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askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
Hey folks its been awhile since ive taken the time to update the FCT.

So, since Im on leave from work, I want to get it updated and i need your help! If you know of things that should be added, post away on this thread. I will either have us mods make it a mod only decision or get with Trendy to make sure we got an up to date dev response.

Please understand these must be questions we have seen for at least a year or more pop up numerous times. Questions for example about lag or season 10 etc will not be responded to.

Thamks all! :smile:
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I have a few:

    Discussions on End-game content.

    Romulans being their own faction.

    Discussions about the game engine.

    Discussions on when the licence from CBS will expire.

    Klingon Science ship.

    Any suggestion on increasing (good or bad) monetization in the game.

    Current state of STO threads.

    Threads asking when removed content is coming back.

    I left the game a while ago, is it worth coming back?

    Why should I spend money on this game?

    Changing of old characters, species change, gender change of characters already created.
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  • primar13primar13 Member Posts: 1,896 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2015
    • Why does this Link not work (explain the forum move)
    • Earth's in the Alpha Quadrant :lol: (link to Taco's Thread - Sector Space FAQ
    • Whats a Fleet
    • Whats an Armada
    • How do I join a Fleet
    • Whats your Favorite __________________ Poll :lol:
    • Whats your least Favorite __________________ Poll
    • Where is my Forum Title :smile:
    • Where is the Dev Tracker? :lol:
    • Where is the Bug Forums
    • Why isn't ____________________ Ship in-game
    • Why isn't ____________________ Item In-game
    • Why isn't ____________________ System in Sector Space
    • Anything regarding LAG/DC's and the death of the game
    • Why are the devs doing _________________ when they should be doing ____________!!!! Insert any of the Following Nouns/verbs at will --> (Story, PVE, PVP, Foundry, Ships, Bugs, Lag, DC's)
    • THESE FORUMS SUCK! Threads :smile:
    • Screenshots - Add Thomas's FOV Guide to the current Blerb LINK from Reddit

    I like what you have in the Old one, I think Most/All of that needs to stay in the new one.
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Things relating to and any thread that ends up including.

    • sexual preferences & and discussions that are around this subject - every thread of this nature ends up a let's bash things that we don't understand etc etc so we'll just turn the tread into something where it upsets people and since they seem to pop up when it's a weekend this is an important one as they seem to go on and on and on until closed on Monday.
    • religion - for obvious reasons.
    • end game bashing - things like this story sucks etc etc.
    • T6 request threads - yes everyone has views on what they want for a T6 ship but it gets old seeing it turn into flame wars.
    • The I quit threads disguised as taking a break threads but ill still bash the game.
    • can we have this please thread
    • lag etc threads
    • please fix threads that aren't in correct section that end up people flaming the op instead of helping.

    * if I think of anymore ill add to this post *
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    ...can we have this please thread ...

    Acctually, depending on what is being asked for that should be allowed. However people need to remember to put their requests into the right area (E.G. new costumes belong in the Art of Star Trek Online).
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    primar13 wrote: »
    • Why does this Link not work (explain the forum move)
    • Earth's in the Alpha Quadrant :lol: (link to Taco's Thread - Sector Space FAQ
    • Whats a Fleet
    • Whats an Armada
    • How do I join a Fleet
    • Whats your Favorite __________________ Poll :lol:
    • Whats your least Favorite __________________ Poll
    • Where is my Forum Title :smile:
    • Where is the Dev Tracker? :lol:
    • Where is the Bug Forums
    • Why isn't ____________________ Ship in-game
    • Why isn't ____________________ Item In-game
    • Why isn't ____________________ System in Sector Space
    • Anything regarding LAG/DC's and the death of the game
    • Why are the devs doing _________________ when they should be doing ____________!!!! Insert any of the Following Nouns/verbs at will --> (Story, PVE, PVP, Foundry, Ships, Bugs, Lag, DC's)
    • THESE FORUMS SUCK! Threads :smile:
    • Screenshots - Add Thomas's FOV Guide to the current Blerb LINK from Reddit

    I like what you have in the Old one, I think Most/All of that needs to stay in the new one.

