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Heavy Escort Carriers Stats

pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
We’re excited to reveal the stats, items and abilities for three new Escort Carriers: the Alita Class, the Qa’Tel and the Jhu’ael!

Check out the full stat lineup here.

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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Hey, is something off with the boff slots? The Fed one has 13 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. The KDF one has 12 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. And then the Rom one has 12 boff slots for tier 6 and fleet again. Is there a reason that KDF and Rom have one less slot, or is this a typo?

    EDIT: Sorry, I misread the LT Commander as a LT slot, as pointed out below, sorry.​​
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  • pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    malkarris wrote: »
    Hey, is something off with the boff slots? The Fed one has 13 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. The KDF one has 12 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. And then the Rom one has 12 boff slots for tier 6 and fleet again. Is there a reason that KDF and Rom have one less slot, or is this a typo?​​
    I will poke Phil to double check on it again as soon as he's in.
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Why not take some of the items on the lower tier c-store raptors and make a set for the KDF flight deck raptor? Not that it's a big deal but one would think it would promote sales of the lower tier ships and, at least, give the KDF ships some set bonus. The same thing happened with the t6 negh'var and I'm a bit disappointed it's happening again here since there's plenty of items on the KDF side already that would work.

    Other than that, love these ships and I will definitely buy the 3 pack on this one.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    malkarris wrote: »
    Hey, is something off with the boff slots? The Fed one has 13 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. The KDF one has 12 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. And then the Rom one has 12 boff slots for tier 6 and fleet again. Is there a reason that KDF and Rom have one less slot, or is this a typo?​​

    The difference between the KDF and RR ships to the Fed ship seems to be that the Fed ship got its Ensign upgraded to Lt., but the KDF/RR ships got a Lt. upgraded to Lt.Cmdr.

    But they can carry the same number of bridge officer abilities.

    Raptor:
    1 Ensign Tactical: 1 Slot
    1 Commander Tactical: 4 Slots
    1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Pilot: 3 Slots
    1 Lieutenant Science: 2 Slots
    1 Lieutenant Commander Universal: 3 Slots
    => 13 Slots; 1 Cmdr, 2 Lt.Cmdr , 1 Lt., 1 Ensign; 5 Bridge Officers


    Alita:
    1 Lieutenant Tactical: 2 Slots
    1 Commander Tactical: 4 Slots
    1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Pilot: 3 Slots:
    1 Lieutenant Science: 2 Slots
    1 Lieutenant Universal: 2 Slots
    => 13 Slots; 1 Cmdr, 1 Lt.Cmdr Slots, 3 Lt.; 5 Bridge Officers
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  • omegasprimeomegasprime Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    Pretty nice!​​
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    YAY that the Fed one got rid of the useless tac ensign slot. Boo, that the other factions did not. ​​
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    Pretty nice!​​

    For Fed, that's an understatement. Man, makes me want to play with this ship.
  • dom1941dom1941 Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    My only question for Elite Peres and and Elite KDF fighters...will the Cannon rapid fire 1 STACK? i mean they already have rapid fire :neutral:
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  • valsgaardvalsgaard Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    Ya know Since the Qa'tel does not have a set bonus wouldn't it be fair to give the Raptor the pilot maneuvers to the Qa'tel to make up for it or at least some kind of bonus?
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    Man, I love the look on those nacelles on the Federation HEC! They give out some retro cool vibe to me. Are we able to make the pylons upswept on this one? I'm not so sure about the saucer, looks all kinds of wrong to me from the underside, but then again if I happen to pick up this ship sometime I'll probably use the new remodeled Akira saucer or one of the Armitage/Thunderchild ones.
    The Klingon raptor is also one good loking ship, really nice. The 'head' might be a tad too big for my taste, but I'd use the Birok Class 'head' instead and solve that problem.

    Also, am I dreaming or have trascended to the MU? Is the KDF ship really, for once, the best of the bunch? Certainly seems a tad better in stats. I assume this is to compensate for not having console set bonuses like the other two, but still, as a single ship the Klingon Raptor seems better. I kinda' like that. :naughty:
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    So, is the singularity beam from the previous arkif available??? if that so, it is fixed? or you guys are going to include it as well still bugged as hell?.
  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    malkarris wrote: »
    Hey, is something off with the boff slots? The Fed one has 13 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. The KDF one has 12 boff slots for both Tier 6 and Fleet. And then the Rom one has 12 boff slots for tier 6 and fleet again. Is there a reason that KDF and Rom have one less slot, or is this a typo?​​

    The answer you are looking for is -> The KDF is a Raptor and the Rommie is a warbird. And they are not starfleet. <<
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    Pilot.. interesting.. I was honestly expecting Command.

