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protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
In case anyone hasn't yet seen this, have a look.

Discussion in General Discussion forum is here.

My Poll is here

So, like the title says, Tal'Diann (KDF-allied main fleet of our organiation) and/or Tal-Diann (Fed-allied main fleet of our organization) are putting ourselves on the courtship market for other Pro-Republic ROMULAN fleets for purposes of Armada formation when the system goes live. Depending on how the poll goes, and if it encourages the Devs to say "yes," our two main fleets may or may not be able to do this together, but either way, we'll be looking for suitable suitors outside our organization to woo us into accepting them as Client Fleets (not Vassals as the system seems to be planning to call them, because Romulans are tribal, not feudal). The only "fealty" we would require of Client Fleets is to the Republic. Anyone care to propose? If so, what are your prospects?

(Excuse the metafora d'amore if you don't find it amusing.)
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    While I agree organizing now is the right path, and that you'll get more traction here, isn't this one for the fleet section of the forum?
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    While I agree organizing now is the right path, and that you'll get more traction here, isn't this one for the fleet section of the forum?

    Hm, maybe, but how many Romulan players ever look there? A handful of fleet leaders/recruiters, and some of those fleets are not Romulan in culture or environment, but are rather simply KDF and Fed fleets looking for more members and willing to take RRF characters to continue building KDF and Fed influence. I'm looking at a bigger picture and aiming high for the goal I've been aiming for almost since LoR was released: full faction status for our people. I see sticking together in the armada system as a means of facilitating the realization of that goal.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    protogoth wrote: »
    While I agree organizing now is the right path, and that you'll get more traction here, isn't this one for the fleet section of the forum?

    Hm, maybe, but how many Romulan players ever look there? A handful of fleet leaders/recruiters, and some of those fleets are not Romulan in culture or environment, but are rather simply KDF and Fed fleets looking for more members and willing to take RRF characters to continue building KDF and Fed influence. I'm looking at a bigger picture and aiming high for the goal I've been aiming for almost since LoR was released: full faction status for our people. I see sticking together in the armada system as a means of facilitating the realization of that goal.

    yeah thats why I said I agreed with the basic reasons for posting here but fleet forums exist for a reason.

    on a different note, my rom-fed fleet is 1/2 dead and small but it might sign on. Its not pro anything besides enjoying sto.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
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  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    all my chars are Romulan/Reman, and I've been looking everywhere for a Romulan (based) fleet. A squad of Warbirds flying into battle.. yus!

    where do I sign up? (for alpha, beta, gamma, zeta, any) lol :)
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    While I agree organizing now is the right path, and that you'll get more traction here, isn't this one for the fleet section of the forum?

    Hm, maybe, but how many Romulan players ever look there? A handful of fleet leaders/recruiters, and some of those fleets are not Romulan in culture or environment, but are rather simply KDF and Fed fleets looking for more members and willing to take RRF characters to continue building KDF and Fed influence. I'm looking at a bigger picture and aiming high for the goal I've been aiming for almost since LoR was released: full faction status for our people. I see sticking together in the armada system as a means of facilitating the realization of that goal.

    ^This.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    aliguana wrote: »
    all my chars are Romulan/Reman, and I've been looking everywhere for a Romulan (based) fleet. A squad of Warbirds flying into battle.. yus!

    where do I sign up? (for alpha, beta, gamma, zeta, any) lol :)

    So you don't have a fleet, and are looking for one? Check out our recruiting thread for that.

    This thread is seeking other RRF fleets for purposes of joining our Armada. Kodachi, send me a PM with your fleets' informationz.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I will, if I ever see the fleet leader to talk to him about the armada -.- '
    Im beginning to think I need a new fleet for those 2 alts, Singularity Core is just dead
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    I will, if I ever see the fleet leader to talk to him about the armada -.- '
    Im beginning to think I need a new fleet for those 2 alts, Singularity Core is just dead

    Well, Tal Diann fleets have an oath of loyalty. Think you can stomach that?

    Meanwhile, is there anyone here in an RRF fleet interested in joining our Armada(s)?
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    -Singularity Core- is the fleet name, we're not an RP fleet and would probably be best in the bottom tier of the armada system. Talked to one of the officers and he's interested in getting us into the armada @-Scimitar- if you want to message him in game.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    -Singularity Core- is the fleet name, we're not an RP fleet and would probably be best in the bottom tier of the armada system. Talked to one of the officers and he's interested in getting us into the armada @-Scimitar- if you want to message him in game.

