Why is it prohibited to mix KDF and FED Fleets in the armada system? It makes no sense. Since the iconian war, the Klingons and the Federation are allies.
Because they haven't worked the mechanics of that out yet.
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Why is it prohibited to mix KDF and FED Fleets in the armada system? It makes no sense. Since the iconian war, the Klingons and the Federation are allies.
It's good idea to combine FED and KDF fleets in Armadas. Currently, in this state of the game, there isn't any reason of the differentiation. Federation and other fractions in the Milky Way Galaxy are now ALLIES against to the Iconians.
The combined Armadas harmonize much more with the overall game story, and better reflect the great cooperation of the Milky Way's species in the iconian war.
Technical limitations, and they haven't figured out how to handle certain things. For example - you can't visit faction Holdings from the other fleet. Would it be fair to ask others to contribute to them if they can't benefit from it (I think it would be fine, People always get something in return - fleet credits.)
Technical limitations, and they haven't figured out how to handle certain things. For example - you can't visit faction Holdings from the other fleet. Would it be fair to ask others to contribute to them if they can't benefit from it (I think it would be fine, People always get something in return - fleet credits.)
So, the Delta Alliance does not contain both the Klingon Defense Force and Starfleet?
get your feddie toon onto qonos and find out for yourself.
at best the 'delta alliance' is a cessation of open and sanctioned hostility. we still raid your outposts and sell you to slave-traders every single day.
as far as cross-faction armadas go, its been discussed to death. imo if you want your t5 kdf starbase, try logging in kdf-side for a change. if you arent willing to do that, leave the kdf starbases to the kdf.
Technical limitations, and they haven't figured out how to handle certain things. For example - you can't visit faction Holdings from the other fleet.
I don't see any technical difficulty in this. Simple the devs disengage the in-game limitation, and everything goes its own way. Why could the different fractions not help each other to improve holdings? Almost same projects, almost same ingredients. Easy thing!
Technical limitations, and they haven't figured out how to handle certain things. For example - you can't visit faction Holdings from the other fleet. Would it be fair to ask others to contribute to them if they can't benefit from it (I think it would be fine, People always get something in return - fleet credits.)
So, the Delta Alliance does not contain both the Klingon Defense Force and Starfleet?
get your feddie toon onto qonos and find out for yourself.
at best the 'delta alliance' is a cessation of open and sanctioned hostility. we still raid your outposts and sell you to slave-traders every single day.
SO what, the main story-line has moved on, that the DOFF missions don't is another problem. Of course, lots of these missions are called "Illegal Raid" or "Unauthorized Raid", so maybe we just do this sh*t because we're Klingons, not Feddies that play strictly by the rules?
as far as cross-faction armadas go, its been discussed to death.
As if this has ever stopped anyone, especially Jonny-Comes-Latelys that have missed the previous threadnoughts.
imo if you want your t5 kdf starbase, try logging in kdf-side for a change. if you arent willing to do that, leave the kdf starbases to the kdf.
Yeah, I got the Tier 5 KDF Starbase. Still think Cross-Faction Armadas are a nice idea.
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Yea that would be a cool thing OP. Unfortunately it's too complex to handle for the devs game-code sided.
5 years of STO and FED/KDF can’t even been on the same team on non-PvE maps. They will sort out the Armada thingy to the majority of player’s preference eventually.
Will probably just take another 5 years so stay tuned.
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I for myself wish that we could "merge" two armada chats into one, most active fleets have a fed and kdf section and they still need to use a separate channel for cross faction communication.
I for myself wish that we could "merge" two armada chats into one, most active fleets have a fed and kdf section and they still need to use a separate channel for cross faction communication.
There´s the possibility to create an entirely new channel, which members of your fed and kdf fleets can join. Problem solved.
I for myself wish that we could "merge" two armada chats into one, most active fleets have a fed and kdf section and they still need to use a separate channel for cross faction communication.
There´s the possibility to create an entirely new channel, which members of your fed and kdf fleets can join. Problem solved.
perhaps if the armada channel could be disabled, sure. then it would be solved.
get your feddie toon onto qonos and find out for yourself.
at best the 'delta alliance' is a cessation of open and sanctioned hostility. we still raid your outposts and sell you to slave-traders every single day.
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The DOFF system has no actual in-game/lore significance. It's a separate trading card game - you can fill your roster with 100 copies of the same officer and, as you pointed out, those missions are static and don't change according to the storyline. The "Alliance" is called that, though, because all factions are, well, allies. Not arguing that the story is not very good, but these are the facts.
