To all the people attacking the OP, you are breaking the forum rules and do not make this game or forum community look good. Yes, I do think these kinds of threads are silly, but that is not justification for attacking the OP personally.
All you people saying he clearly doesn't like the game are dead wrong. If he didn't like the game he wouldn't be considering coming back. Clearly, he likes the game enough to want to play, but sees no improvement in the gameplay and is hoping to be convinced there IS some improvement that he's not seeing.
Also, telling people not to play, to go away, just makes for an emptier game, with fewer players. STO isn't so packed full of players that you can afford to tell people to leave. That attitude is childish, short-sighted and destructive.
My response to the OP is, don't play for the rewards. Play for your own entertainment. Find something you DO like in the game, and play for that.
I see where you are coming from, but the OP does not really seem interested in a dialog. It sounds more like (yet another) vitriolic post condemning something in STO.
It's one thing to say "Hey, I took a 2 month break and heard all about this stuff, but I am unsure. Anyone want to chime in with their opinion on these things?" vs "Yeah, I heard about these things. I have not experienced them. I don't have to either. 'Cuz they SUCK." That sort of kills the conversation before it gets going.
To all the people attacking the OP, you are breaking the forum rules and do not make this game or forum community look good. Yes, I do think these kinds of threads are silly, but that is not justification for attacking the OP personally.
it seems your just as guilty of myself for encouraging this flamefest on this thread, what else is new? if your not willing to point out what rules are broken, then how is your point any more as constructive as my own right now?
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Why must we hold your hand and coax you into returning ?
Geez its like you dont have a mind of your own..
Tbh, and no offense, but nobody gives a **** if you come back or not. :O (amazing isn't it ?)
And frankly why would you give a **** what we say annyway ? (We're obviously biased)
it seems your just as guilty of myself for encouraging this flamefest on this thread, what else is new? if your not willing to point out what rules are broken, then how is your point any more as constructive as my own right now?
It's pretty simple: the ones that talk about attacking other people. The rules are stickied at the top of the board, so you shouldn't need me or anyone else to "point out" what they are.
Dude, It's an MMO. The whole point of playing an MMO is play with OTHER people.. to create community. Everything else is just game mechanics and a graphics engine, and maybe some story writing/experiencing.
If you don't find community in STO then find another game. You can leave sto on... you might come back to it, you might not.
I'm not going to tell you you should or should not. Not my call. Yours.
I understand where you are coming from, but one reason I always come back, and stay for a good half a year at a stretch, is because of the friends I have who also play.
On the off chance you don't have a group to play with, send me an in game mail. @F9thRet.
I'm always happy to help out in a situation like this.
My mother always told me to walk away from a fight, The Marines taught me how.
In the c-store next week they will start a can i haz your stuff sale for 1000 zen you can unbind one item of someone who quit.
For those of you out there that just are fed up we understand so something everyone loves here at Geko entertainment if you put a haz your stuff item up for unbinding you can win a master of master keys that has a chance of dropping a master key out of the out of the locked lockbox. Everyone loves it too.
So, I've been away from STO a couple of months, playing single player games and whatnot. And I periodically open the launcher and update STO in case I want to play it.
But really? What's there to make me want to pick it up again?
1) New Ships! That I'll have to grind at minimum three months for. 2) Story Missions! That do not give me current tiered gear. 3) Delta Recruit! Play through old content + scavenger hunt. 4) Craft Upgraded Weapons! That will take lots of hassle and frustration while constantly getting undesirable results because Rando Calrissian designed the upgrade system. 5) New Special Task Force Misisons! That lemme guess: Nobody knows how to do. Nobody's geared to do. Or, someone is just downright trolling you because the mechanics are broken! 6) Sector Space is Contiguous. Yay. I can barely withhold my enthusiasm.
7) TL DR. Every time I load up Star Trek Online, I know that it will be a minimum of two months of monotonous gameplay to get anything that has been newly introduced. So, I don't really want to load Star Trek Online.
1) Spend some cash or make alts.
2) Well...they give you something.
3) Actually, that's a good thing...especially for those that play with that 1 Fed main :rolleyes:
4) You can make your own stuffs...something I thought would NEVER happen in STO and is one of their best decisions.
5) New Missions...that no one with precognitive/psychic powers...will know how to play.
6) It was a good idea...until those of us in the KDF, who long left and never missed ESD chat, were suddenly and unwillingly reminded of why ESD chat is so loathed.
7) Delete it.
NO to ARC RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
So, I've been away from STO a couple of months, playing single player games and whatnot. And I periodically open the launcher and update STO in case I want to play it.