    he said a YEAR or more; most of those have popped up within the last few weeks​​
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    primar13 wrote: »
    • Why does this Link not work (explain the forum move)
    • Earth's in the Alpha Quadrant :lol: (link to Taco's Thread - Sector Space FAQ
    • Whats a Fleet
    • Whats an Armada
    • How do I join a Fleet
    • Whats your Favorite __________________ Poll :lol:
    • Whats your least Favorite __________________ Poll
    • Where is my Forum Title :smile:
    • Where is the Dev Tracker? :lol:
    • Where is the Bug Forums
    • Why isn't ____________________ Ship in-game
    • Why isn't ____________________ Item In-game
    • Why isn't ____________________ System in Sector Space
    • Anything regarding LAG/DC's and the death of the game
    • Why are the devs doing _________________ when they should be doing ____________!!!! Insert any of the Following Nouns/verbs at will --> (Story, PVE, PVP, Foundry, Ships, Bugs, Lag, DC's)
    • THESE FORUMS SUCK! Threads :smile:
    • Screenshots - Add Thomas's FOV Guide to the current Blerb LINK from Reddit

    I like what you have in the Old one, I think Most/All of that needs to stay in the new one.

    he said a YEAR or more; most of those have popped up within the last few weeks​​

    true but there have been some of these pop up every other day more than once etc so they really need to be in the FCT tbh.



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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Threads complaining about high DPS being the most important part of the game.

    Threads about the Ferengi Nandi Warship (summer event ship) flying backwards.

    Polls asking if we like the new forums.

    Threads discussing sexual orientation, politics, religion, or other controversial topics. As it was already pointed out, threads like these always end up in flames, almost to the point you have to throw water on your computer to put it out. I think the forums rules doesn't allow such stuff to be discussed on the forums anyway but it needs to be clearly spelled out because most people who engage in such discussions don't read the rules and/or use common sense.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    The USS Vengeance from Into Darkness isn't going to happen. Deal with the Avenger/Arbiter.

    STO is a Star Trek video game, not a Star Trek simulator.

    No, we aren't going to go back to the old forums. You'll get over Vanilla eventually.

    Peghazi was a nontroversy.

    No, we're not getting full 3D flight no matter how many times it's brought up. Star Trek takes place on a single plane 99% of the time, and so does STO.

    The lag and rubberbanding is the result of resource-intensive code, it's likely not on your end.

    Only a Sith deals in absolutes. So please avoid saying things like "Never" "Impossible" "Everybody" in whatever it is you're about to write on the forums.

    Sol System is in the Beta Quadrant because of its easy accessibility for the early storyline, and in canon Earth sits on the boundary between the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, but you can't have Earth in two different quadrants on the galactic map.

    No. Cryptic really does not care if you're fed up with the game and are leaving forever and ever. For that matter, neither do we.

    People who disagree with you aren't trolls. Your emotional state is your own personal responsibility, not those in the thread. Just because you're offended at something someone said does not mean you are correct.

    No, STO/Delta Rising is not the reason PWE had so many lay-offs. NW lost more people than STO, so if you aren't familiar with business and economics, stop trying to pretend otherwise just to "stick it" to the devs.
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    Nice Iconians :tongue:

    Folks, I see a few things popping up especially about religion discussions. These are already not allowed by the forum policies so not really needed in the FCT. Also, please let us make the decision on what should be added or not. This is an open thread to post your questions that you've seen in the forums a lot.
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I'll try to keep it brief:
    1) Requests for ships from the "Abrams-verse".
    2) T6/T5/endgame/upgraded/etc Constitution.
    3) Rewording of the "Do this or else"/ Threat threads portion of the FCT.
    4) General notice about bug reporting, lag spikes, disconnections, etc, inclusive.
    5) Requests for 3rd party ships/races/content/etc - OR - how copyright works 101.
    6) Stuff pertaining to voice actors/actresses.
    7) Again, ban "DOOOOOOM!" threads, of all shapes, wording, and function.
    8) No full motion "3D Star Trek Simulator".
    9) Everything Iconians said.
    10) Everything Monkeybone13 said.
    11) Everything Primar13 said.
    12) Stuff pertaining to immersion breaking.
    13) The "Why isn't (insert whatever it is they want) in game?" (See point 5).
    14) Whinging of endgame content.
    15) Cloaking devices for EVERYONE!!!
    16) Everything Trendy (may or may not) say.
    17) The overflow EC that vanishes due to the player not having the EC cap raiser.
    18) Dilithium increase requests, refinement cap or otherwise.
    19) Factions (EG: Add Cardassians, Make Romulans independent, et al).
    20) Spoilers.
    21) Gold-Selling/chat bots.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    I will first say what I think should not be included, and then say what I think should be included.