    Pretty interesting bridge setups.. I'm going to have to digest them for a bit before deciding what all I'll want to go for when I actually come back to playing this game regularly again.
  • keletteskelettes Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    Sweeeeet :smile:

    I already fly an Ar'kif, so it's no wonder that the Jhu'ael just danced up to near the top of my buy list ^^
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  • buttstallion39buttstallion39 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    I don't understand why the new T6 Escort Carriers are not coming with new, stronger hangar pets. Shouldn't there be a new line of T6 pets to go with new T6 ships? The Peregrines are super weak and one hangar of them will do next to nothing for DPS. Seems like Carriers and Pets are just an afterthought and don't nearly get the attention they deserve.
  • mreeves7amreeves7a Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    I mentioned this over on Reddit, but I thought I'd toss it out here too:

    "If they're going to constantly cheat the KDF variant of set bonuses, they should add the bonus stats into the console for the Red side. Not the full bonus, since we wouldn't have to use multiple consoles for it, but a portion of it."

    First the T6 Negh'var/Negh'Tev, now the Qa'tel/Qin...DO NOT punish your already poorly treated portion of the player base for YOUR past poor business "choices". Either give the Qa'tel's console a portion of the set bonus effects, use the T3 and T4 Raptor consoles to make a set, or don't give the Alita and Jhu'ael 3-piece set bonuses, leave them at 2-part sets.
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,319 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    The Engineering and Science boff slots seem mixed up on the Romulan ship to me, but whatever...

    Also, why 'cheat' the KDF out of console bonuses again? Just make previous tier Store versions of the necessary ship and add in Disruptor-based variants of the Fed consoles to get the console set, please.

    And what happens to the previous T5 releases that are level 50+ ...?
    Aren't they now redundant since you can get a T6 ship for 50+ ?
    At least lower their availability to level 40+ like you did with the Chimera, Peghqu' and Daeinos.
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    I'll need to see the actual 2/3 pc bonus when equipped, but it seems like a lot of situational consoles for a potentially minor passive boost...I'll have to see.

    What they *should* have done is have the CD on the PD consoles decrease with each additional console of the set added.
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  • giliongilion Member Posts: 686 Arc User
    Looks nice, however I have a small issue with what was written in the stats:
    Friction/Traction: 60

    Friction
    Friction

    There is no friction in space!!! Space is empty, there's nothing to create friction! Why didnt you just leave it on inertia?
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Umm, are you sure about the raptor's hull and shields Trendy?

    It's the same as the Alita ones while raptors used to have worse shields and more hull. Since the Qa'Tel is based upon the Qin, it should theoretically have 44k hull at lvl 60 and 0.833 shield mod. Of course if you're actually giving it FED escort values, I'll be glad since they're better (please update lower tier raptors too, btw).
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    Umm, are you sure about the raptor's hull and shields Trendy?

    It's the same as the Alita ones while raptors used to have worse shields and more hull. Since the Qa'Tel is based upon the Qin, it should theoretically have 44k hull at lvl 60 and 0.833 shield mod. Of course if you're actually giving it FED escort values, I'll be glad since they're better (please update lower tier raptors too, btw).

    I'm hoping it's because of the lack of set bonus. Hope it's not a typo.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I'll point that the KDF does in fact have access to the point defence console, I have it, so there is no reason not to have the 2 piece bonus for the Qa'tel.

    I was hoping for a command instead of Pilot, but I can work with this.

    I think for Lt. Com Pilot I'll go with Deploy Counter Measures I, Reinforcement Squad I, and Form Formation I.

    For Lt. Science I'll go Sci Team, and Feedback Pulse.

    For Lt. Com Uni, I'll put in my main enigeer with Emergency Power to Shields I, Structural Intergity Callopse I, and Enigeering Team III.

    Tac Eng, Beam Overload I.

