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"They knew the Risks"

purvee1purvee1 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
edited October 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Goes one of the final lines in the new Featured episode...

So which crazy types who really need to stop trying to Kirk it took a Constitution class up against the Iconian fleet during the assault on the Deathstar Herald Sphere?

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See Cryptic, that's what happens when you change W>S to A>S for us cruiser captains...
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    All I can figure is there must be a bunch of people fighting the Iconian War in T6 or T5-U Connies. They just aren't the players and we never see them. Just like we don't see most of this Iconian War.
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  • alexmakepeacealexmakepeace Member Posts: 10,633 Arc User
    They must be JJ Connies , because they're bigger than my Sovereign.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    alexmakepeace wrote: »
    They must be JJ Connies , because they're bigger than my Sovereign.

    Maybe it was fleeing the Herald sphere. If it was, then why is it flying backwards? Maybe it was trying to evacuate the crew from House Pegh?

    A T6 JJverse Connie that flies backwards during an Iconian War that doesn't feel like a war while rescuing homosexual klingons.

    You could have player outrage distilled and pure enough to weaponize it.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    iconians wrote: »
    alexmakepeace wrote: »
    They must be JJ Connies , because they're bigger than my Sovereign.

    Maybe it was fleeing the Herald sphere. If it was, then why is it flying backwards? Maybe it was trying to evacuate the crew from House Pegh?

    A T6 JJverse Connie that flies backwards during an Iconian War that doesn't feel like a war while rescuing homosexual klingons.

    You could have player outrage distilled and pure enough to weaponize it.

    Hmm, there may be some subtle humour here...​​
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    I was just laughing with the Defiant-class getting 1-shotted o:)
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  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    There were also a few of Perpetual's Excalibur among the fleet.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,899 Arc User
    Well they're Connies...what do you expect? They're good for nothing but wreckage! :P
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    I suppose the same people who thought it was a good idea to send a connie against the Borg at Wolf359?
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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    Hey, my K'tinga was in there kicking backsides and taking names. A true Connie would have done just as well, except Cryptic only gives them to worthless NPCs.
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    anazonda wrote: »
    I suppose the same people who thought it was a good idea to send a connie against the Borg at Wolf359?

    Readily interpretable as Starfleet scrambling anything in the vicinity that had a functioning warp drive. It was probably either in mothballs or being used as a training ship by the Academy (which raises some disturbing questions about the Class of 2367...).

    No excuse here, unless that was really a Vesper-class or Excalibur-class.
  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    It's because Kirk wasn't the CPT. If he was alive he would have hooked up with M'Tara and gave her a TRIBBLE.
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  • lsegnlsegn Member Posts: 594 Arc User
    lowy1 wrote: »
    It's because Kirk wasn't the CPT. If he was alive he would have hooked up with M'Tara and gave her a TRIBBLE.

    LOL
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.

    cannon fodder lol. . .

    but did you not see the Sao Paulo class ships get insta killed lol :smiley:
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  • lsegnlsegn Member Posts: 594 Arc User
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.

    cannon fodder lol. . .

    but did you not see the Sao Paulo class ships get insta killed lol :smiley:

    That wasn't the Sao Paulo ;)
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.

    cannon fodder lol. . .

    but did you not see the Sao Paulo class ships get insta killed lol :smiley:

    Better to lose 50 people per ship than 200. A Miranda would have been vaporized by a glancing blow.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    StarSword-C wrote: »
    anazonda wrote: »
    I suppose the same people who thought it was a good idea to send a connie against the Borg at Wolf359?

    Readily interpretable as Starfleet scrambling anything in the vicinity that had a functioning warp drive. It was probably either in mothballs or being used as a training ship by the Academy (which raises some disturbing questions about the Class of 2367...).

    No excuse here, unless that was really a Vesper-class or Excalibur-class.
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.

    In game lore wise, we have veritible fleets of T1 Connies, Mirandas, T'Liss, T'Varo, BoPs, and T2? D7s that can be thrown at the Iconians. Though what Admiral / General thinks that a T1 can contribute to a T6 mixup is beyond me - been watching DPS channels much? :tongue: ​​
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.

    cannon fodder lol. . .

    but did you not see the Sao Paulo class ships get insta killed lol :smiley:

    Well, it' a mighty cannon -I believe it is the cannon that was used to blow up the Preserver Archive.


    I think the real wonder is why they didn't ram that flagship a few more times. Whether your ship gets blown to pieces or you ram into the enemy ship, your ship is gone. But at least the latter option causes some serious damage to the enemy, too.

    Or do they worry about their insurance premiums? ​​
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  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    Something I always kinda wondered about ST is how, if ramming always works, they haven't designed extra-fast unmanned ships designed just to ram stuff. Heck, you could probably even send a remote/autopiloted shuttle slamming into something else at maximum impulse.

    And that doesn't even consider warp-speed rams. Do objects traveling at warp interact with normal-space stuff in ST? I know there have been a couple novels where that is possible, but I'm none too sure about canon.
  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    scurry5 wrote: »
    Something I always kinda wondered about ST is how, if ramming always works, they haven't designed extra-fast unmanned ships designed just to ram stuff. Heck, you could probably even send a remote/autopiloted shuttle slamming into something else at maximum impulse.

    And that doesn't even consider warp-speed rams. Do objects traveling at warp interact with normal-space stuff in ST? I know there have been a couple novels where that is possible, but I'm none too sure about canon.
    Cost, any navy today wants to make ramming ships? And Warp collision isnt possible. The ship is effectivly standing still in the warp bubble.

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  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    Didnt Miranda have a crew of ~30 in 2370s?
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  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    k20vtec wrote: »
    Didnt Miranda have a crew of ~30 in 2370s?

    Only if your name is Khan.
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  • rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Forget the Connie, I'd love to know who thought it would be a good idea to send T'liss and Miranda-class frigates against the Iconians. Each one is basically a waste of 150-200 lives, which could be assigned to three or four Defiant-class ships instead.

    A captain flying a miranda would kill a dozen of ships before his ship went critical, and even then he would redirect his miranda into ramming mode and even use the warp core breach of the exploding ships to kill a dozen more of ships.
  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    tolmarius wrote: »
    k20vtec wrote: »
    Didnt Miranda have a crew of ~30 in 2370s?

    Only if your name is Khan.
    Kahn is in 2270s. I am talking about 2370s Mirandas...

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    Thats what I too was thinking Until one particular wolf359 battle recreation that ive been watching on youtube made me realize that there was only one tmp connie that managed to survive that Wolf359 battle. Which made cryptic think that if that was possible that they would test that by doing the same with this well mmm as im seeing in this thread theyre attempts at seeing if that was possible see if a tmp connie would survive the iconian sphere battle like the wolf359 battle would prove disasterous.

    Oh and just so you know unlike the Iconian Sphere battle the only tmp connie that managed to survive the Wolf359 battle was the USS Endevour (Captian Amasov last known to be in command)
  • majorcharvenakmajorcharvenak Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited October 2023
    O.o Is this a necro thread? Comment before last was 8 years ago.
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    back to the necroworld with ye zombieness. (white lantern ring blast) /thread
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