    Rather than adding restrictions on what we can discuss based on this or that discussion having erupted into a flamewar in the past, enforcing the no flaming rule would be preferable. Trying to paint discussions which were not initially about something which others derailed it into becoming as partaking in the violations others committed seems like an attempt to censor things which, per se, are in no way violations of the rules (I refer of course to a recent event announcement which was in no way a violation of the forum rules but which was speedily turned into something else by others). In order to do this enforcement of the no flaming rule adequately, more forum moderators will be necessary. Two is not enough. That's no reflection on our two Mods, but they can't be everywhere all the time, and a few more would lighten their burden and help keep things civil.

    Romulan players are not likely to stop requesting full faction status, or at least a greater semblance of full faction status. Prohibiting such would be unjust, whether you think it's a good idea or not. As iconians pointed out: "Just because you're offended at something someone said does not mean you are correct." And I would add, "Just because you don't like the idea does not mean that you are correct." Whether the Devs have said "never" or not (they've said this about other things we later got) is not a justification for prohibition on such requests, and if I can offer them methods to facilitate such a change (as I have done and will continue to do as they occur to me), suggesting that I be disallowed from doing so seems to be nothing more than a desire to stifle Romulan players and "keep them in their place" due to some perceived threat. I personally detest seeing requests for a Cardassian faction, a Liberated Borg faction, and several other factions (in part, but only in part, because I believe the issues with the KDF and RRF should be addressed first), but my displeasure at seeing these threads is not sufficient cause to say "No, you can't do this, and any thread which does it will be locked and ignored." Again, flames could be put out in a timely fashion with a few more forum moderators.

    T6 request threads can be placed in the appropriate forum ( http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/categories/the-art-of-star-trek-online has a "System"-created thread for canon ship requests: http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/1021654/the-wishlist-thread-canon-ships-edition-2-0#latest -- so I hardly think T6 request threads should be viewed as forbidden territory). Again, a few more forum moderators with the ability to move threads to fora where they belong, or merge such threads into that one I linked just above, if such merging be possible) would help with this.

    "Can we have this?" threads should not be prohibited. Player suggestions/requests, while some may find them annoying (and while some examples of this type of thread may be naive), are an important means for players to voice their desires for the game. Sometimes the Devs even act on such threads. Perhaps, though, there could be a forum specifically set aside for "Suggestions." General Discussion is not a catch-all, but it is currently the most visited forum here, and people are likely to want their suggestions/requests to get as much attention as possible, so such threads would likely still show up here, but again, goodness, must I say it again? A few more forum moderators could help keep these threads in the appropriate forum (if the idea of a "Suggestions" forum were implemented, and if not, what option would players have other than General Discussion for offering such suggestions or making such requests?).

    I will agree most heartily that DOOM posts need to stop. However, this is already included in the FCT thread. The solution is, yes, again, to have more forum moderators to keep things in line with the policy. I also dislike seeing anti-Cryptic propaganda and think it has no place here (this is distinct from rational criticism, however, especially when it be constructive, but that's a far cry from people renaming the Studio "Craptic" and such). Several other suggestions have been offered here which I find amenable, but these two are the big issues from my perspective. I would also suggest that one of the reasons General Discussion has largely been used as a catch-all is because of the small number of forum moderators; if topics were more quickly and consistently moved to fora where they are appropriate, General Discussion would eventually settle down into something less ... chaotic, and other fora would begin to see more traffic and proper use.
  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    I think you're going about this the wrong way. I suggest that instead of picking topics to censor, you should simply revoke posting privileges to users who have reached... 2,000 posts. After this point, there isn't much one can add that we haven't already read. We know your thoughts, you have become a frequently created thread/post yourself.

    How much more thought and care would be put into posts if the poster knew he had a limit. Most of the people in this thread would be gone or nearly so and wouldn't waste their precious remaining posts trying to squelch the non-offending to the TOS threads of others.

    Furthermore, shouldn't there be forum churn to match the in-game levels?
    Sounds like a good poll idea! How many posts should be the limit?
    or.. How many people with more than 2k posts would you actually miss?
    It's not like they'd really be gone though. They'd just graduate to Reddit.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

    That's an absolute. :p
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    fourxgamer wrote: »
    I think you're going about this the wrong way. I suggest that instead of picking topics to censor, you should simply revoke posting privileges to users who have reached... 2,000 posts. After this point, there isn't much one can add that we haven't already read. We know your thoughts, you have become a frequently created thread/post yourself.

