Forced updates were the main reason I wasn't going to put 10 on my laptop. I often tether my laptop to my smartphone at work, the last thing I wanted was to be forced to use my monthly cellular data allocation on forced updates. Thanks for sharing that, it will come in handy down the road when I eventually make the change.
If you have a metered Internet connection, setting your network connection to metered in Windows 10 can help you reduce the amount of data you send and receive.
If a wireless network is set as a metered connection, then:
•Any app that relies on an Internet connection to update or display info might be limited in the amount of data it can download or display.
•Windows Updates won't automatically download over a metered connection (where charges may apply).
•Apps downloading from the Windows Store might be paused.
•Start screen and Start menu live tiles might stop updating.
•Offline files might not sync automatically.
•Ethernet network connections can't be set to metered.
once you set up a wireless connection as metered the settings will be remembered for that connection.
other wireless connections that are not metered will be unaffected and if you connect to any others that are metered you will need to set them each individually as metered.
I don't know this will work for a dongle or if you tether via usb.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
it all depends on what you think they are going to see.
the things I do on my computer, shopping on ebay or amazon, watching the odd movie or tv series on sky or youtube, playing sto or solitaire, browsing the internet for useless information and sending the odd benign email to friends or family (nothing private that is saved for face to face discussion), all this gets lost in the cacoffiny of the millions of users who do the same thing.
It sounds like you only use your computer for entertainment and consumption. I use my computers for work, meaning I am privy to sensitive information. A backdoor that I welcome into my systems can not only expose data that could be used against the companies I do business with, but could also land me in legal hot water due to non-disclosure and confidentiality agreements. I also use my computer to manage my finances, properties, bills, investments and taxes. I certainly don't want that information floating around out there.
And I don't know how you imagine computer surveillance works, but it's not just a group of people sitting around trying to watch millions of people, it's automated. See: NSA and PRISM
unless you are planning on overthrowing the government or joining some undesirable terrorist group or to commit somesuch unlawful deed then frankly I don't give a monkeys and I don't suppose Microsoft or anyone else will eather.
If it involves money or information that could lead to personal gain, sure, lots of people would be interested. I don't know how you aren't familiar with the rampant data breaches, identity theft, stalking and fraud that happens online, but you might want to read up on that. I also recommend looking into the activities of groups like Hacking Team, LulzSec and Anonymous.
People who are obesses with 100 percent privacy on the internet clearly have something to hide as you will NEVER have privacy when you're connected online. Just accept it. And If anyone thinks Windows 8 is better than 10, well, I give you props for defending 8, not many are willing to.
You bet I have something to hide. In fact, I have a lot to hide. So does everyone in the world, that doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong.
As for not having privacy online, well you better go tell that to enterprise and the world governments that operate online under the belief that their systems are reasonably secure. Perhaps all of the people using or providing encryption and secure communications services like VPN should just close up shop right now.
it all depends on what you think they are going to see.
the things I do on my computer, shopping on ebay or amazon, watching the odd movie or tv series on sky or youtube, playing sto or solitaire, browsing the internet for useless information and sending the odd benign email to friends or family (nothing private that is saved for face to face discussion), all this gets lost in the cacoffiny of the millions of users who do the same thing.
It sounds like you only use your computer for entertainment and consumption. I use my computers for work, meaning I am privy to sensitive information. A backdoor that I welcome into my systems can not only expose data that could be used against the companies I do business with, but could also land me in legal hot water due to non-disclosure and confidentiality agreements. I also use my computer to manage my finances, properties, bills, investments and taxes. I certainly don't want that information floating around out there.
And I don't know how you imagine computer surveillance works, but it's not just a group of people sitting around trying to watch millions of people, it's automated. See: NSA and PRISM
unless you are planning on overthrowing the government or joining some undesirable terrorist group or to commit somesuch unlawful deed then frankly I don't give a monkeys and I don't suppose Microsoft or anyone else will eather.
If it involves money or information that could lead to personal gain, sure, lots of people would be interested. I don't know how you aren't familiar with the rampant data breaches, identity theft, stalking and fraud that happens online, but you might want to read up on that. I also recommend looking into the activities of groups like Hacking Team, LulzSec and Anonymous.
People who are obesses with 100 percent privacy on the internet clearly have something to hide as you will NEVER have privacy when you're connected online. Just accept it. And If anyone thinks Windows 8 is better than 10, well, I give you props for defending 8, not many are willing to.