But really? What's there to make me want to pick it up again?
New Ships! That I'll have to grind at minimum three months for.
Or just buy them.
And regardles of how you acquire them in the end - they come with new consoles abilities and grant access to new BOFF abilities, meaning you can experiment with new play styles.
Story Missions! That do not give me current tiered gear.
Doesn't really matter, because one plays story mission for the story!
But - the featured episode come with set rewards that unlock over several weeks, and thanks to the ugprade system, nothing needs to stay on a low tier.
Delta Recruit! Play through old content + scavenger hunt.
With neat bonuses that mean it' ideal if you want to start an alt and get a head start. Also, lots of the old content was revamped, you may actually be surprised by some of it.
Craft Upgraded Weapons! That will take lots of hassle and frustration while constantly getting undesirable results because Rando Calrissian designed the upgrade system.
There isn't any hassle - didn't get what you wanted? First decide if it it's actually needed (hint: not really), and if you really, really want something specific, just try again.
New Special Task Force Misisons! That lemme guess: Nobody knows how to do. Nobody's geared to do. Or, someone is just downright trolling you because the mechanics are broken!
In what MMO is that not a potential problem, that quickly resolves itself mostly as people play the mission and get experience in it?
Sector Space is Contiguous. Yay. I can barely withhold my enthusiasm.
It is pretty cool, isn't it? Finally Quantum Slipstream and fast warp engines are actually useful, and you don't need to go through 4 loading screens just because your transwarp is on cooldown!
TL DR. Every time I load up Star Trek Online, I know that it will be a minimum of two months of monotonous gameplay to get anything that has been newly introduced. So, I don't really want to load Star Trek Online.
Maybe I am off, but I think the mission release schedule is more 1 mission per month, which is notably up from before.
All in all, a pretty good time to dive back into STO.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
So, I've been away from STO a couple of months, playing single player games and whatnot. And I periodically open the launcher and update STO in case I want to play it.
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TL DR. Every time I load up Star Trek Online, I know that it will be a minimum of two months of monotonous gameplay to get anything that has been newly introduced. So, I don't really want to load Star Trek Online.
If you don't have a reason to play STO, then just move on to another game; it's that simple.
I took a month break away from STO because I wanted to replay Morrowind again with some mods that updated the graphics. I am still playing Morrowind, but I have started playing STO again yesterday mostly to check out the Risa Summer Event. I would have preferred an actual science vessel as a reward compared to a science oriented cruiser so I am not sure if I want to grind for the Ferangi Nandi. But I will split my available free time between Morrowind and STO.
When Fallout 4 is released... well I am pretty sure I will be taking a very long break from STO.
Oh yeah, if you really want a new ship you can always use real money to purchase Zen to buy the ship. That eliminates a lot of the grind. The exception would be the event ships, though I assume you can use Lobi Crystals to help speed up the process.
Just in case you are interested, as of yesterday the Dilithium to Zen exchange rate was 247:1.
Delta Recruit! Play through old content + scavenger hunt.
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"Day late and a dollar short" as the old saying goes. This is a moot point. Nevertheless, why should you go back to play STO? Absolutely no reason whatsoever. However, the fact this thread exists is interesting, if not anomalous. You seek reasons to justify to play STO yet have already judged the game as "unworthy" of your time. I think then, OP, the reason you created this thread is to either lure out the trolls. Or, if your question is genuine (which, unfortunately is questionable), then it means you still give half a care about the game.
New Ships! That I'll have to grind at minimum three months for.
To get the new ship (the Nandi-class warship) requires 25 days. Last I checked, the shortest month of the year had 28; a "three-month grind" would be 90 days, not 25. TRIBBLE, the event as a whole only lasts for 35 days - just over a calendar month!
To get the new ship (the Nandi-class warship) requires 25 days. Last I checked, the shortest month of the year had 28; a "three-month grind" would be 90 days, not 25. TRIBBLE, the event as a whole only lasts for 35 days - just over a calendar month!
Happy now, Plasma?
For the record, there is a difference between "lying" and being wrong. Plenty of people are very wrong, but simply don't know it. Lying is when you actually *know* you are wrong, but still say something wrong anyway. I can't speak for the OP either way, just pointing out the difference.
I've seen a few people mke similar comments in this thread, but that is not necessarily true. Some people have..."issues"...where they are drawn to things or situations that make them unhappy. I'm not saying the OP *is* one of those people, but if we were talking about someone like that, and if they did *not* enjoy this game, I would not recommend they play it simply because they felt an urge.
I would not recommend they play it simply because they felt an urge.
Really depends.