    In an 1899 edition of the comedy periodical, Punch Magazine, a look at the "coming century" was offered. In colloquy, a man asked, "Isn't there a clerk who can examine patents?" A boy replied, "Quite unnecessary, Sir. Everything that can be invented has been invented."

    We all know that such a claim was nonsensical, but it was intended as such (the attribution of the final statement to Charles H. Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, is apocryphal; had he actually uttered this, it would likely not have been intended as comedy, but he did not). STO is an ever-evolving MMO. New things are always coming down the pipeline. No matter how many posts a person has made in the past, new content merits new comment.
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    How much more thought and care would be put into posts if the poster knew he had a limit. Most of the people in this thread would be gone or nearly so and wouldn't waste their precious remaining posts trying to squelch the non-offending to the TOS threads of others.

    Furthermore, shouldn't there be forum churn to match the in-game levels?
    Sounds like a good poll idea! How many posts should be the limit?
    or.. How many people with more than 2k posts would you actually miss?
    It's not like they'd really be gone though. They'd just graduate to Reddit.

    This suggestion is unrealistic to such an extent that I am inclined to believe that you're attempting comedy as well.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    Here is the ones I see often:

    1 - Request for JJ Trek ships
    2 - Dillithium cap on refining to be raised
    3 - "Doom" threads
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    Trying to think of some that haven't been touched yet...

    1) "X is too expensive, make it cheaper" posts. Quite honesty, there are much more expensive things out there in other MMOs than what we got here. Let me tell you the stories my brother's told me of bringing back characters or race changes for 20-30 dollars.
    2) The anti-Cryptic rhetoric. Yes, Cryptic isn't perfect. Yes, they're trying to fix things. No, not even Star Trek was amazing with all of their stories. No, just because story plot A or game mechanic B doesn't mesh with your accepted headcanon C gives you the right to insult everyone around you.
    3) Changing the maps to match story events. There's a reason Cryptic isn't trying to change the maps to fit the situation here. Maybe they don't want to. Maybe CBS said "no". Whatever it is, you're most likely not getting your Star Trek Online: Mass Effect edition game maps.
  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I'll go with the one that I would mod in another game forum.

    Threads that complain about complainers.

    Usually it's a general thread that just complain about all complainers in general, instead of just sending feedback to whichever thread(s) that people are complain whatever it is. I mod these because they are:

    A ) Unproductive
    B ) Starts flame wars
    C ) A waste of valuable kbs of space on the servers


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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    I'm liking what I'm seeing folks! :smile: Keep up the comments and ideas!
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    I will first say what I think should not be included, and then say what I think should be included.

    Rather than adding restrictions on what we can discuss based on this or that discussion having erupted into a flamewar in the past, enforcing the no flaming rule would be preferable. Trying to paint discussions which were not initially about something which others derailed it into becoming as partaking in the violations others committed seems like an attempt to censor things which, per se, are in no way violations of the rules (I refer of course to a recent event announcement which was in no way a violation of the forum rules but which was speedily turned into something else by others). In order to do this enforcement of the no flaming rule adequately, more forum moderators will be necessary. Two is not enough. That's no reflection on our two Mods, but they can't be everywhere all the time, and a few more would lighten their burden and help keep things civil.

    I agree with this...it's less an issue of "ban more topics" than "add more mods" AND "add mods in more time zones and on weekends." The degree of understaffing for a forum this size is staggering, and the fact that people know they can get away with murder on the weekend just ensures that people do just that.

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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    Many of the things I would like to be addressed somehow have already been mentioned. Most important would be the "useless flame bait" thing (even more so in the in game chat, which unfortunately cannot be monitored effectively at all. So no things about your ethical compass whatsoever, no talk about politics (real world that is), religion (that includes atheism/agnosticism). When we're at it, one thing of common complaints I read is "Cryptic doesn't care about Science/KDF/Rom". When there is a real topic at hand (like the disparity of T6 Sci ships) and the post is decent, it should be okay, if it's only "What did you expect? Cryptic never cared about (insert as above)" it should be going.

    Also ANY post that uses variations of names to take a cheap shot at others is A-non-OK. "Craptic" as an example was given, not as regular here (though in zone chat) are things like "Obummer". You get the idea. Nothing of this has any information except that you don't like X and don't have a sense of humor, because this just isn't funny.

