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erillianerillian Member Posts: 7 Arc User
Cryptic should take a second and help us Romulans out a little bit, because one cant help but notice the lacking amount of Romulan stuff in comparison to other factions. I have some ideas.

1-Romulan Bridges we can definitely use some more of these, preferably attached to a ship interior unlike the Scimitars.
2-Uniform Update I have the opinion that the RR could use a new uniform.
3- A Fleet Starbase decoration project to change its internal aesthetics to Romulan?
4- A refresher on mission dialogue so that I don't feel like a Klingon/Starfleet officer flying around in his/her shiny new warbird.
5- Some new costumes, like our own version of Mako or Honor Guard Gear, but more Romulan, perhaps some Romulan Nemesis Uniforms. Maybe some Tal' Shiar Officer uniforms(love Sela's Cape).
6- -40 total power of a Singularity Warp Core should be fixed, the singularity abilities it comes with are pretty much useless especially in the end game definitely not worth the power.
7-New t2-4 Science Warbirds
8-Tovan Khev. With the limited number of bridge officers available, it would be nice to have the choice of just letting him stay on the ship if not on the bridge crew until his part in the story, which ends on Nimbus, concludes, because lets face it, he is inferior. But if not definitely let us get rid of him after Nimbus.
9-Fleet Scimitar.

If anyone from Cryptic reads this please consider doing at least some of it.


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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    1-asked for since LoR launched... even as recently as this week in the general discussion forum
    2-disagree the RR has several nice options + a veteran option
    3-asked for since LoR launched - would be awesome
    4-asked for since LoR launched - would be awesome
    5-asked for since LoR launched - would be awesome
    6-disagree strongly
    7-asked for since LoR launched - would be awesome
    8-asked for since LoR launched... will "never happen" and the devs get a bug up their TRIBBLE every time its mentioned. An extra BOFF slot for roms sould be nice tho
    9-probably on the way with the other t6 "flagships"
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  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    Definately agree with no.1, i paid real money out for my nice new Scimitar, flew it into space, thought I'd pop inside and have a wander around my lovely new flagship.. but there's just a few steps and some Thalaron thing. Where's my readyroom with my Romulan trophies? (that we get from the Romulan storyline).

    (Desipite the fact that we've all run around a Scimitar before, there is a mission where you have to save one from uber-Vauduaar. Its not like it hasn't been modelled. And on a premium ship too! tsh)

    (also, how come Fed/Klingon has like dozens of bridges and ship layouts, and Romulans have one. um two. You mean the RR puts all that thought and design into their warbirds, then just puts a generic bridge in each one?)

    I'd pay for a Rom bridge pack, desperately. For Scimmy, mostly, but for all the Rom ships too.
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  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    aliguana wrote: »

    (also, how come Fed/Klingon has like dozens of bridges and ship layouts, and Romulans have one. um two. You mean the RR puts all that thought and design into their warbirds, then just puts a generic bridge in each one?)

    I'd pay for a Rom bridge pack, desperately. For Scimmy, mostly, but for all the Rom ships too.

    Its because, in case you haven't noticed or heard this yet, the Romulans and Klingons are second class citizens in STO. The Feds have twice the combined ships, 4 times the bridge packs, 6 times the uniforms, The Feds are what most people know about Star Trek. So they get all the cool stuff. We have to suck hind t i t when it comes to new toys.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    spielman1 wrote: »
    it would be fixed if the devs actually researched the ships there are 4 ships I can name they are not even using 2 of theme where used in picards time and 1 in Kirk time and the other in Destiny timeline.