You bet I have something to hide. In fact, I have a lot to hide. So does everyone in the world, that doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong.
As for not having privacy online, well you better go tell that to enterprise and the world governments that operate online under the belief that their systems are reasonably secure. Perhaps all of the people using or providing encryption and secure communications services like VPN should just close up shop right now.
and yet windows 10 is the securest system you can get more so then windows 7 or 8.
if you want to keep your system safe from hackers who would steal you intellectual properties or money the safest thing to do is upgrade to windows 10.
especially in light of the fact that when mainstream support for windows 7 ended in January and although security updates will continue for a few years the speed at which security updates are released might not be as regular as they are for windows 10, and I would expect windows 8 to be not that much better.
quote: "windows 10 has more built-in security protections to help safeguard you against viruses, phishing and malware, it's the most secure Windows ever."
and I expect this level of security and support will be maintained with the highest priority over any other system.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I actually do like Win 10, as I said earlier I've been running it for a while in beta, and it plays well at a domain level - much better than Win 8.x! MS do have a habit of shooting themselves in both feet though.
I have my work cut out when I inevitably have to roll Windows 10 out across my network users. Hopefully by then the dust will have settled lol
I have windows 10 myself right now and i know that the second of those articles is not correct. While the ability to share networks is on by default you have to manually go into the settings and pick the networks you want to share for anything to actually go anywhere.
If you are reading this you have stopped reading my post and are now reading my signature.
I actually do like Win 10, as I said earlier I've been running it for a while in beta, and it plays well at a domain level - much better than Win 8.x! MS do have a habit of shooting themselves in both feet though.
I have my work cut out when I inevitably have to roll Windows 10 out across my network users. Hopefully by then the dust will have settled lol
the thing is unless you are totally paranoid about someone else knowing every little thing you do on line (in which case you should not be on line in the first place), all the things that are shared are completely irrelevant, if you worried that someone might see you have been browsing amazon looking for queen cd or harry potter first editions and viewing twilight zone episodes on you tube then sure this info might be there for others to see.
secure information like banking, paypal, sign in user names for web sites and private emails, documents and information you have on your pc, anything you send to the cloud in a private folder basically all the things that really should be kept secure are kept secure.
I know in the past Microsoft`s reputation might not be 100 perfect but with other systems they didn't have millions of insiders testing the system for 10 months prior to release, looking for bugs and security vulnerabilities to make this the most secure and stable system on its first public release day as possible.
sure there will be more security updates as time goes on but then they are still releasing security updates for windows 7 and 8 so if your worried about that perhaps you should not be using a pc at all at least not an on line pc at any rate.
the thing with Wi-Fi sense sure others might be able to share your non metered internet connection but they wont be able to access other pc`s through that connection or see your information plus they also have to be in range of you're wireless signal in the first place, and don't forget it works both ways you will be able to access their connection also.
finally all of these things that are shared like web activity and shared internet can be easily turned off in the settings and there's plenty of info on how to do this on the internet for anyone who doesn't know how.
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When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Made the jump to Windows 10 a few days ago. No problems to report. I like it, so far, very much. Much more intuitive than Windows 8. It's more like Windows 7 than Windows 8 although there are Windows 8 elements in it. STO is working fine.
and yet windows 10 is the securest system you can get more so then windows 7 or 8.
Lol.. do you realize that is the same thing Microsoft say about each one of their newest operating systems, right?? and that is focused on users with business applications and not gamers or regular users??? of course every new operating system SHOULD be more secure than the previous one.. thats pretty obvious. But unless you use your computer for pretty sensitive stuff, you have more than enough with the "security" that for example, windows 7 provides you. More security than that.. by now, for regular users its meaningless.
"windows 10 is the securest system you can get more so then windows 7 or 8"
That is an unproven (as of now) statement.
Microsoft may claim that it was "DESIGNED to be" or it "is their INTENTION to build" the most secure Windows OS ever, but that is a long way from proven fact.
It MIGHT be proven to be true in the future, after being released in the wild for some time and analyzed and pounded on by those looking for exploits, but until such time, this is purely marketing and speculation and hope.
Windows 7 on the other hand has the virtue of having been pounded on and patched for years, strengthening it and removing attack vectors. Is it bulletproof.. NO.
