TNG and to a lesser extent DS9 were chronically lazy about reusing ship models for different things. Yall argue like this is a franchise known for continuity and originality like B5
Cryptic seems to have decided they can't follow that model of laziness, probably because it would be way too obvious.
Sorry, that's total BS, they may have used the same model for the Science and the SCOUT ship (NOT the shuttle), but it does not mean that they have the same size, and talking about the scale, they (cryptic) have done the same thing with the defiant and DS9 (and maybe a few others) we have a half dozend different canonical scales of the same model, they took the conveniant one and added it to the game, i don't see the big problem here with the science ship (maybe a crytic apologist has another point of view, but if that is the case i think we can agree that we disagree here).
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The lazy thing was that TNG decided to take a Romulan Shuttle model, alter it a bit, and suddenly claim it's a ship that can carry a crew of 73+.
Again, they didn't. The Shuttle was seen in 'In the Pale Moonlight'. They modified the scout ship, a ship with no determined size at all.
Pkus the Yeager was seen so far back all that could be made out about it was that it was an Intrepid with wing like plyons. There's no reason why Cryptic would have to use Marquis Raider parts at all.
They would have every reason to do so, because that's the model used in the show, and if they don't use the model from the show, why even bother?
Or are you as the resident Yeager fan telling me you would be happy with an artistic reinterpretation of the Yeager? Are you sure all others Yeager fans agree with that?
Cryptic seems to have decided they can't follow that model of laziness, probably because it would be way too obvious.
Sorry, that's total BS, they may have used the same model for the Science and the SCOUT ship (NOT the shuttle), but it does not mean tha0t they have the same size,
You seem to be misunderstanding me. Of course the Romulan Scout ship and that Science Vessel are unlikely to be meant having the same size. But Cryptic didn't use the same model and scale it up once. It's the B'Rel vs K'Vort situation - same model (just a different wing position at best), but different sizes. Cryptic decided to have the ship only at exactly one size, because everything else seems silly.
The Scout Vessel was first seen in "The Enemy" and later in "THe Defector", and they seemed definitely smaller than the Science Vessel from "The Next Phase", since in the first two cases the crews seemed to be one or two persons only.
and talking about the scale, they (cryptic) have done the same thing with the defiant and DS9 (and maybe a few others) we have a half dozend different canonical scales of the same model, they took the conveniant one and added it to the game, i don't see the big problem here with the science ship (maybe a crytic apologist has another point of view, but if that is the case i think we can agree that we disagree here).
There aren't two DS9s in this game, one called "Deep Space Nine" and the other "Com Substation 42", with the latter being 1/5th size of the the Deep Space Nine.
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Unless you put your words in erotic format, none of these morons will agree with you let alone understand a damn thing you're actually trying to state.
The lazy thing was that TNG decided to take a Romulan Shuttle model, alter it a bit, and suddenly claim it's a ship that can carry a crew of 73+.
Again, they didn't. The Shuttle was seen in 'In the Pale Moonlight'. They modified the scout ship, a ship with no determined size at all.
Pkus the Yeager was seen so far back all that could be made out about it was that it was an Intrepid with wing like plyons. There's no reason why Cryptic would have to use Marquis Raider parts at all.
They would have every reason to do so, because that's the model used in the show, and if they don't use the model from the show, why even bother?
Or are you as the resident Yeager fan telling me you would be happy with an artistic reinterpretation of the Yeager? Are you sure all others Yeager fans agree with that?
Yes I would. The ships people buy are the ones they saw on the shows (the canon ones anyway) what did we see of the Yeager onscreen? Intrepid hull and nacelles and some sort of long angled pylons. Let Cryptic use their artistic license.
The Scout Vessel was first seen in "The Enemy" and later in "THe Defector", and they seemed definitely smaller than the Science Vessel from "The Next Phase", since in the first two cases the crews seemed to be one or two persons only.
