see, you roll the zone under cloak, because you're looking for live players, not to waste time on drones, so when you decloak-DBB/BOL2/CRF2/THY2APO/APA then hit EPTS it's just like politely knocking on someone's door to introduce yourself...
isn't it?
I'd say that's more of a "Sup mate!"
A hello is when someone as myself in my fed main decloaks and pounds a klink saying "Sup!" to a fed.
Also:
A fedball is a nerd party and a klinkball is a lolz party.
PVE is actually quite doable with modest gear. It's like Cryptic want to encourage whale spending habits but have enough of a conscience they don't want to make the game unplayable for more modest budgets. Unfortunately, the casualty of this is PVP.
Anyway - much as I find the OP's tone unpleasant, please don't lump all non-PVPers together, OK? Some of us just play for fun, you know...
sure, there are plenty of chill and reasonable people that play pve, that don't come to our section to try to troll or or start TRIBBLE. if you're not a pve'er that feels the need to do those things, im probably not intentionally talking about you.
and yes, you can do pve with pitifully under equipped setups just fine, but that not enough for someone who only has fun in a top of the line ship, competing in the most competitive form of play, pvp. its become about 50 times more expensive and time prohibitive to get to top of the line, and the foundation of everything that made the game fun has been burned to the ground, and there is absolutely no pve gameplay i get any enjoyment out of, so im just so done.
I don't see the point of using builds that exploit the game's current bugs or OTT imbalance because you spend a ton of money and in-game resources and after a month or two they're useless! All they're waiting for is the next patch that'll nerf their build and and then they have to spend more resources squiring the new exploit.
Surely it's better to use a build that allows a little adaptation but is also versatile enough that it doesn't need all that bugged nonesense. Sure it'll require a little thinking and hard work during combat but it'll pay off!
Was destined to end badly with all broken abilities meaningless DPS number boosting.
Cryptics primary focus group for selling power level, R&D craze and recharge traits craze has demolished themeselves.
So with PvP gone completely out of the way, and DPS implosion what's left?
RP?
A ship pack for $200 and 1000hrs of pure EC,marks and XP grinding to queue up for PUG 5man 4yr old mission of 2minutes of spacebar mashing.
The thing is though, I did a match yesterday, managed to get a single/duo queue to pop (shocking I know) and by the end of it, people got angry because they weren't getting easy kills! It was a balanced match, I was actually doing ok and holding my own against 2 people despite my subpar gear and I was dishing out some decent damage. Not shocking amounts but enough to be crippling if I bothered to time and coordinate my attacks (which I didn't due to a sudden attack of stupidity).
My point is, this video illustrated the opinions of the guys that complained yesterday after the match (it ended as a 5-4 because some started leaving and were AFK because it was taking more than 10mins). They were not happy that they had to work for their kills, they were not happy that they had to keep switching targets to coordinate with a pug team on the fly, they were even less happy to follow the guy that decided to take the lead and call targets. They'd rather sit in their little team and run over players without even giving them a chance, sometimes by spawn camping.
I am very pro PvP but the behaviour during and after the 2 matches I had yesterday was just shameful. If people want to act like that and shoot fish in a barrel go do PvE. Learn to respect and have good sportsmanship with players before PvPing
This. 100% this all the way.
On The SHOW, we discussed some of the implications of immunities and mechanics that are seemingly not intended (or shouldn't be imho) to work within the spirit of friendly yet competitive Player versus Player matches.
For the record, I don't like the plasma explosion concept as it exists now, and not because I died to it in the match posted by the OP.
The challenge is up. but since you guys only like trolling and only noticed Snipeys BFAW ship rather than Marshall's ship, which are both in the same team, I bet you are all trolling.
Damnit, Jim! The less they know about me the better!
Yup. Pretty much sums it up. I've given up on complaining since it all falls on deaf ears. Abilites aren't balanced, OP junk keeps being released because they test it on avgerge builds, and science has been reduced to junk status unless you run a part gens or heal build.
OP, dont make me come back with a super OP cheese vice team and embarrass you for a month straight
with all the problems in ESO I need a project, and youre getting deadly close to being one.
