn't find and online version but Amazon has a few
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    khan5000 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    I don't recall the class name, but in the Technical Manual (way back in the '70s) the ship above was supposed to be a tug, as Starfleet at the time was conceived as a combination military force and merchant-marine service. Large cargo containers could be attached between the nacelles, on the underside of the saucer section.

    I can see that, I'd love to get my hooves on a TOS TM but those are super rare, I can't even get hold of a pdf. But the concept makes sense, the Miranda itself is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none kind of ship, able to perform combat as well as supply and survey runs.​​

    Here you go

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sftm.php

    Hey, I remember that one. :) My sister bought me one for my 13th birthday. She got me that book and the Enterprise blueprints. I remember thinking, at the time, that it was my best birthday ever. :smiley: I'm sure I still have it somewhere. Probably with all of the other manuals I picked up over the years. I like Michael Okuda's manuals best, though. He was, and is, a true Trekkie with an eye for detail.

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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    I guess that's why we got no end game connie.......cause somebody thinks it's the devil? :open_mouth: LoL

    Probably Starfleet Command, circa 2268 or so - after all, they're the ones who had to deal with all the reports of Kirk's... shenanigans, shall we say...

    Seriously though, it makes sense if one considers that even though STO classifies them both as 'Light Cruisers', in TOS/the movies, while the Miranda was a 'Light Cruiser', the Constitution-class was a 'Starship' or full 'Cruiser', so it'd have just that touch more to it.

    NCC 1701 Frigate Class. Any warp capable vessel is considered a "starship". The only cruisers in TOS, were Klingon battlecruisers.



    The Constitution was considered a heavy cruiser in it's heyday.

    By whom?

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sftm.php

    This was a manual that Roddenberry approved at the time
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    I guess that's why we got no end game connie.......cause somebody thinks it's the devil? :open_mouth: LoL

    Probably Starfleet Command, circa 2268 or so - after all, they're the ones who had to deal with all the reports of Kirk's... shenanigans, shall we say...

    Seriously though, it makes sense if one considers that even though STO classifies them both as 'Light Cruisers', in TOS/the movies, while the Miranda was a 'Light Cruiser', the Constitution-class was a 'Starship' or full 'Cruiser', so it'd have just that touch more to it.

    NCC 1701 Frigate Class. Any warp capable vessel is considered a "starship". The only cruisers in TOS, were Klingon battlecruisers.



    The Constitution was considered a heavy cruiser in it's heyday.

    By whom?

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sftm.php

    This was a manual that Roddenberry approved at the time
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    This post had a transporter malfunction and produced a twin
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    The "Star Fleet Technical Manual" we've just been talking about, for one...

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/sftm/01-04-10.jpg

    "Class I Heavy Cruiser - Constitution Class Starships".
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited November 2015
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    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
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