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Is the community really ready for a new ship contest?

I got the bad feeling this might turn into odyssey 2.0 ...

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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    Somehow I got the impression the winner had already been chosen and it will be presented as "the popular vote".
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    Somehow I got the impression the winner had already been chosen and it will be presented as "the popular vote".

    LOL, that is a possibility. The key is if they show or hide the votes. If they show them, then we can obviously see what is most popular as the contest progresses. If they hide them, then they could hypothetically do whatever they want.

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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    LOL, that is a possibility. The key is if they show or hide the votes. If they show them, then we can obviously see what is most popular as the contest progresses. If they hide them, then they could hypothetically do whatever they want.

    Exactly!

  • koraheaglecrykoraheaglecry Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    Omega it is then.
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    If they show the votes than certain radical groups (Jupiter fans) can manipulate the competition to make sure a certain design wins by mass voting and making fake accounts etc.

    Not saying this WILL happen but it definitely could happen. I think voting should be done anonymously and the list updated to simply show the ships in order of votes but no hard numbers. They could update the list every week or so. That way it would be harder for the list to be manipulated but we would know which one is winning.
  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    samt1996 wrote: »
    If they show the votes than certain radical groups (Jupiter fans) can manipulate the competition to make sure a certain design wins by mass voting and making fake accounts etc.

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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    Well the next Enterprise contest was based on player designs...this one is based on their designs...I don't see there being as big of a problem.

    Since they're putting so much into this I could see them perhaps including several of the top winners...they have multiple options if a dual or quad nacelled ship wins...really liking Alpha myself.
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  • pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
    Somehow I got the impression the winner had already been chosen and it will be presented as "the popular vote".

    LOL, that is a possibility. The key is if they show or hide the votes. If they show them, then we can obviously see what is most popular as the contest progresses. If they hide them, then they could hypothetically do whatever they want.
    Everyone in the office has our own individual favorites, but we're actually holding back on discussing them because we don't want to create a bias. This is genuinely a "Which one do you guys want?"
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    I like the design of the ship in my sig picture. Make it Klingon and call it a T6 K'tinga upgrade.

    Hull - The hull will remain the same as the existing K'tinga.
    Mission Pod - Something a bit more streamlined being that this vessel was never big in the scheme of Klingon ships. I like the mission pod on the Vor'kang or even the Koro'tinga.
    Nacelles - Vor'cha nacelles, obviously scaled to fit. Or...the armored nacelles from the Tor'khat. Any possibility should be slightly angled inward just like the existing D7/K'tinga design.
    Neck - Two possibilities...keep the existing K'tinga neck and/or an option to use a neck similar in style to the Vor'kang.
    Command center - Three possibilities...Koro'tinga, Vor'kang, Vor'cha...again, all scaled to fit. Being that the Vor'cha has a long forward piece, that might be shortened somehow but still retaining the prongs of a tuning fork look.

    Impulse engines in the rear should be changed graphically somehow.

    New ship would have a crew of 600 and be designated a light cruiser or a fast attack cruiser.

    If you really want to get fancy, it could come in the three flavors: Tactical, Engineering and Science and have BOFF and console layout accordingly.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Somehow I got the impression the winner had already been chosen and it will be presented as "the popular vote".

    LOL, that is a possibility. The key is if they show or hide the votes. If they show them, then we can obviously see what is most popular as the contest progresses. If they hide them, then they could hypothetically do whatever they want.
    Everyone in the office has our own individual favorites, but we're actually holding back on discussing them because we don't want to create a bias. This is genuinely a "Which one do you guys want?"

    Hey, I wasn't the one that suggested the conspiracy theory, plus I was mainly jk :p

    That said, are you going to make the votes public or keep them private? If the latter, is there any specific reason?

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  • rickdankorickdanko Member Posts: 470 Arc User
    Will there be a "none of the above" option?
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    I'm rather jaded at this point.

    So, meh. :neutral:
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    Is the community really ready for a new ship contest?

    Yes, people needed something new to complain about :)

    Here: it's rigged.

    It's Fed only:
    1. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1204320/fed-only-ship-design-contest
    2. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1204316/will-the-rr-and-kdf-also-be-getting-a-new-carrier
  • kmaximuskmaximus Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    Is the community really ready for a new ship contest?

    Yes, people needed something new to complain about :)

    Here: it's rigged.

    It's Fed only:
    1. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1204320/fed-only-ship-design-contest
    2. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1204316/will-the-rr-and-kdf-also-be-getting-a-new-carrier

    The KDF already has a decent Klingon carrier. And Roms don't carry fighters. They shotgun plasma... ah TRIBBLE! Wrong game! Carriers + Missles + Awesome Cat People == Where the F#%$ are my Kzinti?!?!?!?!?!?!!!

    See? When it comes to complaining, we don't need any help, but I thank you for your encouragement.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Carrier landings in Wing Commander 1 were always exciting -- no auto-landing. Mess up, and you have to play the whole mission again. Though Roberts & co called them "Kilrathi" since they didn't want to pay Niven :)

    Edit: unless you meant the adaptation of Niven's "the soft weapon" in TAS
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,685 Community Moderator
    I have no problem with the Kilrathi. I frickin' loved playing Wing Commander 3 and 4. And I did actually manually land a couple times.
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  • kmaximuskmaximus Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Edit: unless you meant the adaptation of Niven's "the soft weapon" in TAS

    Yes, this and I've played a lot of Star Fleet Battles in the past. The Kzinti were represented in that game as well. It did become a decent computer game called Star Fleet Command, but they robbed the creator of SFB and never completed a true Volume 3 of the game. My best hope now is to mount Ferengi missiles on a Catian carrier while spamming Torp Spread and weep silently to myself.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I'm ready because I don't care. B)
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I just finished a meeting with 'The Community' and they told me they were ready.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    marcel314 wrote: »
    I got the bad feeling this might turn into odyssey 2.0 ...

    The Odyssey contest was a typical weekday on the forums. I've seen some people try to paint that as some kind of debacle. Really, I think that's being hypersensitive.

    The Odyssey contest went much smoother than I expected it to.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    marcel314 wrote: »
    I got the bad feeling this might turn into odyssey 2.0 ...
    Nope - because the players themselves aren't designing ort submitting anything. It appears the Ship Devs have created some new designs; and we (the playerbase) will just vote on the various options presented; and the winning options will become the ultimate in-game model for the ship.

    The playerbase will effectively have no one single person (or Judge) to blame. Majority vote will carry the day.
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