You guys were bads then, and im sure youre bads now. (funny how the C-listers start posting vids once the A and B teams of the game quit eh?)
tl;dr: all this thread does is offend the original cheesus team Vice Squad. Taylor would not be amused.
Rylana, you really need to check out some of the new cheese involved here. It's extra cheesy. Hey, you should try playing Rust just for the heck of it. Fun survival PvP involved.
There's not any trolling going on. You obviously don't get it and I doubt you ever will... but I'll give it a go...
Plasma explosions hit for 30k a pop and they can hit multiple times in a row. That will instantly kill anyone, no matter what skill level, no matter what ship and all it takes is FAW and some consoles. This is another example of something that's fine for PvE but OP in PvP.
I'm actually surprised snipey47a posted this at all. It's well below his skill level as anyone can decloak alpha with FAW and plasma explosions and get similar results. I've watched his videos for a while now and I can tell he's a good player. This video is just bad form. If he did the same in an STF I would have said GG and praised him.
Hi,
I posted this because despite the cheese it was 15 to 2... I mean come on.. for a team of tanks they were built very well.
As far as defending against plasma explosion with FAW. Ask SOB, I have a build that can do just that and it is isn't a pilot ship nor does it have cheesy FBP.
INteresting percussion on your chest there, nice E-peen, here's your hard-won internet.
I've noted a trend that the people with your line, are the same people who wouldn't ever touch PvP before they could buy an easy kill.
and that's what people are saying-this was, for lack of a better term, 'buying a win'. It doesn't take skill or timing to pull off a decloak-FAW with Embassy procs.
zero, zip, nada. You can sit a greenie at the keyboard with that build, and he can feel like a Hee-Ro, because it requires no skill or ability to carry it off, just patience (for grinding) and money (to speed it up and buy a Romulan Pilot ship.)
with FAW you don't even have to focus targets-it's area-of-effect and 360 degrees with neither power loss nor skill needed.
Just "Spacebar, spacebar, turn, spacebar, spacebar..."
the mind-blowing part, is that Snipey's proud of this. Proud enough to make a video, proud enough to post and advertise it.
Like it's some kind of accomplishment, when it's really the final outcome of Cryptic's purple-ribbon philosophy where everyone willing to shell out is a winner.
any idiot with enough resources can use the same build and do the same thing. It's not PvP at that point, it's target practice, where you have auto-targeting, a mechansim to load the rifle, aim it, and fire it.
this contrasts with the old DBB double-tap, or the workaround mixed-weapons strike, because either way requires something this doesn't...
Timing, reading the targets, reading their buff cycles, and jockeying for position against someone whom expressly does NOT want you in that position.
the run shown in the vid, requires NONE of that. It only requires resources to pay for stuff.
For Things, Paxdawn. They made a video of a 15-2 no-skill win accomplished solely on the strength of gear.
The last part of what you said I agree with. I personally hate the cheese and stood against it for longer than most. The fact of the matter is that the system is too laggy for cannons and they can't compete with FAW/Plasma explosion. It took me a while to accept it but and drop the cannons from my ship but I had we all still PVP and I was becoming a liability to my team.
That video was recorded on the second day of that ship build and since then we have only really been beaten twice. One was due to lag (not an excuse) but the other was from a team who put their heads together and formulated a strategy to defeat our method of attack. We were mostly ineffectual against and I salute them for not coming on here with tissues and crying to Mommy Forum but actually doing something about it.
Before we go on:
with FAW you don't even have to focus targets-it's area-of-effect and 360 degrees with neither power loss nor skill needed.
That's is absolutely wrong.. FAW uses quite a bit more power than standard beams over an unbuffed firing cycle. Might pay to get your facts straight before getting lippy and delivering cry QQ.
A question to all:
I know I haven't been in the PVP community as long as some, but when something comes along that isn't properly balanced etc, is it the common thing to give up and run to the forums? I have only encountered 1 group so far who has done something about this.. it was highly effective and should be respected for it. If that team continues to use tactics like they showed to me that day, I would be so bold to call them the best team out there at the moment... and thats because they didnt QQ and just got on with it...
