I suck at luck things

mayito2009

I opened 20 xindi terrestrial boxes and got squat, no kemocite, got 1 ship that looks like a hotdog on a bun oozing mustard from the portholes (Malon battlecruiser I think). 1thing of six [Dilithium Mining Claims], 15 packages of RD items and 3 ship weapons. Wow that was money wasted down the drain.

rattler2

I'm with ya there. My luck also stinks. The Random Number Gods rarely smile upon us.

szim

Never expect anything good out of lockbox. Gambling can only exist because most people lose more than they gain.

warmaker001b

Mark my words: When the new Lockbox officially are in the game, expect to see many threads about guys spending hundreds and hundreds of $$$ and not get the ship they want. Every new Lockbox release is like that for a good while.

seriousdave

warmaker001b wrote: »

Mark my words: When the new Lockbox officially are in the game, expect to see many threads about guys spending hundreds and hundreds of $$$ and not get the ship they want. Every new Lockbox release is like that for a good while.

Yes, will be a funny time again.

rattler2

Meanwhile all the other shiny will drop in price on the Exchange for the rest of us. We win by default.

lianthelia

Never worked for me either...RNG hates me...in every game.

Only time I ever won a ship was the one time I actually wasn't opening boxes for the ship...I was just doing it for Lobi with the free keys I got from my LoR pack.

hypl

15 R&D packs? Wow. I usually get junk but at least it's more varied than this...

kyrrok

Lockbox ships are nothing to me. Lottery ships in R&D packs and the like are even less. Especially if something goes wrong and a toon is either deleted (by intention, mistake, or the game itself just deleting it) or bugged to the point where you can't even use that toon any more, any major investment in that regards especially if you win, are reduced to trash.

If I come across any lobi ships that interest me, I might rack up enough to get it but right now, no.

bobbydazlers

your better off if you sell the keys and save the EC towards the ships when they hit the exchange.

davefenestrator

Never open a lock box unless you need lobi for something that is not on the exchange. Even for lobi ships it's usually better to sell the keys for EC and buy them off the exchange.

semalda226

I once tried to sacrifice a virgin to the RNG gods to improve my luck but they refused it on the grounds that I'm me....

gulberat

davefenestrator wrote: »

Never open a lock box unless you need lobi for something that is not on the exchange. Even for lobi ships it's usually better to sell the keys for EC and buy them off the exchange.

The only time I would differ from that is if you really value MANY other items in the boxes besides the ship--as in, you are unlikely to be disappointed and opening the boxes will serve a clear and easily achievable objective without the ship. Depending on what you get however, and how many you open, you are still in danger of not breaking even.

davefenestrator

^ sure, if you can use Fleet credits AND lobi AND R&D packs AND... then opening boxes might make sense.

lianthelia

semalda226 wrote: »

I once tried to sacrifice a virgin to the RNG gods to improve my luck but they refused it on the grounds that I'm me....

Pfff...yeah right...you lie to the goods...there is no such thing as a virgin in this day and age unless you're like 10

dracounguis

Last ship I got from a box was the JHAS from the Xmas 'gift box' (aka 1st lockbox before they were called lockboxes). I've not even gotten a Rare MU ship from a box.

davefenestrator

I got a couple of Hazari raiders that used to be worth under 100K EC before the Admiralty gold rush.

tempus64

When the "good" items drop at typically < 3%, why anyone would think they'd get something good opening 20 boxes just perplexes me. Open boxes to just get the lobi and be very pleased when the RNG gods smile on you with something decent.

lucho80

Only good things I ever pulled from a lockbox was a Plasmonic Leech console and Inspirational Leader trait. Not worth playing that lottery.

lianthelia

lucho80 wrote: »

Only good things I ever pulled from a lockbox was a Plasmonic Leech console and Inspirational Leader trait. Not worth playing that lottery.

I actually got a leech console as well from those keys...but I ended up using it on a Fed Rom...so yeah the only time I've gotten the big prizes is when I never cared about the prizes at all. >.<

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seaofsorrows

wardcalis wrote: »

I got the xindi aquatic carrier on my 2nd box

I have always had horrible luck with boxes, I rarely open them.

I decided the other day to just do a $10 donation to STO and bought some keys. Got the Xindi Olaen on my 3rd try.. I was shocked.

It truly is random.. overall though, I agree with others that for the most part it's not worth it. In most cases you're better off selling the keys and buying what you want off the exchange. I happened to get lucky this one time, but I'm sure if I bought a hundred more keys I would never again get another ship I wanted. I have used all my luck in that one pull.. I'm done.

cbrjwrr

Use lockboxes on the basis you are buying 4 Lobi Crystals; anything else is a bonus.

So far I tend to have pretty good luck with these things. Out of the ten or so RNG things (total of everything, I don't like RNG) I've opened, I made a massive profit on some of them, broke even on others, and got other things that weren't what I would have liked but were good all the same, and only lost on a few, which is a good haul; one lockbox opened a Dil claim pack, so that paid for itself nicely way back when Dil:Zen was between 120:1 and 130:1(anyone else remember those days?)

But then stuff that involves RNG for doffs has generally been bad - the major exception was the Gamma Doff giveaway, where I got Doffs worth 1.3 million EC. But, overall I'm up by about 5-6 million - I got very lucky with a Coalition Disruptor pack that dropped a [crtd]x3 beam array, which sold for 12 million EC. And despite promising myself I wouldn't spend it all, I managed to spend it all equipping my less equipped alts with hordes of blue doffs...

But really, the thing to do is to buy whatever it is you want from the exchange - especially when the lockbox is current - final price on the exchange is the vast majority of the time lower than the cost equivalent of using whatever resource it takes to get the item, because as the volume of supply on the exchange increases the prices come down to below expected cost due to competition and the RNG working in favour of some people who get the desired item way before you could reasonably expect the item based on a binomial probability distribution. (a lockbox ship's odds are generally 0.5%, but that is by no means the same as saying you'll get one for opening 250 boxes. Open 10,000 boxes and you'll probably get an approximation to 1:250, but it is still not guaranteed you will get even one)

deleroux

mayito2009 wrote: »

Wow that was money wasted down the drain.

You had to open 20 lockboxes to discover this? I, and common sense could have told you as much for free.

seaofsorrows

Whenever I buy keys to open boxes (rarely) I consider it a donation to help keep the game I enjoy alive. I automatically consider that money 'donated' and expect to get absolutely nothing in return except my continued entertainment value obtained from playing the game.

Anything I might get from the actual boxes is a lucky bonus.

The only other time I buy keys is when I need some fast EC to make a purchase. I never, ever expect to get anything from a lockbox, doing so only invites disappointment.