Windows X will be available for free for 1 year. there is no rush to upgrade unless you want the features included in Windows X
Windows 7 SP1 will be recieving extended support until Jan 14, 2020
Windows 8/8.1 end of mainstream support January 9, 2018, extended support until January 10, 2023
My advice would be to wait 6 months to install Windows X or wait until you buy your next computer where it will be pre-installed.
By then we should have some indication of how secure the system has proven to be and also how concerns regarding access to your personal information play out.
and yet windows 10 is the securest system you can get more so then windows 7 or 8.
Lol.. do you realize that is the same thing Microsoft say about each one of their newest operating systems, right?? and that is focused on users with business applications and not gamers or regular users??? of course every new operating system SHOULD be more secure than the previous one.. thats pretty obvious. But unless you use your computer for pretty sensitive stuff, you have more than enough with the "security" that for example, windows 7 provides you. More security than that.. by now, for regular users its meaningless.
of course a cheep combination lock is probably good enough for most people if they don't have anything particularly valuable to have stolen but if a person does have something valuable to be stolen they would probably prefer a much more expensive high security padlock preferably with a personal key of some kind as given time the cheep combination lock can be opened.
just because someone has nothing valuable to steal does not mean they would not take the high security padlock over the combination lock if the high security padlock was on a limited free offer.
sure windows 7 and 8 are probably secure enough for most casual gamers but that doesn't mean the much more secure windows 10 is not the better system to have especially while its on this limited free offer and as you say "of course every new operating system SHOULD be more secure than the previous one.. thats pretty obvious.".
as given time some hacker might find a way in to a windows 7 or 8 system especially as security updates start to dwindle as they get nearer and nearer to the end of their extended support life and even though I have nothing very much to steal it doesn't mean I would like the thought of someone hacking my computer, after all they may not take anything but they could leave a nasty virus.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Security updates don't "dwindle". Security updates become fewer over time as there are fewer problems to patch thanks to the long history of patches during the lifespan of an OS
Security updates don't "dwindle". Security updates become fewer over time as there are fewer problems to patch thanks to the long history of patches during the lifespan of an OS
so by that logic when the security updates stop altogether its not because the OS is so old its just not worth bothering to support anymore its because the system is so secure no one could ever possibly compromise it.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I swear to God I'll reformat my whole drive and shove 7 back in if it doesn't. I'm actually a little scared some of my programs and games will TRIBBLE out with 10.
While it's free download I'm very hesitant.
I agree 100%. Amen!
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PnP Red Box DM & Player (74 - ?). NWN + SoU + HotU (4-03),
NWN Diamond Edition, Neverwinter Nights Complete (NWN + NWN2).
I wonder if any of you remember a speech Billl Gates gave back in the 90s about Total Information Awareness. Read the Eula on Windows 10. If you don't opt out of privacy settings they can and will pretty much have access to everything on your computer at any time. Yes that includes the contents of your entire hard drive and folder system. Enjoy your Windows 10 NSA Edition. I'll stick to 7. It's free for a reason.
"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services."
"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services."
there are other service providers who will have access to some or all of these things so if you are concerned you should not use these, they are your internet service providers, your email provider, your mobile phone company (especially if you have a smart phone) and also steer clear of any apple or android devices.
also steer clear of smart TV's.
I would also avoid using landline telephones if you fear your private conversations might be overheard.
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When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
for anyone wanting to keep their files totally secure from prying eyes it might be worth checking out "SafeHouse Explorer" its completely free and creates as many password protected encrypted folders as you wish to use on external and internal storage mediums such as usb sticks or you a hard drive for you to store any filed you wish to keep private plus you can even use it in the cloud.
We are all upgrading to windows 10 next week for free so lets hope STO will work on it. Cryptic better support windows 8 and 10 since most will be using those systems
Microsoft may claim that it was "DESIGNED to be" or it "is their INTENTION to build" the most secure Windows OS ever, but that is a long way from proven fact.
stop promising the moon is made of cheese. windows 10 as i understand it has some features that are on by default that can spy on your actions. those same means can be used by a persistent hacker to gain back entrance into your computer itself. nothing is secure from attack by a hacker, also the programs you download, especially if your pirating can make your computer even less secure. any number of things can happen and here you are promising the moon is made from cheese..
microsoft couldnt protect an ant from being crushed under foot let alone the security of your computer. if microsoft had security in mind we wouldnt be in need of these 3rd party AV software types, microsoft would of already had it embedded into the software..