    They can't use stuff from FASA, Destiny, or any other source which is not hard canon except their own fertile imaginations. It's a supposedly a legal thing (although they have used material from several non-canon sources, and although since all of these works are derivative, CBS can legally claim any or all of them, and authorize their use in STO ...). The thing is, though, there's enough material in FASA or Destiny that is inconsistent with hard canon (it may not have been inconsistent when the FASA RPG was being published, and it wasn't when the Destiny novels were being published, but it is now) and with STO, that opening that could be one huge headache of continuity issues, and not everybody is willing to dive into the sea of hard and soft canon to force them to make sense (and when we do, there are often enough people who hate us for it, because it isn't what they believe they would have done, even though they haven't even tried to walk a mile in my thigh boots).
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited July 2015
    Honestly if you look at some of the FASA Designs I am pretty sure the best ones were referenced for some of the more recent Romulan vessels. The stations... well I see a POWERFUL resemblance to one from FASA. Similarly I think the Gorn ones were influenced a bit by FASA.

    That said, I'd give good money for a Whitewind, Nova, or Winged Defender
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited July 2015
    despite the paramount/cbs logos slapped on the book they are not canon. The same with novels, not canon. This is why they aren't used, among other possible reasons for them not being used. Remember the corporate world is a nightmare of red tape and restrictions no one wants to gamble on.

    edit:
    movies = canon
    tv series = canon
    nothing else is, no matter how licensed, by who or anything else
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    despite the paramount/cbs logos slapped on the book they are not canon. The same with novels, not canon. This is why they aren't used, among other possible reasons for them not being used. Remember the corporate world is a nightmare of red tape and restrictions no one wants to gamble on.

    edit:
    movies = canon
    tv series = canon
    nothing else is, no matter how licensed, by who or anything else

    Well, to be fair, there are a handful of designs that were shown in DS9 that I can recall, that are not in STO (which "canon" wise, to my knowledge, are just T'liss, T'varo, Mogai, D'Deridex, Scimitar, Scorpion, and "Romulan Shuttle" a.k.a. "Kestrel Runabout").
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    only thing I ever saw in TNG or DS9 was the D'derp(barring a one shot 'scout ship' Tiaru's dad defected in). Your list seems to only be missing the D-7, or by its Romulan designation, V-11 Stormbird.

    Don't get me wrong I have seen LOTS of really awesome non-canon ships Id love to see in STO, Armada's shrike and griffin being near the top of that list.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    only thing I ever saw in TNG or DS9 was the D'derp(barring a one shot 'scout ship' Tiaru's dad defected in). Your list seems to only be missing the D-7, or by its Romulan designation, V-11 Stormbird.

    Don't get me wrong I have seen LOTS of really awesome non-canon ships Id love to see in STO, Armada's shrike and griffin being near the top of that list.

    The V-11 is not in-game.

    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I misunderstood you then I thought you were listing all canon vessels not just canon in game
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I misunderstood you then I thought you were listing all canon vessels not just canon in game
    It is well.
    Also, I think Vanilla got rid of my old sig. :s
    edited: found it.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    That's just it tho "pretty official" is as close as anything gets, no matter how annoying or obnoxious that is for us the fans. Also pretty much any faction t6 ships will be zen ships they've already set that precedent, and honestly I'd like for a few more options in the t1-5 range for characters levelling
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    only thing I ever saw in TNG or DS9 was the D'derp(barring a one shot 'scout ship' Tiaru's dad defected in). Your list seems to only be missing the D-7, or by its Romulan designation, V-11 Stormbird.

    Don't get me wrong I have seen LOTS of really awesome non-canon ships Id love to see in STO, Armada's shrike and griffin being near the top of that list.

    The Romulan scout ship was also in "The Enemy," although I don't recall whether or not we got to see it before it was destroyed in order to prevent Starfleet from capturing it.

    We did, however, see a Romulan "science ship" in "The Next Phase," which was the same thing as the scout ship, with some minor alterations.
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    erillian wrote: »
    Cryptic should take a second and help us Romulans out a little bit, because one cant help but notice the lacking amount of Romulan stuff in comparison to other factions. I have some ideas.