    All that being said, I think none of it belongs in a FCT/FAQ section but into a basic behavior part, which maybe should be added and enforced. In chat I can (and do) ignore anything like this, here unfortunately I can not, and every constructive discussion includes a couple of all-caps-no-punctuation-run-on-sentence rant that just doesn't help the discussion at hand at all.

    IF such a behavior thread would be included, I'd like to add a suggestion that I once added to a forum I moderated and which comes in quite handily at times, which would be the rule "Any attempt to explore the exact limit of a rule is a violation in itself". This could probably be worded better, English is only my 3rd language, and it leads to Gödelesque meta problems when used on itself. But the general approach of trying "how much of a thing I know isn't wanted can I actually do?" is a huge problem in forums.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    IF such a behavior thread would be included, I'd like to add a suggestion that I once added to a forum I moderated and which comes in quite handily at times, which would be the rule "Any attempt to explore the exact limit of a rule is a violation in itself". This could probably be worded better, English is only my 3rd language, and it leads to Gödelesque meta problems when used on itself. But the general approach of trying "how much of a thing I know isn't wanted can I actually do?" is a huge problem in forums.

    While it would require great caution in exercising it, I can definitely think of certain cases where people deliberately push the boundaries and then try to excuse it in a way that resembles kindergarteners in the backseat of a car going, "I'm not touching him! I'm not touching him!" when they know full well how aggravating they are being.

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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    xyquarze wrote: »
    Many of the things I would like to be addressed somehow have already been mentioned. Most important would be the "useless flame bait" thing (even more so in the in game chat, which unfortunately cannot be monitored effectively at all. So no things about your ethical compass whatsoever, no talk about politics (real world that is), religion (that includes atheism/agnosticism). When we're at it, one thing of common complaints I read is "Cryptic doesn't care about Science/KDF/Rom". When there is a real topic at hand (like the disparity of T6 Sci ships) and the post is decent, it should be okay, if it's only "What did you expect? Cryptic never cared about (insert as above)" it should be going.

    Honestly, I think "Cryptic doesn't care about X" as a whole should be banned. I mean, seriously, how many times are we going to see people complaining about how they don't focus on Science/KDF/Romulans/PVP/EXP Gains/etc. These kinds of posts are, as you said, flame bait and circlejerk worthy, especially towards the players who tend to flock in the boards and take in potshots.
    Also ANY post that uses variations of names to take a cheap shot at others is A-non-OK. "Craptic" as an example was given, not as regular here (though in zone chat) are things like "Obummer". You get the idea. Nothing of this has any information except that you don't like X and don't have a sense of humor, because this just isn't funny.

    Can we also put in "Chinese Overlords" in regards towards Perfect World?

  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    So no things about your ethical compass whatsoever, no talk about politics (real world that is), religion (that includes atheism/agnosticism).

    For better or for worse, these are topics which have been part of Trek since the beginning. Prohibiting such discussions would make for a poorer environment. Yes, there are people who cannot (or refuse to) separate their persons from their perspectives, and there are trolls who will pull "Copypasta" stunts, but depriving everyone of the ability to express themselves because of the abuses of a few is a draconian overreaction.
    xyquarze wrote: »
    When we're at it, one thing of common complaints I read is "Cryptic doesn't care about Science/KDF/Rom". When there is a real topic at hand (like the disparity of T6 Sci ships) and the post is decent, it should be okay, if it's only "What did you expect? Cryptic never cared about (insert as above)" it should be going.

    Also ANY post that uses variations of names to take a cheap shot at others is A-non-OK. "Craptic" as an example was given, not as regular here (though in zone chat) are things like "Obummer". You get the idea. Nothing of this has any information except that you don't like X and don't have a sense of humor, because this just isn't funny.

    I agree that these are unproductive, and a general waste of time and bandwidth.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    Can we also put in "Chinese Overlords" in regards towards Perfect World?

    eh, no, leave that be; every time someone says that, i immediately think of this ​​
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    xyquarze wrote: »
    So no things about your ethical compass whatsoever, no talk about politics (real world that is), religion (that includes atheism/agnosticism).