I wonder who's QQing now. You were told that match is stupid, senseless and skilless in the forums.
You were told even worse things in the comments. All I see there is a crappy ship that's fitted with beams, faw and explosion consoles. Yeah I see how pro you a... oh wait I don't.
Plasma Explosion consoles are way overpowered, everybody thinks and says that in here. The only one is you, just because you can't get to win without them and that fail faw boat of yours, that relies on 30k shield penetrating procs to win and are plain uncounterable.
way to go high shot. Now go back to your fog and leave this stuff to professionals.
A professional would have responded to my challenge either passing or accepting it.... I'm going to go back to laughing now at the professional comment now lol.
I'm just...why did you bother making the video? This was a face-roll, not a match, certainly not a fight worthy of talking about beyond "okay, so you can read the bug threads."
seriously-this wasn't a match worth the time to play for either side. easy wins aren't interesting, it was like watching those DPS videos, only the number of targets was smaller.
I'll second the comment that "THis doesn't prove there's PvP in there", because all I saw, was you doing target practice passes on unmoving "opponents". I mean, from here, it looked a lot like those 'fleet marks' runs people used to do where one group would take their shields off and sit still to gain the reward the most efficient way possible, the only proof this wasn't a run against NPCs in a patrol, was that someone managed to get two kills on your team, otherwise it'd be "Did they even bother to fight back?" with an answer of "Obviously not."
NOw, I will contrast that with seeing the artistry of a Thissler strike. thissler takes a ship with fewer weapons, fewer consoles, less raw speed, no pilot powers, less of...well...everytihng, and gets kills and it's fun to watch, fun to emulate, fun to do.
any jackhole can run a FAW boat, and if they're halfway PvE competent, they'll do okay-add the Embassy Explosion consoles and they'll 'kill'...but it's not like you had to do any timing, coordination, spot vulnerabilities or (god help us) create them for someone else.
this was kirking in a FAW boat of the Romulan variety-basically ships that pay a pitiful 40 aggregate power (10 from each type) in exchange for four built-in console/boff powers, high hull, high shields, seven weapons hardpoints, battlecloak-with a shorter cooldown, and a full crew of SRO Bridge Officers.
It doesn't take much of a rocket surgeon to run one of those, esp. as a FAW boat, esp. when you add pilot immunities, five tac consoles, and I'm guessing it's the Sci version with four slots for your Embassy Explosion consoles, probably with the ship trait active that adds penetration based on your speed.
basically a very expensive high-end build that's ridiculously easy to win with, possibly to the point of negating any claim of skill whatsoever.
want to impress people? do it in a BoP with a team of BoPs, against first rate opposition who know how to fight against BoPs (or, y'know, take on a team of Romulan Battlecloakers with similar ships and builds, isntead of stationary-target last-year's cruisers that can't cloak.)
as it is, your vid kind of borders on an attempt at public shaming of your opponents (You didn't blur the names on the final scoreboard, which is standard with that stuff), and your OP comment about how they didn't congratulate you on your 'win' but instead just...left?
Borderline unsportsmanlike conduct, and probably worse than their leaving without a word, since you apparently attempted to enlist the censure of the rest of the community (which fits with the rule against 'Naming and shaming').
Yes it was unsporstman like conduct from them in that match and that CNH they warped out of half way through 30 minutes prior.
And to the rest of your nonsense.... read what I was like a few posts above this...
That's is absolutely wrong.. FAW uses quite a bit more power than standard beams over an unbuffed firing cycle. Might pay to get your facts straight before getting lippy and delivering cry QQ.
*cough* Omega Weapon Amplifier *cough*, now, what were you saying about power drain under FAW?
A professional would have responded to my challenge either passing or accepting it.... I'm going to go back to laughing now at the professional comment now lol.
You... kinda dodged his point there. We don't care if you put out offers for matches on "No BS" rules, that doesn't change the fact that you threw up a video of face-roll and called it legitimate PvP. You haven't proven PvP is alive (as per the title), you've proven how broken it is. Try responding again, this time without the strawman.