    1-Romulan Bridges we can definitely use some more of these, preferably attached to a ship interior unlike the Scimitars.
    2-Uniform Update I have the opinion that the RR could use a new uniform.
    3- A Fleet Starbase decoration project to change its internal aesthetics to Romulan?
    4- A refresher on mission dialogue so that I don't feel like a Klingon/Starfleet officer flying around in his/her shiny new warbird.
    5- Some new costumes, like our own version of Mako or Honor Guard Gear, but more Romulan, perhaps some Romulan Nemesis Uniforms. Maybe some Tal' Shiar Officer uniforms(love Sela's Cape).
    6- -40 total power of a Singularity Warp Core should be fixed, the singularity abilities it comes with are pretty much useless especially in the end game definitely not worth the power.
    7-New t2-4 Science Warbirds
    8-Tovan Khev. With the limited number of bridge officers available, it would be nice to have the choice of just letting him stay on the ship if not on the bridge crew until his part in the story, which ends on Nimbus, concludes, because lets face it, he is inferior. But if not definitely let us get rid of him after Nimbus.
    9-Fleet Scimitar.

    If anyone from Cryptic reads this please consider doing at least some of it.


    1. it would be nice if they would fix the trophy issue, but are bridges even used much?
    2. i know my romulan had her bortasqu uniform taken away. did they ever replace it with something new? if not, thats a great place to start.
    3. i wouldnt mind that a bit! it would be great if those that already unlocked all their vanity projects could have them retroactively changed to the romulan choices.
    4. when talking to romulan/reman npcs, no doubt. when talking to fed/kdf... not so sure.
    5. rom maco/hg only if the vanilla maco/hg are taken away (no double-dipping). id like to see the tal shiar uniform debugged and any missing pieces added.
    6. hell no! that was supposedly the backside of the huge crit bonus and sing gimmicks roms enjoy. its convenient that kdf were robbed of plasmonic leech at the same time hey
    7. sci ships for all. i can support that.
    8. there are technical considerations, so a bonus boff slot should suffice, assuming the would stop putting him on the bridge and whatnot when he isnt even assigned a function.
    9. already op. no.
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    4. when talking to romulan/reman npcs, no doubt. when talking to fed/kdf... not so sure.

    I don't understand this.

    So when a Romulan/Reman character addresses you "Hey, you, Feddie!"/"Hello, Honourable Warrior!" when you're a Fed-Rom/KDF-Rom respectively, it bothers you. But when a Federation/KDF NPC does the same, it doesn't? onion-13.gif​​
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    guljarol wrote: »
    4. when talking to romulan/reman npcs, no doubt. when talking to fed/kdf... not so sure.

    I don't understand this.

    So when a Romulan/Reman character addresses you "Hey, you, Feddie!"/"Hello, Honourable Warrior!" when you're a Fed-Rom/KDF-Rom respectively, it bothers you. But when a Federation/KDF NPC does the same, it doesn't? onion-13.gif
    my thinking: when a rom/rem talks to you it would make sense for them to approach you differently as you are a fellow romulan. feds/kdf might simply address you as a fed/kdf officer... on second thought they might actually talk down to you, or otherwise be condescending...
    the 'honourable warrior' thing isnt an issue limited to romulans. they also say that sort of thing to orion, gorn, etc which feels out of place. i chalk it up to 'while in rome...' and reply with the obligatory 'qapla!', but i can appreciate that to a romulan it may go from merely 'out of place' to 'kinda weird'.

    so after consideration, let me amend that:
    4. yes, it would be great if npcs had some awareness of your toons faction and alignment. that includes my kdf worrying about the prime directive and whatnot in the newer fedish missions. and to expand on that, making me flee from the heralds in last FE and hide in cowardice from heralds in this FE was downright disgraceful.

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  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    actually, if you play as a Reman, when you go into Oblisk's base Tovan says things like "they probably think you're one of them" and some other dialogs. So it is there. But yeah, generally they treat you as a Fed/Klingon, not as a fellow Romulan. which sucks.