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as far as cross-faction armadas go, its been discussed to death. imo if you want your t5 kdf starbase, try logging in kdf-side for a change. if you arent willing to do that, leave the kdf starbases to the kdf.
Yah I'm going to say that's not a valid argument. The KDF has a lower population than the FED. Therefore it is intrinsically more difficult to get an active fleet together. There are some T5 KDF fleets, but I'll bet that those large, active fleets (who are capable of progressing through the fleet system without a disproportionately massive personal investment) represent a smaller fraction of the KDF player base than big fleets do with the FED.
That leaves most KDF players struggling (regardless of how the exact stats pan out). The armada system should help (though only by connecting big fleets with small, it doesn't help all that much to link small fleets without a "benefactor" to help them through their projects) but again because there are fewer KDF fleets recruitment may still be a problem. So why not sack an arbitrary restriction to materially help them out? You might not be able to posture about "your" "exclusive" starbase as much, but I'll take more progression over attitude any day.
Also, its a bit more than "the cessation of hostilities" when we're taking orders from one another, conducting highly sensitive joint ops, defending each other's homeworlds, contributing resources towards a shared facilities (main plot's temporal research lab and the delta quadrant command center), repelling boarders from each other's ships, forming joint fleets, ect. ect. ect.
When they say alliance they mean alliance.
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Why is it prohibited to mix KDF and FED Fleets in the armada system? It makes no sense. Since the iconian war, the Klingons and the Federation are allies.
^They can't even handle complete separate factions, now you want them to attempt to mix Armadas? Man you are really asking for the bugs of this game never to be fixed.
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The combined Armadas harmonize much more with the overall game story, and better reflect the great cooperation of the Milky Way's species in the iconian war.
So, the Delta Alliance does not contain both the Klingon Defense Force and Starfleet?
get your feddie toon onto qonos and find out for yourself.
at best the 'delta alliance' is a cessation of open and sanctioned hostility. we still raid your outposts and sell you to slave-traders every single day.
as far as cross-faction armadas go, its been discussed to death. imo if you want your t5 kdf starbase, try logging in kdf-side for a change. if you arent willing to do that, leave the kdf starbases to the kdf.
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I don't see any technical difficulty in this. Simple the devs disengage the in-game limitation, and everything goes its own way. Why could the different fractions not help each other to improve holdings? Almost same projects, almost same ingredients. Easy thing!
As if this has ever stopped anyone, especially Jonny-Comes-Latelys that have missed the previous threadnoughts.
Yeah, I got the Tier 5 KDF Starbase. Still think Cross-Faction Armadas are a nice idea.
http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/1193315/should-the-coming-armada-system-allow-cross-faction-groupings-of-fleets/p1
5 years of STO and FED/KDF can’t even been on the same team on non-PvE maps. They will sort out the Armada thingy to the majority of player’s preference eventually.
Will probably just take another 5 years so stay tuned.
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There´s the possibility to create an entirely new channel, which members of your fed and kdf fleets can join. Problem solved.
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The DOFF system has no actual in-game/lore significance. It's a separate trading card game - you can fill your roster with 100 copies of the same officer and, as you pointed out, those missions are static and don't change according to the storyline. The "Alliance" is called that, though, because all factions are, well, allies. Not arguing that the story is not very good, but these are the facts.
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Yah I'm going to say that's not a valid argument. The KDF has a lower population than the FED. Therefore it is intrinsically more difficult to get an active fleet together. There are some T5 KDF fleets, but I'll bet that those large, active fleets (who are capable of progressing through the fleet system without a disproportionately massive personal investment) represent a smaller fraction of the KDF player base than big fleets do with the FED.
That leaves most KDF players struggling (regardless of how the exact stats pan out). The armada system should help (though only by connecting big fleets with small, it doesn't help all that much to link small fleets without a "benefactor" to help them through their projects) but again because there are fewer KDF fleets recruitment may still be a problem. So why not sack an arbitrary restriction to materially help them out? You might not be able to posture about "your" "exclusive" starbase as much, but I'll take more progression over attitude any day.
Also, its a bit more than "the cessation of hostilities" when we're taking orders from one another, conducting highly sensitive joint ops, defending each other's homeworlds, contributing resources towards a shared facilities (main plot's temporal research lab and the delta quadrant command center), repelling boarders from each other's ships, forming joint fleets, ect. ect. ect.
When they say alliance they mean alliance.
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Can we stop with the defeatist attitudes?
If you constantly expect less, you will always get less. Maybe it's time we asked for more.