    Friend request sent.


  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    Have any room for 1 more fleet?
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    Have any room for 1 more fleet?

    For the Tal'Shiar? o.O

    We are the Tal'Diann; we have opposed the Tal'Shiar since 2373, and we have been in open war with the Tal'Shiar since we were among the first military personnel to help get the Republic started.

    ((OOC, I apologize to you, but that's not a very likely pairing. And claims to be a "new and improved" Tal'Shiar, or a "non-Iconian" Tal'Shiar, are likely to be met with howls of derisive laughter, at best. The Tal'Shiar was founded to replace an older and corrupt civilian intelligence service, a mere 66 years ago, and had already become as corrupt as its predecessor in less than 30 years. We therefore also have a general distrust of "Republic Intelligence" as well, viewing that body as at least redundant (since the Tal'Diann already does Military Intelligence, AND there's also a "Militia Intelligence" which is redundant enough, but more tolerable to us than a civilian intelligence service) and possibly as likely to sink into the same sewage where the Tal'Shiar wound up (since the Tal'Shiar was not only civilian Intelligence, but also a Stasi-like body). Your fleet has been around for a while, so asking you to change the name and culture of your fleet would not be fair, and demanding that you do so would be presumptuous. But we are seeking RRF fleets, not RSE fleets, and certainly not Tal'Shiar fleets.

    We actually have a few fleets angling to join with us in-game. While the number is nowhere near the max, Beta slots look to be likely to fill rather soon, depending on relative fleet levels (some may go into Gamma slots instead, if we accept them).))
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    methinks RP fleets will be the death of the armada system
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    methinks RP fleets will be the death of the armada system

    Our fleets are not RP fleets. We certainly do welcome and encourage RP, but we recognize that not everyone has any interest in taking part, and that it takes various kinds of players to help a fleet succeed. With that in mind, we have among us those who love PvP, those who despise PvP, those like me who PvP occasionally, those who love RP, those who hate RP, and those who simply game. But we draw the line at members (and, for the purposes of the Armada, fleets) who RP exclusively as RSE or Tal'Shiar (note the word "exclusively;" we do have a program in place for a sort of "Rogues' Gallery" in order to facilitate RP with "enemies"), and fleets which have blatantly RSE or Tal'Shiar names and fleet cultures. I don't feel that such a policy is unreasonable; there are sufficient numbers of fleets which oppose the RSE and the Tal'Shiar that we should not have to rely upon those which embrace the RSE and/or the Tal'Shiar in order to fill out our Armadas.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    meh, its a meta game mechanism for helpin out smaller fleets. I just leave it at that.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    Well, keep me in mind, after all I do use the name Romulan Tal Shiar, vs another fleet know simply as the Tal Shiar. And, while I consider this fleet a seperatist intelligence agency made up from old Imperial Tal Shiar agents, they have since dedicated their purpose to remain for their people the Romulans, as the people's Tal Shiar agency!
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    Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!

  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    Well, keep me in mind, after all I do use the name Romulan Tal Shiar, vs another fleet know simply as the Tal Shiar. And, while I consider this fleet a seperatist intelligence agency made up from old Imperial Tal Shiar agents, they have since dedicated their purpose to remain for their people the Romulans, as the people's Tal Shiar agency!

    Why not simply call your fleet "Republic Intelligence," or "Romulan Republic Intelligence," then? The Tal'Shiar is only 66 years old, and in that 66 years, it has established a very bad reputation, such that the very name is now looked upon with disdain by loyal citizens of the Republic. With the release of Delta Rising, Cryptic established that there is a civilian organization known as "Republic Intelligence."

    Alternatively, LoR established that there is a "Republic Militia" and that a division thereof is known as "Militia Intelligence," but that is of course the Military Intelligence division of the Republic Militia, and not civilian intelligence. It's also under the direction of the Republic Militia, which is one of the branches of the Romulan Republic Forces. The branches of the RRF, as we have developed the idea, are: the New Romulan Star Navy, the Republic Militia, the New Romulus Ground Army (there is some debate among us over whether this should be called "New Romulus Ground Army" or "Republic Ground Army"), and the Tal'Diann. We are also aware of an organization known as "New Romulus Defense Force," although exactly where they fit into the RRF is unclear.