They share very little. The have a different head section and rear section the wings are upside down and angled the opposite way. The only superficial thing they share is the nacelles (that the also share with the D'D). They're no more the same ship than the Negh'Var and Vor'Cha are despite the Vor hull being turned upside down to make the Negh.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
A fleet KR (D7) cruiser would be awesome. Wouldn't mind a KFR (KDF B'rel) either, but would settle for a Fleet T-5u or T6 MU Ha'Feh. Romulans are MUCH more interesting once you get out of the canon restraints.
ive always seen Romulans as more tac sci with klingons more of tact eng and starfleet eng sci so im very surprised that Romulans have almost no Science ships.
I love my Vesta class and id love something similar for romulans.
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For what it's worth I view the Ha'nom as the second-best T5 science ship in the game, being on par with a fleet recon sci when you first get it, and that's before T5U and Fleet upgrades.
But I'd totally endorse a new, sleeker, Vesta-esque warbird for them. The whole Science Hero trope is a hat tailored for Romulans.
i think a science(ship) carrier with a secondary focus in tac, possibly with a hybrid intel seat would rit for the idear of what the romulans were like and to aid in the protection of the new romulan home world as they do not have any thing except allies to help them defend their new space properly
Romulan carrier stats t6
hull:49,250
sheild mod: 1.30
weapons: 3fore 3aft
hagerbays: 2
crew:2,000
Boffs: LtCom tac, LtCom eng, Com sci/intel, Lt Uni/intel
devices: 3
consols: 4 tac, 3 eng, 4 science
turn rate: 7
impulse: 0.18
Inertia: 25
pwr bonus: +10 wep +10aux
secondary deflector
something like this perhaps ^_^ nudge nudge cyptic i am helping your work out the important bits XD
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Sorry, that's total BS, they may have used the same model for the Science and the SCOUT ship (NOT the shuttle), but it does not mean that they have the same size, and talking about the scale, they (cryptic) have done the same thing with the defiant and DS9 (and maybe a few others) we have a half dozend different canonical scales of the same model, they took the conveniant one and added it to the game, i don't see the big problem here with the science ship (maybe a crytic apologist has another point of view, but if that is the case i think we can agree that we disagree here).
They would have every reason to do so, because that's the model used in the show, and if they don't use the model from the show, why even bother?
Or are you as the resident Yeager fan telling me you would be happy with an artistic reinterpretation of the Yeager? Are you sure all others Yeager fans agree with that?
You seem to be misunderstanding me. Of course the Romulan Scout ship and that Science Vessel are unlikely to be meant having the same size. But Cryptic didn't use the same model and scale it up once. It's the B'Rel vs K'Vort situation - same model (just a different wing position at best), but different sizes. Cryptic decided to have the ship only at exactly one size, because everything else seems silly.
The Scout Vessel was first seen in "The Enemy" and later in "THe Defector", and they seemed definitely smaller than the Science Vessel from "The Next Phase", since in the first two cases the crews seemed to be one or two persons only.
There aren't two DS9s in this game, one called "Deep Space Nine" and the other "Com Substation 42", with the latter being 1/5th size of the the Deep Space Nine.
Unless you put your words in erotic format, none of these morons will agree with you let alone understand a damn thing you're actually trying to state.
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Yes I would. The ships people buy are the ones they saw on the shows (the canon ones anyway) what did we see of the Yeager onscreen? Intrepid hull and nacelles and some sort of long angled pylons. Let Cryptic use their artistic license.
They share very little. The have a different head section and rear section the wings are upside down and angled the opposite way. The only superficial thing they share is the nacelles (that the also share with the D'D). They're no more the same ship than the Negh'Var and Vor'Cha are despite the Vor hull being turned upside down to make the Negh.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I love my Vesta class and id love something similar for romulans.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
But I'd totally endorse a new, sleeker, Vesta-esque warbird for them. The whole Science Hero trope is a hat tailored for Romulans.
Romulan carrier stats t6
hull:49,250
sheild mod: 1.30
weapons: 3fore 3aft
hagerbays: 2
crew:2,000
Boffs: LtCom tac, LtCom eng, Com sci/intel, Lt Uni/intel
devices: 3
consols: 4 tac, 3 eng, 4 science
turn rate: 7
impulse: 0.18
Inertia: 25
pwr bonus: +10 wep +10aux
secondary deflector
something like this perhaps ^_^ nudge nudge cyptic i am helping your work out the important bits XD