A professional would have responded to my challenge either passing or accepting it.... I'm going to go back to laughing now at the professional comment now lol.
Just one thing - why would you expect someone whose contention is that gear is the biggest differentiator to challenge you? You expect someone to (based on his expectation) to either a) just throw himself at you with inferior gear and lose, or b) spend hours and resources grinding gear to the expected level? Even if you win, you just prove his point.
did it occur to you that you needed to change your tactics, improve coordination, um...'not kirk'?
If I can be an asset in a Bird of Prey, running fairly vanilla gear, (and I can and have been) then it's not the gear when you've got a ship with more hull, better Battlecloak, Romulan singularity powers, more bridge officer seats, SRO, more speed, more turn-rate, better inertia...
I'm not buying your argument.
So you reckon you know my whole story from that one video? Interesting...
I didn't see them before reacting, Snipey-I watched your VIDEO RECORD. 15-2 is NOT a match, it's not worth recording, it's a face-roll, and it's all gear. I watched what your team was doing and what you were doing, and what your popup targets were doing, from your own video recording.
I mean, jesus, you think everyone here is with Novacore? Seriously? Novacore wouldn't have me on a team-my reflexes are too slow, I don't make use of the right audio-chat system, I don't play Fed...at all. (well, I do have one token fed-the one I started the game with because you had to level a fed to play KDF when I joined here...)
as for "lag issues" iirc, one of the old ways people used to induce lag in Arena maps, was tossing fireworks...like you were doing throughout the so-called 'match' you recorded.
so if you're really having lag problems, maybe discarding the extraneous **** would help some??
Please don't tell me you are a lag denier too.. this is despite the devs releasing a lot of info on the issue. At that time, Command spec tree was causing lag issues (as was Pilot I admit) and all of them were running it in space despite that fact it isn't a good tree for space comabt. I put fireworks on my ship because after all of them warping from a half completed CNH only 30 minutes earlier.
But thanks for the tip.... Fireworks cause lag... I'll call Ripleys.
um, Wrong. at one point long in the past, BFAW had a declining cycle where your power-use actually lowered the damage of each subsequent hit. (the way, say, a normal firing cycle does)
This was changed some time ago. Now, you're only paying for one firing cycle per weapon, instead of paying for EACH firing cycle per weapon.
Do some experimenting, you'll find out I'm right. BFAW from a single-beam will drain 10 power, and fires five times. (as opposed to dropping 50 power from firing five times).
That's it. Not the 50 power it would if the beam was paying for each time it fired while the power is active.
This has been true since oh..august 2013? It was a change to "Make Cruisers more viable", the next change to BFAW was to restore the ability to inflict critical hits-an ability it lost with that prior change.
7 beams you're dropping 70 power, but that's ALL you're dropping.
You probably should have tested this before writing a war and peace post about nothing. This is 100% inaccurate. Go and test and you will see... under an unbuffed firing cycle 8 beams with 10 power cost will cost you 70 power as the first one is free. Under fire at will, all 8 cost you plus an extra 1 per beam...
you weren't USING tactics. you were using BUILD.
Last time I checked, your build was sort of crucial to your tactics as is your team.
Let's go over this...
Your opponents were in mostly slow-moving boats with low defense values, you were in a fast-moving escort with LOTS of defense.
Easily compensated for with a good ship build supported by a good team.. plasma explosion or no plasma explosion.
Your opponents were non-cloaking ships, your team was heavy on cloakers, but not cloakers that pay for the ability, you were in the best machines money could buy, up against last year's lockbox consolation prizes.
Things I did not see:
JHAS
JHSS
Fed Pilot ships
KDF pilot ships
Proves you don't really know what you are talking about... it is not the ship that defines you as a player but how you fly it. The very fact that you haven't worked out how to counter plasma explosion yet demonstrates that you havent got the knowledge or gave up and QQ'd too easily.
You were relying on AOE attacks supplemented by a known bugged console with no resists possible, which means you didn't even have to aim.