    So you could be:
    Republic Intelligence
    Romulan Republic Intelligence
    Milita Intelligence
    Republic Militia Intelligence

    The first two are the same thing; they are civilian. The second two are the same different thing; they are military, albeit perhaps somewhat more relaxed than the New Romulan Star Navy, New Romulus Ground Army, or the Tal'Diann.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    Well, keep me in mind, after all I do use the name Romulan Tal Shiar, vs another fleet know simply as the Tal Shiar. And, while I consider this fleet a seperatist intelligence agency made up from old Imperial Tal Shiar agents, they have since dedicated their purpose to remain for their people the Romulans, as the people's Tal Shiar agency!

    Why not simply call your fleet "Republic Intelligence," or "Romulan Republic Intelligence," then? The Tal'Shiar is only 66 years old, and in that 66 years, it has established a very bad reputation, such that the very name is now looked upon with disdain by loyal citizens of the Republic. With the release of Delta Rising, Cryptic established that there is a civilian organization known as "Republic Intelligence."

    Alternatively, LoR established that there is a "Republic Militia" and that a division thereof is known as "Militia Intelligence," but that is of course the Military Intelligence division of the Republic Militia, and not civilian intelligence. It's also under the direction of the Republic Militia, which is one of the branches of the Romulan Republic Forces. The branches of the RRF, as we have developed the idea, are: the New Romulan Star Navy, the Republic Militia, the New Romulus Ground Army (there is some debate among us over whether this should be called "New Romulus Ground Army" or "Republic Ground Army"), and the Tal'Diann. We are also aware of an organization known as "New Romulus Defense Force," although exactly where they fit into the RRF is unclear.

    So you could be:
    Republic Intelligence
    Romulan Republic Intelligence
    Milita Intelligence
    Republic Militia Intelligence

    The first two are the same thing; they are civilian. The second two are the same different thing; they are military, albeit perhaps somewhat more relaxed than the New Romulan Star Navy, New Romulus Ground Army, or the Tal'Diann.

    Well, to be honest I like the name, as it may be old but, still stands for intelligence!

    Also, some of those other names, are currently taken anyways!
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    Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!

  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    Well, to be honest I like the name, as it may be old but, still stands for intelligence!

    Also, some of those other names, are currently taken anyways!

    More like oppression, torture, murder, and lunacy.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Well, to be honest I like the name, as it may be old but, still stands for intelligence!

    Also, some of those other names, are currently taken anyways!

    More like oppression, torture, murder, and lunacy.

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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Well, to be honest I like the name, as it may be old but, still stands for intelligence!

    Also, some of those other names, are currently taken anyways!

    More like oppression, torture, murder, and lunacy.

    Well, either way I offered so, I will keep looking in the mean time! TY for responding quickly.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    Well, to be honest I like the name, as it may be old but, still stands for intelligence!

    Also, some of those other names, are currently taken anyways!

    'tal shiar' and 'intelligence' should never be used in the same sentence...at least, not in relation to this game and the utter mockery cryptic made of the name​​
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    Tal-Diann now has two Beta fleets in our Armada (Lasasam s'Tal-Diann and -Singularity Core-), with another on the way. Tal-Diann now has one Beta fleet in our Armada (Lasasam s'Tal'Diann), with another on the way. Tal'Diann therefore has room for another Beta and whatever Gammas our Betas invite, and Tal-Diann will have room for Gammas which can be invited by our Betas.

    Any further interested parties please let me know here or in-game.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    We made beta? wow I kinda figured we were perfect gamma material but not beta, cool :)
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    We made beta? wow I kinda figured we were perfect gamma material but not beta, cool :)

    -Scimitar- expected that as well. I told him/her that Beta is fine for now, and we might re-evalutate in the future, if we need space for another Beta.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    oh i feel so dirty... I kicked some of the tal'diann's projects to 100% with my fleet marks :p lol
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    oh i feel so dirty... I kicked some of the tal'diann's projects to 100% with my fleet marks :p lol

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    lmfao!! win
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    did someone much up the armada system on the patch? I went to look at projects for the other fleets to see what I could toss where and I couldnt see anything
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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