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Stop posting ship modules for over 10 mil.
mungos99
Member Posts: 15 Arc User
Up until a few months or so, the prices of fleet ship modules regularly varied just under 10 mil EC but never more than that. Than for some reason people just decided they want to make more money out of them and the prices jumped over the 10 mil cap which all silver members have. Now, I understand we can increase the cap, but that would require either using real money or endlessly grinding dilithium so we can convert it to Zen. Apparently, people are still buying them for the available price, but is it really worth it? Sellers might make 2 or 3 million more per a module, but it narrows down the amount of their customers, which makes it harder to sell. At this moment, the lowest price of modules is 11.990.000 EC. If you got it down to 9.999.000, that would be just 2 million less, which is not that much money, and everyone could buy them. People please.
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One of the most important indicators for the EC value of Zen is probably the lock box key.. which is at 3.5 million EC last time I checked and has been over 2.5 million EC for a while now. A fleet ship module is 4 times as expensive in terms of Zen and could therefore easily be expected to sell for more than 10m.
That's not correct. It's 500 zen for the EC unlock for silver players.
to the op, yeah 10 mill is too much for a module. I save zen for one. We just need an EC sink.
How often do we see these kinds of threads pop up?
As a former gold player the first thing I did when transitioning to silver was to hand over all my EC to a trusted friend in the fleet then buy the EC cap upgrade.
Now if you don't agree with the exchange prices and don't have the rl money to either buy the modules or the EC cap lift, then use the 3rd option, earn dilithium to convert to zen to purchase from the C-Store.
Fleet ship modules simply reflects that, as do the price of keys, leading to fewer players playing, and less getting lucky, and fewer supply but with steady or increasing demand.
One real easy way around the EC cap limit is to simply do a direct trade, and offer them say keys or contraband or whatever else to cover the excess above 10 M.
Of course they can set whatever price they want, but that is called a monopoly and even if they decide the price should be that high, it does not mean the item is worth that much. And you have to work for EC the same as you have to work for dil and real money, so it is not free.
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I am not 1 out of 10 thousand. The people the sellers target as their customers are mostly free members who do not want to spend any real money in-game generally, so most of them have not purchased the cap increase. That is exactly why I started this discussion; by trying to make a few dollars more, sellers are drastically narrowing down the list of their buyers (I assume this of course, I dont have any real data), which is also bad for them. You can already see the prices going down. Some while ago the price was around 16 mil and it gradually got down to 11. All I am saying is that it would be much better for everyone if they lowered the price just a little bit more so that everyone would be able to buy it.
Real life currency also just requires you to ˝play˝ life and grind to get it, just like you grind to get EC or dil. It is also used to buy things you want. Virtual money is also money and if you have to sit for hours and do boring daily missions to get it, then its not free. You also have to work for it.
I know the exchange is not the only way to buy FSMs, but if the ZEN store is not an option, than there is no other way. You can convert dil but that wouldnt make it any easier than converting dil and then buying the cap increase. My point is the FSMs arent worth the current price.
I would happily pay the current price if there was no credit cap.
The EC cap is 500 zen, thats 110,500 dil, two weeks of hitting the refining cap if you have a single toon. Less if you run more. What's the problem? and to hit the 8k per day takes me less that an hour, if you have a little knowledge of the game. Sorry OP but you seem the type that want everything right away. For that you drop real money into the game.
Your point, is your opinion, and who are you decide what's worth what on the exchange? Like others have said players drive the prices on the exchange. The EC cap is the first purchase for many if not 99% of the silver player base. The only other way is, if your in a fleet is to see if someone is willing to buy one for you and is willing to let you pay the EC back in a few chunks.
Well Im not deciding the prices, but I have the right to say my opinion, and my opinion is if the prices are already close to 10 mil, they can be just a little lower so that everyone could buy it. I dont understand how you people cant get this. I wouldnt be posting this if the prices were stagnating at 20 mil.
Yes, you do have the right to speak your opinion. But you don't have the right to tell other people what to do.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Edited - No one is saying you can't voice your opinion. But people will list things for what they think it's worth. There's no point in crying about it because it wont get you anything.
Thinking about it, try the TheTradingChannel, you might be able to pick one up in there for what you want to pay. But I'm not making any promises.
Live Long And Suck It. - Wil Weaton
Because 10 mil EC today is like 2 mil EC at launch. The cap should be raised to 50 mil.
Shhhh, now because us buyers profit!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
This thread is hilarious. It's like watching someone playing multiplayer Halo, losing really badly, and saying, "dude, stop shooting me so I can win!".
Despite what you might thing, you're in the minority.
Most free players have the cap increase.. you're not the majority here. The Cap increase is EASY to obtain, at the current exchange rate it's just over 115k Dilithum and that gets you an account wide cap increase. Honestly, one of the best deals going and one of the absolute FIRST things that any Silver should get at level 50.
115k Dilithium is nothing, what you're asking is for sellers to ignore the market value and intentionally de-value their own goods to compensate for you not wanting to spend Dilithum on a cap increase. The request is unreasonable, sellers will sell for whatever they can get. If you're insistent on not paying more then 10M then your only option outside of upgrading your cap is to refrain from buying and hope that others follow suit.
As with anything else, market price is determined by simple supply and demand.