Plasma explosion can be resisted and I'm not talking about FBP. And everyone know that the random targets of FAW doesnt utilise Acc overflow.
it's not tactics, Snipey, no matter how much you want to spin it. any idiot could use the same build and get the same result against that opposition.
At this point, I doubt that but sure, if you say so.
hell, if I spent the money and time to buy the gear for your build, even a ****ty player like me could do it.
I actually can't remember the last time I spent money on this game. You might wanna get better at acquiring resources...
and you still refuse to understand why people aren't lining up on your side...you thought a 15-2 match was good.
You actually thought I posted this because I expected people to line up behind me? ROFL. I knew it would get this reaction. Obviously that didn't stop me because I don't actually give a flying duckie. The reason I posted it was because for a supposed PVP fleet to have not worked out how to counter plasma explosion yet was astounding. But above all that is that we had some fun.. after all this is a game, mate. We play it to have fun. I will definitely agree that plasma explosion when used with FAW act completely different to all other weapons & buff attacks (in final edit for a video to demonstrate that fact) but to say it can't be resisted is completely false. SOB can attest to this in the many 1v1's we've had where I have been comfortable able to counter it from a 125k DPS scimitar without breaking too much of a sweat.
y'know, like the gamestore kid who wants to bring their custom-from-home supercharacter into a pre-canned demonstration dungeon crawl at a Convention, or the guy who doesn't 'get' why he can't bring a star of Clan Assaults into a 3026 third succession war map where everyone else is running level 1 gear with no optional rules.
Thanks for that irrelevant piece of information. If I have trouble getting niece to sleep tonight, I'll just read her this.
what you demonstrated was how broken certain gear combinations really are-but that's not the story you were attempting to tell everyone now, is it?
NO. It's not.
As opposed to what? Your complete lack of knowledge? Anyway, mate, your long speeches have been entertaining so please keep them coming. But spare a thought for your own situation.. if you can acquire the resources without paying real world dollars in this game, then maybe you should learn. If you can't counter plasma explosion, maybe you should learn. If aren't happy about the state of PVP in this game (and again for the record, I am most certainly not) then maybe you should adapt just like a certain team of Europeans (you know who you are if you are reading this and I tip my hat to you again) has done.. or you can keep crying.. either is fine with me.
You were PROUD of this faceroll, which from a viewing perspective, was one of the most boring pieces of chest thumping I've seen since the last Wizards of STO video.
Beating a full team from a long established PVP fleet with cheese.. am I proud? Not really. Was it fun? Absolutely.
I already said what i think of their playstyle on youtube, but i'm glad to see my opinion is common through this thread.
Said that, if you want to do a "clean" match, let's wait for some major rubberbanding and latency fix and we are ready for a demonstration
Read better. CSI, Ka -Tet, Sad Pandas and our german friends are ready whenever you want
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MIRRRAAA CHEEEEEZZZZZ, crawl out of the shadows, rise against and end that delta dawn.
actually, what was shown in that vid only reminded me on the times when mirror cheese steamrolled the q's to present all that broken TRIBBLE.
nothing new to see, no old vs. new school sh**... just some broken TRIBBLE in layers, gettin thicker and thicker.
btw:
that may was a nc-fleetmade, but i think the outcome against their 1st premade may would have gone some other way.
get a premade to fight yours, not just a fleetmade. that's like fighting a random opvp-made. sad part is, there are barely real premades left. but i'm kinda sure one or two could be convinced to come back for this thread ...
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"Bigger battles"?? Really!?
I'd say that's more of a "Sup mate!"
A hello is when someone as myself in my fed main decloaks and pounds a klink saying "Sup!" to a fed.
Also:
A fedball is a nerd party and a klinkball is a lolz party.
Those PvEers take their records seriously. :P
Coming in at a moving target and dropping a BO+THY in a <2 second window is skill. (aka the Thissler special... or alpha strike)
All I saw was a skillless faw-video where nothing interesting happend
It is so sad PvP turned out this way......