    For better or for worse, these are topics which have been part of Trek since the beginning. Prohibiting such discussions would make for a poorer environment. Yes, there are people who cannot (or refuse to) separate their persons from their perspectives, and there are trolls who will pull "Copypasta" stunts, but depriving everyone of the ability to express themselves because of the abuses of a few is a draconian overreaction.
    xyquarze wrote: »
    When we're at it, one thing of common complaints I read is "Cryptic doesn't care about Science/KDF/Rom". When there is a real topic at hand (like the disparity of T6 Sci ships) and the post is decent, it should be okay, if it's only "What did you expect? Cryptic never cared about (insert as above)" it should be going.

    Also ANY post that uses variations of names to take a cheap shot at others is A-non-OK. "Craptic" as an example was given, not as regular here (though in zone chat) are things like "Obummer". You get the idea. Nothing of this has any information except that you don't like X and don't have a sense of humor, because this just isn't funny.

    I agree that these are unproductive, and a general waste of time and bandwidth.
    Political discussions are banned along with religious discussions and have been since the forums first opened. This will not change.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    askray wrote: »
    Political discussions are banned along with religious discussions and have been since the forums first opened. This will not change.

    Yes, I know, and I understand the reasons for that; that prohibition has been in place in other gaming fora where I have had to (and did) enforce it ... But I still think it's a draconian overreaction.
  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    askray wrote: »
    Political discussions are banned along with religious discussions and have been since the forums first opened. This will not change.

    Yes, I know, and I understand the reasons for that; that prohibition has been in place in other gaming fora where I have had to (and did) enforce it ... But I still think it's a draconian overreaction.

    What value would these topics add to the overall enjoyment of Star Trek Online? We are already see what those topics do to ESD zone chat.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    cidjack wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    askray wrote: »
    Political discussions are banned along with religious discussions and have been since the forums first opened. This will not change.

    Yes, I know, and I understand the reasons for that; that prohibition has been in place in other gaming fora where I have had to (and did) enforce it ... But I still think it's a draconian overreaction.

    What value would these topics add to the overall enjoyment of Star Trek Online? We are already see what those topics do to ESD zone chat.

    I just think it's a shame that people who are capable of engaging in polite academic discourse are penalized for the inability/refusal of others to do so, and that topics which have been a part of Trek ever since TOS are verboten here. But like I said, I do understand the reasons for it.
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    protogoth wrote: »
    cidjack wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    askray wrote: »
    Political discussions are banned along with religious discussions and have been since the forums first opened. This will not change.

    Yes, I know, and I understand the reasons for that; that prohibition has been in place in other gaming fora where I have had to (and did) enforce it ... But I still think it's a draconian overreaction.

    What value would these topics add to the overall enjoyment of Star Trek Online? We are already see what those topics do to ESD zone chat.

    I just think it's a shame that people who are capable of engaging in polite academic discourse are penalized for the inability/refusal of others to do so, and that topics which have been a part of Trek ever since TOS are verboten here. But like I said, I do understand the reasons for it.

    eh...IDK. I've always been taught to stay away from The Big 3 (economy, politics, religion) when speaking to people I don't know or just met. Since I don't know many people on the internet in real life, I stick to that rule here. Besides, this is a Star Trek game, so I would rather talk about Star Trek and games here. I have too much real life in real life, why would I want to bring it here?

    EDIT: On Topic----> iconians pretty much said it for me.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    cidjack wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    askray wrote: »
    Political discussions are banned along with religious discussions and have been since the forums first opened. This will not change.

    Yes, I know, and I understand the reasons for that; that prohibition has been in place in other gaming fora where I have had to (and did) enforce it ... But I still think it's a draconian overreaction.

    What value would these topics add to the overall enjoyment of Star Trek Online? We are already see what those topics do to ESD zone chat.

    I just think it's a shame that people who are capable of engaging in polite academic discourse are penalized for the inability/refusal of others to do so, and that topics which have been a part of Trek ever since TOS are verboten here. But like I said, I do understand the reasons for it.

    eh...IDK. I've always been taught to stay away from The Big 3 (economy, politics, religion) when speaking to people I don't know or just met. Since I don't know many people on the internet in real life, I stick to that rule here. Besides, this is a Star Trek game, so I would rather talk about Star Trek and games here. I have too much real life in real life, why would I want to bring it here?

    Like I said, I understand the reasons. I have been a participant in a forum where such topics were permitted, and even with more Mods and a smaller forum population than we have in the STO fora, so that flames were generally put out rather quickly, the discussions were sadly still mostly full of rhetoric, with very little logic involved. But trying to portray such topics as somehow "un-Trek" is simply incorrect.
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