    (slightly off topic, but why would a Romulan join the KDF anyway? Most of their missions are "hunt the Romulans" and "find the Remans" etc)
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    aliguana wrote: »
    actually, if you play as a Reman, when you go into Oblisk's base Tovan says things like "they probably think you're one of them" and some other dialogs. So it is there. But yeah, generally they treat you as a Fed/Klingon, not as a fellow Romulan. which sucks.

    (slightly off topic, but why would a Romulan join the KDF anyway? Most of their missions are "hunt the Romulans" and "find the Remans" etc)

    The tutorial mission for what later becomes "Empire Defense against Romulan Encroachment" (usually abbreviated as "Empire Defense: Romulans") is "Removing the Romulan Star Empire." That seems entirely consistent with RRF values.
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    my thinking: when a rom/rem talks to you it would make sense for them to approach you differently as you are a fellow romulan. feds/kdf might simply address you as a fed/kdf officer... on second thought they might actually talk down to you, or otherwise be condescending...
    the 'honourable warrior' thing isnt an issue limited to romulans. they also say that sort of thing to orion, gorn, etc which feels out of place. i chalk it up to 'while in rome...' and reply with the obligatory 'qapla!', but i can appreciate that to a romulan it may go from merely 'out of place' to 'kinda weird'.

    Ok, while I disagree, I understand your approach better now.
    so after consideration, let me amend that:
    4. yes, it would be great if npcs had some awareness of your toons faction and alignment. that includes my kdf worrying about the prime directive and whatnot in the newer fedish missions. and to expand on that, making me flee from the heralds in last FE and hide in cowardice from heralds in this FE was downright disgraceful.

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    Oh, gee, don't get me started... LOL I'm running "A Step Between the Stars" as a Rom these days to get the Solanae set, and I just click through my argument with Jarok, where I argue that Romulans should not claim rights to the new sphere. Why in heavens would I do that? And then Shon says this is not a Romulan-Klingon matter. WTF? Who mentioned the Klingons?
    Yeah, I know it's because my Rom is KDF-allied, but this is just a load of cr*p.

    I can fully agree that not being artificially written into another faction would be nice.
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  • darknetwerkdarknetwerk Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    I just went through "Badlands" this morning as a first run for this character. I'm pretty new and thought the stuff on New Romulus was part of the main Romulan storyline so I had leveled to 50 there and parked it because I was getting bored. Started an Orian Delta recruit and only realized my mistake when I happen to stop by NR and see the same stuff.

    Anyways... I did a doubletake when Riker actually called me a Romulan in his initial text (I may have read this thread or something like it beforehand, so I may have been paying more attention than usual). Something about taken by the Cardies and now saved by a Romulan.

    I don't know if it's new-ish or not as I wasn't paying attention (or don't recall) when I ran it through on my Orion or Fed character.
  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    Yeah, sometimes they recognise you for what you are. In the same episode I mentioned above Dr. Cooper did recognise me as a Romulan in the dialogue.
    Later in the same ep they treated me as a KDF. So it's messed up. And only proves it IS possible to fix it, just someone is too lazy to put some effort into it to make it consistent.​​
  • vorwodavorwoda Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    [SNIP]:

    movies = canon
    tv series = canon
    nothing else is, no matter how licensed, by who or anything else

    Which is no excuse to not give use a Romulan D-7 a la "The Enterprise Incident", Or sell us one. Especially at T-5/T-5U. In the Zen Store. Where they could PROFIT from it. (*Hint, hint*)
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    vorwoda wrote: »
    Which is no excuse to not give use a Romulan D-7 a la "The Enterprise Incident", Or sell us one. Especially at T-5/T-5U. In the Zen Store. Where they could PROFIT from it. (*Hint, hint*)
    ally with the klinks and get the retrofit? lol prolly the only way it will happen :/
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    I am in favor of more Romulan content.
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