If they simply didn't "like" the game, I think the urge to play is reason enough. If they still don't like it, they'll be gone soon enough, possibly offering some criticism on their way out (constructive if you as a reader have the capacity to parse it).
If for them the game requires some sort of trigger warning...better to move along, and maybe skip MMOs altogether.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
I was going to say something, but I think I'd rather let you and sills keep going at it.
Oh, no, feel free to say what you like. I'm done here; I responded to the one thing I felt needed a response. Now I'm off to play the game, because I for one find it even more entertaining than the forums.
Or maybe I should go play CO for a while; Repulsor hasn't finished clearing the Desert Disaster yet. Choices, choices...
Or maybe I should go play CO for a while; Repulsor hasn't finished clearing the Desert Disaster yet. Choices, choices...
I was just playing a bit earlier. My group and I successfully stopped Gigaton from stealing something from the museum. But I have a feeling someone else will try again soon
So, I've been away from STO a couple of months, playing single player games and whatnot. And I periodically open the launcher and update STO in case I want to play it.
But really? What's there to make me want to pick it up again?
New Ships! That I'll have to grind at minimum three months for.
Story Missions! That do not give me current tiered gear.
Delta Recruit! Play through old content + scavenger hunt.
Craft Upgraded Weapons! That will take lots of hassle and frustration while constantly getting undesirable results because Rando Calrissian designed the upgrade system.
New Special Task Force Misisons! That lemme guess: Nobody knows how to do. Nobody's geared to do. Or, someone is just downright trolling you because the mechanics are broken!
Sector Space is Contiguous. Yay. I can barely withhold my enthusiasm.
TL DR. Every time I load up Star Trek Online, I know that it will be a minimum of two months of monotonous gameplay to get anything that has been newly introduced. So, I don't really want to load Star Trek Online.
I personally recommend the Dark Souls series...unless your a sissy and don't wanna play a skill based game
Giantdad will be your friend, he will teach you how to souls
No offense taken. However, one is infinitely greater than zero, and the OP had stated there were zero new ships to be gotten with less than three months of grinding, a patently false statement.
Now, one could be charitable and say "mistaken" rather than "lying", and ordinarily I would have been charitable. However, the tone of the original post was clearly confrontational, and Plasma's behavior of late has not exactly been conducive of charity; I therefore felt little obligation to be as pleasant as usual.
However, one is infinitely greater than zero, and the OP had stated there were zero new ships to be gotten with less than three months of grinding, a patently false statement.
It's really easy to overlook the benefits of being familiar with the release cycle of a game.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
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The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I see where you are coming from, but the OP does not really seem interested in a dialog. It sounds more like (yet another) vitriolic post condemning something in STO.
It's one thing to say "Hey, I took a 2 month break and heard all about this stuff, but I am unsure. Anyone want to chime in with their opinion on these things?" vs "Yeah, I heard about these things. I have not experienced them. I don't have to either. 'Cuz they SUCK." That sort of kills the conversation before it gets going.
yessssssssssss
it seems your just as guilty of myself for encouraging this flamefest on this thread, what else is new? if your not willing to point out what rules are broken, then how is your point any more as constructive as my own right now?
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Geez its like you dont have a mind of your own..
Tbh, and no offense, but nobody gives a **** if you come back or not. :O (amazing isn't it ?)
And frankly why would you give a **** what we say annyway ? (We're obviously biased)
Think for yourself homefry.
It's pretty simple: the ones that talk about attacking other people. The rules are stickied at the top of the board, so you shouldn't need me or anyone else to "point out" what they are.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
If you don't find community in STO then find another game. You can leave sto on... you might come back to it, you might not.
I'm not going to tell you you should or should not. Not my call. Yours.
Now come back and play already...you slimy, double crossing no good swindler !
Can I haz your stuff?
Join the Deltas today!
I understand where you are coming from, but one reason I always come back, and stay for a good half a year at a stretch, is because of the friends I have who also play.
On the off chance you don't have a group to play with, send me an in game mail. @F9thRet.
I'm always happy to help out in a situation like this.
Can I have your stuff?
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
In the c-store next week they will start a can i haz your stuff sale for 1000 zen you can unbind one item of someone who quit.
For those of you out there that just are fed up we understand so something everyone loves here at Geko entertainment if you put a haz your stuff item up for unbinding you can win a master of master keys that has a chance of dropping a master key out of the out of the locked lockbox. Everyone loves it too.
1) Spend some cash or make alts.
2) Well...they give you something.
3) Actually, that's a good thing...especially for those that play with that 1 Fed main :rolleyes:
4) You can make your own stuffs...something I thought would NEVER happen in STO and is one of their best decisions.
