Mirror Universe T6 ships

tsire

Would be interesting to include mirror universe T6 ships in the next lock box...and maybe also make all the seatings universal.

anazonda

tsire wrote: »

and maybe also make all the seatings universal.

Would it not be easier to get an "I win" button?

angrytarg

T6 Mirror ships I think are very likely, as some are still missing. But I highly doubt you get universal stations, those are supposed to be "freebie" ships and not superior to store ships ​​

hyperionx09

We're about due for some new Mirror ships. I could see even a Mirror T5 Odyssey, Scimitar, and Bortasqu, now that T6s are the standard (not to mention, there is a legitimate Terran Odyssey skin; as it was featured on occasion in the Mirror Invasion queue).

Still hoping for some T6 mirror ships though; I still have my C-Store Faeht in the Mirror skin that was available before they fixed it (Mirror skin was available instead of the brown). Only reason I haven't dismissed it is because it still has the lovely mirror red finish (which looks especially neat with the Iconian shield skin).

Also spotted a Mirror Skin for my Phantom one time, but I couldn't choose that option (ship editor was lagging while loading, so I spotted a few non-standard skins, including the Mirror one).

Seriously though, I'd just wish they sold Mirror skins straight from the C-Store. Especially for T6 ships and T5s that don't already have a Mirror skin.

davefenestrator

Also spotted a Mirror Skin for my Phantom one time, but I couldn't choose that option (ship editor was lagging while loading, so I spotted a few non-standard skins, including the Mirror one).

I'd pay zen to add a less hideous skin for my phantom. Great ship if you fly it with your eyes closed

leviathan99

angrytarg wrote: »

T6 Mirror ships I think are very likely, as some are still missing. But I highly doubt you get universal stations, those are supposed to be "freebie" ships and not superior to store ships ​​

Unless Mirror ships are the grand prize.

Actually, there's an interesting idea...

We have seen grand prize choice boxes.

What IF the Mirror lockbox had three grand prizes. More grand prizes doesn't reduce the acquisition cost of any one grand prize (although *A* grand prize of some kind would be more common).

So...

0.5% chance - Mirror Cruiser Choice Pack [T6]
0.5% chance - Mirror Science Vessel Choice Pack [T6]
0.5% chance - Mirror Escort Choice Pack [T6]

So that'd be 1.5% chance of getting any given one but still only 0.5% chance per.

asuran14

If they do a mirror lockbox i would not mind seeing maybe ships from species that had not risen to gain warp travel in the prime setting added, i mean the mirror is supposed to be similar to the prime with differences in it. So what about some events that changed/happened differently caused certain races to not get warp travel an others to get warp travel, and so they would have vastly different mabe interesting ship designs that would not be seen in the prime setting. As a prime grand prize that would make for a very unique an interesting prize. I liek the idea of having a choice pack of several carrear path ships though too.

leviathan99

asuran14 wrote: »

If they do a mirror lockbox i would not mind seeing maybe ships from species that had not risen to gain warp travel in the prime setting added, i mean the mirror is supposed to be similar to the prime with differences in it. So what about some events that changed/happened differently caused certain races to not get warp travel an others to get warp travel, and so they would have vastly different mabe interesting ship designs that would not be seen in the prime setting. As a prime grand prize that would make for a very unique an interesting prize. I liek the idea of having a choice pack of several carrear path ships though too.

I think those would make sense (and be interesting) as blue box T5s.

Mirror Ekosian with Germanic/Gothic design.

Mirror Iotian with Model T inspired design.

Actually, that alone would be an interesting idea:

Prime Directive Lockbox.

To tie it in with the temporal stuff coming up, maybe we could have an arc based on the Prime Directive where we encounter a Temporal Cold War faction made up of civilizations that are pre-Warp in the Prime timeline.

They could either come from a world where the Prime Directive doesn't exist or from the distant future, where we see them as less advanced neighbors of the Temporal Integrity Commission.

asuran14

stoleviathan99 wrote: »

asuran14 wrote: »

If they do a mirror lockbox i would not mind seeing maybe ships from species that had not risen to gain warp travel in the prime setting added, i mean the mirror is supposed to be similar to the prime with differences in it. So what about some events that changed/happened differently caused certain races to not get warp travel an others to get warp travel, and so they would have vastly different mabe interesting ship designs that would not be seen in the prime setting. As a prime grand prize that would make for a very unique an interesting prize. I liek the idea of having a choice pack of several carrear path ships though too.

I think those would make sense (and be interesting) as blue box T5s.

Mirror Ekosian with Germanic/Gothic design.

Mirror Iotian with Model T inspired design.

Actually, that alone would be an interesting idea:

Prime Directive Lockbox.

To tie it in with the temporal stuff coming up, maybe we could have an arc based on the Prime Directive where we encounter a Temporal Cold War faction made up of civilizations that are pre-Warp in the Prime timeline.

They could either come from a world where the Prime Directive doesn't exist or from the distant future, where we see them as less advanced neighbors of the Temporal Integrity Commission.

