It would be somewhat out of character for something connected with Star Trek to silence intellectual discussion. Silencing hate speech, discrimination, and/or denigrations, on the other hand, is entirely consistent with the IP.
With that in mind: This I believe. (and there's nothing religious about it.)
We have had multiple threads closed in the last several months with the reasoning that the thread was or turned into a religious discussion. This very thread had a moderator threatening to take action because of religious discussion. If they arent following the policy, thats one thing that may e Trendy might want to take a look at. All I am saying is quash it equally.
To ask the LGBT population to accept that form of discrimation is to ask them to accept a lesser place in society. Every other group - by race, by religion, by sex, by disability - has protections against discrimination in public accomodations. Only LGBT folks lack those protections.
We're not looking for special rights. I personally wouldn't want someone morally opposed to my wedding involved in it - but I haven't been dreaming of a particular baker's or florist's or jeweler's work, ot a particular location. And I will not give ground that is essential to true equality under the law
Yes, but I think it makes you the bigot if you were to demand the service, and worse if you were to take it to court.
I do not endorse bigotry and intolerance used as a crude club against bigotry and intolerance. And, sadly, too often this is what I seem to hear coming from a demographic claiming to desire acceptance.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
Yes, but I think it makes you the bigot if you were to demand the service, and worse if you were to take it to court.
I do not endorse bigotry and intolerance used as a crude club against bigotry and intolerance. And, sadly, too often this is what I seem to hear coming from a demographic claiming to desire acceptance.
... So somehow fighting for equal rights... makes someone a bigot?
you guys, in all this long winded passive aggressive forumpvp thread have forgotten one thing about religion, esp the christian religion, in star trek;
kirk met god and satan on his travels. satan was the good guy and god was killed by klingon disruptor fire from a bop.
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... So somehow fighting for equal rights... makes someone a bigot?
How did that happen?
I'll give a recent example from just a few months ago in Indiana.
A religious couple owned a bakery. They had a homosexual couple come in wanting to order a cake specifically for a homosexual wedding. It was well known this couple was religious and did not support homosexuality, but they had no problem serving TRIBBLE customers just there to buy normal baked goods that were not for something like marriage. They had sold goods to homosexual customers many times in this scenario. Well, when they respectfully declined to bake the wedding cake due to it conflicting with their beliefs, word got out and essentially an outpouring of hate from all over ensued.
It got so bad that the family eventually decided to close despite the support they did get from others in the community. They knew just more of these issues would try to rise up so they decided to just avoid the headache.
There is your bigotry right there. The bakery couple didn't spout hate, they just respectfully declined to do business for just that specific event of a wedding.
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We have had multiple threads closed in the last several months with the reasoning that the thread was or turned into a religious discussion. This very thread had a moderator threatening to take action because of religious discussion. If they arent following the policy, thats one thing that may e Trendy might want to take a look at. All I am saying is quash it equally.
I do not endorse bigotry and intolerance used as a crude club against bigotry and intolerance. And, sadly, too often this is what I seem to hear coming from a demographic claiming to desire acceptance.
How did that happen?
I really hope you are joking.
I'll give a recent example from just a few months ago in Indiana.
A religious couple owned a bakery. They had a homosexual couple come in wanting to order a cake specifically for a homosexual wedding. It was well known this couple was religious and did not support homosexuality, but they had no problem serving TRIBBLE customers just there to buy normal baked goods that were not for something like marriage. They had sold goods to homosexual customers many times in this scenario. Well, when they respectfully declined to bake the wedding cake due to it conflicting with their beliefs, word got out and essentially an outpouring of hate from all over ensued.
It got so bad that the family eventually decided to close despite the support they did get from others in the community. They knew just more of these issues would try to rise up so they decided to just avoid the headache.
There is your bigotry right there. The bakery couple didn't spout hate, they just respectfully declined to do business for just that specific event of a wedding.