Greetz Siegfried
sure, there are plenty of chill and reasonable people that play pve, that don't come to our section to try to troll or or start TRIBBLE. if you're not a pve'er that feels the need to do those things, im probably not intentionally talking about you.
and yes, you can do pve with pitifully under equipped setups just fine, but that not enough for someone who only has fun in a top of the line ship, competing in the most competitive form of play, pvp. its become about 50 times more expensive and time prohibitive to get to top of the line, and the foundation of everything that made the game fun has been burned to the ground, and there is absolutely no pve gameplay i get any enjoyment out of, so im just so done.
omg hahaha they take themselves and their little npc turkey shoot so seriously lololol
Surely it's better to use a build that allows a little adaptation but is also versatile enough that it doesn't need all that bugged nonesense. Sure it'll require a little thinking and hard work during combat but it'll pay off!
Cryptics primary focus group for selling power level, R&D craze and recharge traits craze has demolished themeselves.
So with PvP gone completely out of the way, and DPS implosion what's left?
RP?
A ship pack for $200 and 1000hrs of pure EC,marks and XP grinding to queue up for PUG 5man 4yr old mission of 2minutes of spacebar mashing.
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This. 100% this all the way.
On The SHOW, we discussed some of the implications of immunities and mechanics that are seemingly not intended (or shouldn't be imho) to work within the spirit of friendly yet competitive Player versus Player matches.
For the record, I don't like the plasma explosion concept as it exists now, and not because I died to it in the match posted by the OP.
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"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
Damnit, Jim! The less they know about me the better!
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
with all the problems in ESO I need a project, and youre getting deadly close to being one.
You guys were bads then, and im sure youre bads now. (funny how the C-listers start posting vids once the A and B teams of the game quit eh?)
tl;dr: all this thread does is offend the original cheesus team Vice Squad. Taylor would not be amused.
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Yup. Pretty much sums it up. I've given up on complaining since it all falls on deaf ears. Abilites aren't balanced, OP junk keeps being released because they test it on avgerge builds, and science has been reduced to junk status unless you run a part gens or heal build.
Rylana, you really need to check out some of the new cheese involved here. It's extra cheesy. Hey, you should try playing Rust just for the heck of it. Fun survival PvP involved.
The drama with the DPS channels has been pretty entertaining.
Wow... thank you for the giving us this delicious QQ. I do such enjoy the "I'm gonna show you guys" speech and you were one of the best :-)
Snipey
Hi,
I posted this because despite the cheese it was 15 to 2... I mean come on.. for a team of tanks they were built very well.
As far as defending against plasma explosion with FAW. Ask SOB, I have a build that can do just that and it is isn't a pilot ship nor does it have cheesy FBP.
The last part of what you said I agree with. I personally hate the cheese and stood against it for longer than most. The fact of the matter is that the system is too laggy for cannons and they can't compete with FAW/Plasma explosion. It took me a while to accept it but and drop the cannons from my ship but I had we all still PVP and I was becoming a liability to my team.
That video was recorded on the second day of that ship build and since then we have only really been beaten twice. One was due to lag (not an excuse) but the other was from a team who put their heads together and formulated a strategy to defeat our method of attack. We were mostly ineffectual against and I salute them for not coming on here with tissues and crying to Mommy Forum but actually doing something about it.
Before we go on:
That's is absolutely wrong.. FAW uses quite a bit more power than standard beams over an unbuffed firing cycle. Might pay to get your facts straight before getting lippy and delivering cry QQ.
A question to all:
I know I haven't been in the PVP community as long as some, but when something comes along that isn't properly balanced etc, is it the common thing to give up and run to the forums? I have only encountered 1 group so far who has done something about this.. it was highly effective and should be respected for it. If that team continues to use tactics like they showed to me that day, I would be so bold to call them the best team out there at the moment... and thats because they didnt QQ and just got on with it...
Anyway, enjoy the rest of your QQ.
A professional would have responded to my challenge either passing or accepting it.... I'm going to go back to laughing now at the professional comment now lol.
Yes it was unsporstman like conduct from them in that match and that CNH they warped out of half way through 30 minutes prior.
And to the rest of your nonsense.... read what I was like a few posts above this...
Case closed.
/throw tissues & leave the thread.
*cough* Omega Weapon Amplifier *cough*, now, what were you saying about power drain under FAW?