    Tac Commander Tac Team, Cannon Rapid Fire, Torpedo Spread or one of the mine spreading ones, and Attack Pattern Beta III.

    For Consoles Point Defence, Tacyon Emitter, Repair Platform, Spacial Charge Barrage, some tac consoles, and I'll have to think.

    As for pets, why would anyone keep the To'juos when you have slavers amoung other better options. I mostly use my Elite slavers, but I'll also play with my Elite Interceptors, Elite Tachyon Drones, and Armoured Maurading Force Shuttles. Maybe Elite Scorpion Fighters.

    If I was fed I'd dump the Peregines for either Yellowstones or Elite Swarm Drones if one has a 360 beam for BO, or if not Elite Scorpian Fighters.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    toiva wrote: »
    Umm, are you sure about the raptor's hull and shields Trendy?

    It's the same as the Alita ones while raptors used to have worse shields and more hull. Since the Qa'Tel is based upon the Qin, it should theoretically have 44k hull at lvl 60 and 0.833 shield mod. Of course if you're actually giving it FED escort values, I'll be glad since they're better (please update lower tier raptors too, btw).

    I'm hoping it's because of the lack of set bonus. Hope it's not a typo.

    That a possiblity, it does point out that the Qa'tel is the biggest Raptor, so maybe its tougher too, it is an update of the Heavy Raptor.
  • earwigvr6earwigvr6 Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I made a bad post!
  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    The Akira is the number one ship a fan would go to to create a torpedo/energy hybrid ship. Without a lt. cmdr. tactical it will never be one of the best ships to do this.
  • pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    toiva wrote: »
    Umm, are you sure about the raptor's hull and shields Trendy?

    It's the same as the Alita ones while raptors used to have worse shields and more hull. Since the Qa'Tel is based upon the Qin, it should theoretically have 44k hull at lvl 60 and 0.833 shield mod. Of course if you're actually giving it FED escort values, I'll be glad since they're better (please update lower tier raptors too, btw).

    I'm hoping it's because of the lack of set bonus. Hope it's not a typo.
    Seems legit.
  • alastorforthrighalastorforthrigh Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    Q: Why isn’t the Qa’Tel Flight Deck Raptor’s Destabilized Tachyon Emitters console part of a set?

    A: No other Raptor variants came with a console, so there were no consoles with which to make a set.

    Uhmm... SuQob Raptor came with Bioneural Warhead. Puyjaq Raptor came with Graviton Pulse Generator...
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  • freakiumfreakium Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    BOff slot wise I'd rank it Fed > Rom > KDF.

    The Fed's lowest BOff seat is a lieutenant so you don't need to deal with singular ensigns sitting in the corner.

    The Roms get an ensign engineering seat but that can go into emergency power abilities or an engineering team. That and they get access to another universal Lt. Commander slot for either more healing, more firepower, or more space wizardry.

    The KDF seats are my least favourite. The ensign seat will most likely be a tactical team or a beam overload. I've always loved the Lt. Commander/Commander BOff setup for escorts so if I pick the Lt. Commander slot for something other than Tac, I'm missing two abilities.

    I'll most likely just buy the Alita though. I've been drooling for this ship for quite some time so thanks for all the time you've spent on bringing this beauty back up to par!
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  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Why not take some of the items on the lower tier c-store raptors and make a set for the KDF flight deck raptor? Not that it's a big deal but one would think it would promote sales of the lower tier ships and, at least, give the KDF ships some set bonus.

    They could have mashed together a set using the Disruptor Quad Cannons from the Ning'tao and maybe the Graviton Pulse Generator on the Puyjaq.

    I don't like the that the KDF and Rom versions have Lt. Cmdr Universal and the Fed only has Lt. Universal. Is that a typo?

    Not too fond of the Lt. Cmdr Eng/Pilot slot as there are no other Eng slots, but you could opt to put an Engineer in the universal seat if need be.
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  • freakiumfreakium Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    Q: Why isn’t the Qa’Tel Flight Deck Raptor’s Destabilized Tachyon Emitters console part of a set?

    A: No other Raptor variants came with a console, so there were no consoles with which to make a set.

    Uhmm... SuQob Raptor came with Bioneural Warhead. Puyjaq Raptor came with Graviton Pulse Generator...

    They are but they're not part of the Qin Heavy Raptor line.
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