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I have encountered a similar problem that is being reported with the kernel file. Apparently, one of three things is making it cause a memory leak (malware or drivers that need updated or turning off the windows help tool), in my case it was turning off the windows help tool.
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If you have a metered Internet connection, setting your network connection to metered in Windows 10 can help you reduce the amount of data you send and receive.
If a wireless network is set as a metered connection, then:
•Any app that relies on an Internet connection to update or display info might be limited in the amount of data it can download or display.
•Windows Updates won't automatically download over a metered connection (where charges may apply).
•Apps downloading from the Windows Store might be paused.
•Start screen and Start menu live tiles might stop updating.
•Offline files might not sync automatically.
•Ethernet network connections can't be set to metered.
for a full walkthrough of how to set you connection as metered see this web site.
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3162-wireless-network-metered-connection-set-windows-10-a.html#option1s2
once you set up a wireless connection as metered the settings will be remembered for that connection.
other wireless connections that are not metered will be unaffected and if you connect to any others that are metered you will need to set them each individually as metered.
I don't know this will work for a dongle or if you tether via usb.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
It sounds like you only use your computer for entertainment and consumption. I use my computers for work, meaning I am privy to sensitive information. A backdoor that I welcome into my systems can not only expose data that could be used against the companies I do business with, but could also land me in legal hot water due to non-disclosure and confidentiality agreements. I also use my computer to manage my finances, properties, bills, investments and taxes. I certainly don't want that information floating around out there.
And I don't know how you imagine computer surveillance works, but it's not just a group of people sitting around trying to watch millions of people, it's automated. See: NSA and PRISM If it involves money or information that could lead to personal gain, sure, lots of people would be interested. I don't know how you aren't familiar with the rampant data breaches, identity theft, stalking and fraud that happens online, but you might want to read up on that. I also recommend looking into the activities of groups like Hacking Team, LulzSec and Anonymous.
You bet I have something to hide. In fact, I have a lot to hide. So does everyone in the world, that doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong.
As for not having privacy online, well you better go tell that to enterprise and the world governments that operate online under the belief that their systems are reasonably secure. Perhaps all of the people using or providing encryption and secure communications services like VPN should just close up shop right now.
That's enough to keep me away.
and yet windows 10 is the securest system you can get more so then windows 7 or 8.
if you want to keep your system safe from hackers who would steal you intellectual properties or money the safest thing to do is upgrade to windows 10.
especially in light of the fact that when mainstream support for windows 7 ended in January and although security updates will continue for a few years the speed at which security updates are released might not be as regular as they are for windows 10, and I would expect windows 8 to be not that much better.
quote: "windows 10 has more built-in security protections to help safeguard you against viruses, phishing and malware, it's the most secure Windows ever."
and I expect this level of security and support will be maintained with the highest priority over any other system.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Especially when I read articles like:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/03/windows_10_privacy_defaults/
or
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/30/windows_10_wi_fi_sense/
I actually do like Win 10, as I said earlier I've been running it for a while in beta, and it plays well at a domain level - much better than Win 8.x! MS do have a habit of shooting themselves in both feet though.
I have my work cut out when I inevitably have to roll Windows 10 out across my network users. Hopefully by then the dust will have settled lol
the thing is unless you are totally paranoid about someone else knowing every little thing you do on line (in which case you should not be on line in the first place), all the things that are shared are completely irrelevant, if you worried that someone might see you have been browsing amazon looking for queen cd or harry potter first editions and viewing twilight zone episodes on you tube then sure this info might be there for others to see.
secure information like banking, paypal, sign in user names for web sites and private emails, documents and information you have on your pc, anything you send to the cloud in a private folder basically all the things that really should be kept secure are kept secure.