Might sound weird but always liked the cloakwork style and design so wonder if we might find some using something like that style, or not exactly using time-technology, but more using chroniton-partical based technology that might focus them into a style like that. Though still woud like to see a fully sentient robotic race like the one that supposedly found V'ger origanally, not the borg that is a merger of organic an mechanical but fully mechanical an logical based beings.

tinkerstorm

anazonda wrote: »

tsire wrote: »

and maybe also make all the seatings universal.

Would it not be easier to get an "I win" button?

What were you thinking of 'winning', Mr. Sheen, in an MMO, which by definition can never be 'won'? Apparently you've never heard of BoPs, which just so happen to have all universal seating. Maybe you could try playing STO?

deleroux

tsire wrote: »

and maybe also make all the seatings universal.

No, you can't have our BoPs.

cryptkeeper0

Hmmm I had a idea, new T6 mirror ships need to come with alternate specialization seating, same overall seating. Maybe use with upgrade modules make fleet quality, without extra card from admiral system....

Gal-X with intel or pilot, Gal with pilot or intel seat, excelsior with pilot. Prometheus with intel, the list can go on.

asuran14

When we saw abit of leaked info/visuals on the counterpoint stfthe terrans had gained a temperol dread alognw ith others seeminly different ship designs that most likely arefrom the tech they gained from the future to defeat the Iconians of thier universe. Think we might see them added as a part of either a Mirror lockbox or a prime version for a new temperol lockbox they might release. Not seen the counterpoint vid around so expect they might have gotten it taken down.

leviathan99

cryptkeeper0 wrote: »

Hmmm I had a idea, new T6 mirror ships need to come with alternate specialization seating, same overall seating. Maybe use with upgrade modules make fleet quality, without extra card from admiral system....

Gal-X with intel or pilot, Gal with pilot or intel seat, excelsior with pilot. Prometheus with intel, the list can go on.

Actually I could see Cryptic doing BOTH reversals.

Let me see if I can process this, using the "rules" so far for swapping... Imagine Intel as Sci + Tac, Pilot as Eng + Tac, Command as Sci + Eng. Anchor around eng for the swap on cruisers. I'm budgeting these as lockbox grand prize ships. I'm also basically having to take a crowbar to this to make a difference between the two cruisers here. Some mirrors turn Tac into Sci and some turn Eng into Sci.

Mirror Dreadnought Cruiser
Stations:
1 Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Intel,1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Tac/Intel, 1 Ensign Universal
Consoles:
4 Tac, 5 Eng, 2 Sci


Mirror Advanced Heavy Cruiser
Stations:
1 Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Pilot, 1 Lieutenant Commander Sci, 1 Lieutenant Tac/Pilot, 1 Ensign Universal
Consoles:
2 Tac, 5 Eng, 4 Sci

There is a chance that the Dreadnought here might be an excelsior (with 3 nacelles?) and the Advanced might be a Galaxy (without 3)? I kind of lean towards splitting the difference a bit.

Have the Galaxy-X be the Advanced. Keeps hangar and lance. 3rd nacelle optional. Loses saucer sep compatibility. Call it a Mirror Advanced Conquest Cruiser.

Have the Excelsior be the Dreadnought. Gains 3rd nacelle, hangar, and lance. Call it a Mirror Dreadnought Heavy Cruiser. Special hangar pet.

capnmanx

I'd like it if they did reversals of the Intel ships. Like an intel Guardian that's all sharp edged and angular, and an Eclipse with less intel seating and a more conventional fleet look. I imagine that'd be too much work for mirror ships, but I'd still like to see it.

shpoks

I hope that MU ships are a part of history's junkyard and we never see or hear anything from them ever again, except as NPC opponents. I much more prefer the consolation prizes in the form of new unique ships (some even with unique bridges) as it has been the case with lockboxes since T6 was introduced.

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hyperionx09

T6 Mirror ships with a swapped Specialist seat and Boff Loadout (Intel<-> Command <-> Pilot) would be a reasonable evolution. And like others said, can grant otherwise non-existent ships of lesser species that didn't attain space travel in the Prime timeline but did in the alternate timeline.

Of course, they should also offer Mirror versions of existing T5 that don't already have a Mirror counterpart. I'd find it pretty hilarious and wonderful at the same time if the Romulans get a Science Dreadnought Scimitar (5 Sci consoles and a 4-3 setup similar to the Krenim Science Dreadnought).

shar487a

I'd like to see a new Temporal Lockbox v2 with T6 Wells + Mobius. Those time ships came from the future, so why keep them locked in a past-configuration?

I could see these fitting in a Mirror-Universe Lockbox, but we won't have to wait too long to see the next batch of MU ships.

angrytarg

shpoks wrote: »

I hope that MU ships are a part of history's junkyard and we never see or hear anything from them ever again, except as NPC opponents. I much more prefer the consolation prizes in the form of new unique ships (some even with unique bridges) as it has been the case with lockboxes since T6 was introduced.

Wishful thinking, I guess

Personally I would like a NPC-Mirror-Fleet entirely made up of old costume ships (Cryptic's line-up) and maybe a Galaxy, Oddyssey and a Defiant as "Mirror-Hero" ships. Players keep the ships they have now, of course, but "prime-starfleet" should lose all ships that are not 2409/2410 refit type-6 ships. Lockboxes could include modifications to swap bridge stations to get the "mirror feel" - but well, that's not going to happen.​​