5) New Missions...that no one with precognitive/psychic powers...will know how to play.
6) It was a good idea...until those of us in the KDF, who long left and never missed ESD chat, were suddenly and unwillingly reminded of why ESD chat is so loathed.
7) Delete it.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
And regardles of how you acquire them in the end - they come with new consoles abilities and grant access to new BOFF abilities, meaning you can experiment with new play styles.
Doesn't really matter, because one plays story mission for the story!
But - the featured episode come with set rewards that unlock over several weeks, and thanks to the ugprade system, nothing needs to stay on a low tier.
With neat bonuses that mean it' ideal if you want to start an alt and get a head start. Also, lots of the old content was revamped, you may actually be surprised by some of it.
There isn't any hassle - didn't get what you wanted? First decide if it it's actually needed (hint: not really), and if you really, really want something specific, just try again.
In what MMO is that not a potential problem, that quickly resolves itself mostly as people play the mission and get experience in it?
It is pretty cool, isn't it? Finally Quantum Slipstream and fast warp engines are actually useful, and you don't need to go through 4 loading screens just because your transwarp is on cooldown!
Maybe I am off, but I think the mission release schedule is more 1 mission per month, which is notably up from before.
All in all, a pretty good time to dive back into STO.
If you don't have a reason to play STO, then just move on to another game; it's that simple.
I took a month break away from STO because I wanted to replay Morrowind again with some mods that updated the graphics. I am still playing Morrowind, but I have started playing STO again yesterday mostly to check out the Risa Summer Event. I would have preferred an actual science vessel as a reward compared to a science oriented cruiser so I am not sure if I want to grind for the Ferangi Nandi. But I will split my available free time between Morrowind and STO.
When Fallout 4 is released... well I am pretty sure I will be taking a very long break from STO.
Oh yeah, if you really want a new ship you can always use real money to purchase Zen to buy the ship. That eliminates a lot of the grind. The exception would be the event ships, though I assume you can use Lobi Crystals to help speed up the process.
Just in case you are interested, as of yesterday the Dilithium to Zen exchange rate was 247:1.
"Day late and a dollar short" as the old saying goes. This is a moot point. Nevertheless, why should you go back to play STO? Absolutely no reason whatsoever. However, the fact this thread exists is interesting, if not anomalous. You seek reasons to justify to play STO yet have already judged the game as "unworthy" of your time. I think then, OP, the reason you created this thread is to either lure out the trolls. Or, if your question is genuine (which, unfortunately is questionable), then it means you still give half a care about the game.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
To get the new ship (the Nandi-class warship) requires 25 days. Last I checked, the shortest month of the year had 28; a "three-month grind" would be 90 days, not 25. TRIBBLE, the event as a whole only lasts for 35 days - just over a calendar month!
Happy now, Plasma?
For the record, there is a difference between "lying" and being wrong. Plenty of people are very wrong, but simply don't know it. Lying is when you actually *know* you are wrong, but still say something wrong anyway. I can't speak for the OP either way, just pointing out the difference.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Because you cared enough to make a post.
I've seen a few people mke similar comments in this thread, but that is not necessarily true. Some people have..."issues"...where they are drawn to things or situations that make them unhappy. I'm not saying the OP *is* one of those people, but if we were talking about someone like that, and if they did *not* enjoy this game, I would not recommend they play it simply because they felt an urge.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
edit: nevermind... nagus is gonna kell meh...
If they simply didn't "like" the game, I think the urge to play is reason enough. If they still don't like it, they'll be gone soon enough, possibly offering some criticism on their way out (constructive if you as a reader have the capacity to parse it).
If for them the game requires some sort of trigger warning...better to move along, and maybe skip MMOs altogether.
Oh, no, feel free to say what you like. I'm done here; I responded to the one thing I felt needed a response. Now I'm off to play the game, because I for one find it even more entertaining than the forums.
Or maybe I should go play CO for a while; Repulsor hasn't finished clearing the Desert Disaster yet. Choices, choices...
I was just playing a bit earlier. My group and I successfully stopped Gigaton from stealing something from the museum. But I have a feeling someone else will try again soon
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I personally recommend the Dark Souls series...unless your a sissy and don't wanna play a skill based game
Giantdad will be your friend, he will teach you how to souls
Mwahahahahahahaha
Now, one could be charitable and say "mistaken" rather than "lying", and ordinarily I would have been charitable. However, the tone of the original post was clearly confrontational, and Plasma's behavior of late has not exactly been conducive of charity; I therefore felt little obligation to be as pleasant as usual.