I know in the past Microsoft`s reputation might not be 100 perfect but with other systems they didn't have millions of insiders testing the system for 10 months prior to release, looking for bugs and security vulnerabilities to make this the most secure and stable system on its first public release day as possible.
sure there will be more security updates as time goes on but then they are still releasing security updates for windows 7 and 8 so if your worried about that perhaps you should not be using a pc at all at least not an on line pc at any rate.
the thing with Wi-Fi sense sure others might be able to share your non metered internet connection but they wont be able to access other pc`s through that connection or see your information plus they also have to be in range of you're wireless signal in the first place, and don't forget it works both ways you will be able to access their connection also.
finally all of these things that are shared like web activity and shared internet can be easily turned off in the settings and there's plenty of info on how to do this on the internet for anyone who doesn't know how.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Lol.. do you realize that is the same thing Microsoft say about each one of their newest operating systems, right?? and that is focused on users with business applications and not gamers or regular users??? of course every new operating system SHOULD be more secure than the previous one.. thats pretty obvious. But unless you use your computer for pretty sensitive stuff, you have more than enough with the "security" that for example, windows 7 provides you. More security than that.. by now, for regular users its meaningless.
That is an unproven (as of now) statement.
Microsoft may claim that it was "DESIGNED to be" or it "is their INTENTION to build" the most secure Windows OS ever, but that is a long way from proven fact.
It MIGHT be proven to be true in the future, after being released in the wild for some time and analyzed and pounded on by those looking for exploits, but until such time, this is purely marketing and speculation and hope.
Windows 7 on the other hand has the virtue of having been pounded on and patched for years, strengthening it and removing attack vectors. Is it bulletproof.. NO.
Windows X will be available for free for 1 year. there is no rush to upgrade unless you want the features included in Windows X
Windows 7 SP1 will be recieving extended support until Jan 14, 2020
Windows 8/8.1 end of mainstream support January 9, 2018, extended support until January 10, 2023
My advice would be to wait 6 months to install Windows X or wait until you buy your next computer where it will be pre-installed.
By then we should have some indication of how secure the system has proven to be and also how concerns regarding access to your personal information play out.
of course a cheep combination lock is probably good enough for most people if they don't have anything particularly valuable to have stolen but if a person does have something valuable to be stolen they would probably prefer a much more expensive high security padlock preferably with a personal key of some kind as given time the cheep combination lock can be opened.
just because someone has nothing valuable to steal does not mean they would not take the high security padlock over the combination lock if the high security padlock was on a limited free offer.
sure windows 7 and 8 are probably secure enough for most casual gamers but that doesn't mean the much more secure windows 10 is not the better system to have especially while its on this limited free offer and as you say "of course every new operating system SHOULD be more secure than the previous one.. thats pretty obvious.".
as given time some hacker might find a way in to a windows 7 or 8 system especially as security updates start to dwindle as they get nearer and nearer to the end of their extended support life and even though I have nothing very much to steal it doesn't mean I would like the thought of someone hacking my computer, after all they may not take anything but they could leave a nasty virus.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
so by that logic when the security updates stop altogether its not because the OS is so old its just not worth bothering to support anymore its because the system is so secure no one could ever possibly compromise it.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I agree 100%. Amen!
PnP Red Box DM & Player (74 - ?). NWN + SoU + HotU (4-03),
NWN Diamond Edition, Neverwinter Nights Complete (NWN + NWN2).
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/
there are other service providers who will have access to some or all of these things so if you are concerned you should not use these, they are your internet service providers, your email provider, your mobile phone company (especially if you have a smart phone) and also steer clear of any apple or android devices.
also steer clear of smart TV's.
I would also avoid using landline telephones if you fear your private conversations might be overheard.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
GWX
CPU: 0%
Memory: 0.1MB
Disk: 0 MB/s
Network: 0 Mbps
omg micro$oft such bloatware how dare they give away this upgrade for free rabble rabble!
see here -
http://www.safehousesoftware.com/SafeHouseExplorer.aspx
and here -
https://whatsonmypc.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/safehouse-explorer-2014/
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Very well enjoy your bloatware.
May it bring you interesting times.
Runs fine on 10 for me.
Except re-running Broken Circles at least.
it runs fine on windows 10.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
stop promising the moon is made of cheese. windows 10 as i understand it has some features that are on by default that can spy on your actions. those same means can be used by a persistent hacker to gain back entrance into your computer itself. nothing is secure from attack by a hacker, also the programs you download, especially if your pirating can make your computer even less secure. any number of things can happen and here you are promising the moon is made from cheese..
microsoft couldnt protect an ant from being crushed under foot let alone the security of your computer. if microsoft had security in mind we wouldnt be in need of these 3rd party AV software types, microsoft would of already had it embedded into the software..
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.