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You... kinda dodged his point there. We don't care if you put out offers for matches on "No BS" rules, that doesn't change the fact that you threw up a video of face-roll and called it legitimate PvP. You haven't proven PvP is alive (as per the title), you've proven how broken it is. Try responding again, this time without the strawman.
Yeah this - The op has inadvertently shown why pvp is dead.
Just one thing - why would you expect someone whose contention is that gear is the biggest differentiator to challenge you? You expect someone to (based on his expectation) to either a) just throw himself at you with inferior gear and lose, or b) spend hours and resources grinding gear to the expected level? Even if you win, you just prove his point.
Really now, have some more empathy, will you?
So you reckon you know my whole story from that one video? Interesting...
Please don't tell me you are a lag denier too.. this is despite the devs releasing a lot of info on the issue. At that time, Command spec tree was causing lag issues (as was Pilot I admit) and all of them were running it in space despite that fact it isn't a good tree for space comabt. I put fireworks on my ship because after all of them warping from a half completed CNH only 30 minutes earlier.
But thanks for the tip.... Fireworks cause lag... I'll call Ripleys.
You probably should have tested this before writing a war and peace post about nothing. This is 100% inaccurate. Go and test and you will see... under an unbuffed firing cycle 8 beams with 10 power cost will cost you 70 power as the first one is free. Under fire at will, all 8 cost you plus an extra 1 per beam...
Last time I checked, your build was sort of crucial to your tactics as is your team.
Easily compensated for with a good ship build supported by a good team.. plasma explosion or no plasma explosion.
Proves you don't really know what you are talking about... it is not the ship that defines you as a player but how you fly it. The very fact that you haven't worked out how to counter plasma explosion yet demonstrates that you havent got the knowledge or gave up and QQ'd too easily.
Plasma explosion can be resisted and I'm not talking about FBP. And everyone know that the random targets of FAW doesnt utilise Acc overflow.
At this point, I doubt that but sure, if you say so.
I actually can't remember the last time I spent money on this game. You might wanna get better at acquiring resources...
You actually thought I posted this because I expected people to line up behind me? ROFL. I knew it would get this reaction. Obviously that didn't stop me because I don't actually give a flying duckie. The reason I posted it was because for a supposed PVP fleet to have not worked out how to counter plasma explosion yet was astounding. But above all that is that we had some fun.. after all this is a game, mate. We play it to have fun. I will definitely agree that plasma explosion when used with FAW act completely different to all other weapons & buff attacks (in final edit for a video to demonstrate that fact) but to say it can't be resisted is completely false. SOB can attest to this in the many 1v1's we've had where I have been comfortable able to counter it from a 125k DPS scimitar without breaking too much of a sweat.
Thanks for that irrelevant piece of information. If I have trouble getting niece to sleep tonight, I'll just read her this.
As opposed to what? Your complete lack of knowledge? Anyway, mate, your long speeches have been entertaining so please keep them coming. But spare a thought for your own situation.. if you can acquire the resources without paying real world dollars in this game, then maybe you should learn. If you can't counter plasma explosion, maybe you should learn. If aren't happy about the state of PVP in this game (and again for the record, I am most certainly not) then maybe you should adapt just like a certain team of Europeans (you know who you are if you are reading this and I tip my hat to you again) has done.. or you can keep crying.. either is fine with me.
Beating a full team from a long established PVP fleet with cheese.. am I proud? Not really. Was it fun? Absolutely.
MIRRRAAA CHEEEEEZZZZZ, crawl out of the shadows, rise against and end that delta dawn.
actually, what was shown in that vid only reminded me on the times when mirror cheese steamrolled the q's to present all that broken TRIBBLE.
nothing new to see, no old vs. new school sh**... just some broken TRIBBLE in layers, gettin thicker and thicker.
btw:
that may was a nc-fleetmade, but i think the outcome against their 1st premade may would have gone some other way.
get a premade to fight yours, not just a fleetmade. that's like fighting a random opvp-made. sad part is, there are barely real premades left. but i'm kinda sure one or two could be convinced to come back for this thread