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straden0
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Supremely disappointed, to the point near disgrace for this Star Trek community. Star Trek stands for the ideals of humanity amongst many other things. This kind of behavior is not
one of them. I thought we were Star Trek fans, I would like to think we are better than this.
I can go on about this new generation and their behavior, but that in itself would only dismantle my own attempt at making a point.
Oh and yes, I do realize there are plenty of people here who couldnt give a flying frack about Star Trek and are only here to blow stuff up.. The fact remains though.. threatening people? Over what? Ugh.
Not sure what the TOS and UA says but something like that should be a bannable offense, forum and game wise.
Very sad.
one of them. I thought we were Star Trek fans, I would like to think we are better than this.
I can go on about this new generation and their behavior, but that in itself would only dismantle my own attempt at making a point.
Oh and yes, I do realize there are plenty of people here who couldnt give a flying frack about Star Trek and are only here to blow stuff up.. The fact remains though.. threatening people? Over what? Ugh.
Not sure what the TOS and UA says but something like that should be a bannable offense, forum and game wise.
Very sad.
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It happens, the best thing you can do is not to lower yourself to their level.
If all else fails, an oldie but a goodie, "rocks and stones my break my bones, but words will never hurt me"
Or as I heard at my son's school the other day, "I know your are but what am I."
nowaday every moron walks into a lamppost checking his/her email on his/her brand new smartphone , which is exactly the same as last year's except for the version number
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology
I wonder how that phrase got so popular when it is so demonstrably false. I can say from experience that words hurt, and the pain can last much longer than any physical injury caused by projectiles.
That said, responses must be measured. Only in America do we come up with "solutions" that are worse than the problem. We can't just "throw people away" because we don't like what they do or say.
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Sadly. Close minded, unscientific and unable to even tolerate other SciFi comes to mind as well.
Of course not all Trek fans fit that description, but the number appears to be... out of proportion.
... The kind who use the internet as their last safe-haven playground, partly because they think they are unidentifiable and can do just about anything they want, literally without reproach even if it provokes real life repercussions. The moments they live for are the moments when they can cause the biggest trouble, and of course, it's never their fault. When things get too hot, they just lay low and wait till it cools over knowing people will likely just forget about it in a week. That's a little insight into the sociopath brain from someone who has wrangled those types on occasion and documented how they operate. There really ought to be laws regarding some troublesome online behavior I've seen. Given enough time the way things are going on the internet, eventually there will be.
Btw, Trendy's reply is HERE for anyone who missed it.
Sad that you can't be open about your gender identify without fear of blatant discrimination fortunately however STO is a diverse game, and I heard someone say that taco fangs was TRIBBLE but that's probably a rumour.
Freedom is personal. Your freedom stops as soon as it involves somebody else's freedom.
That is easy.
The annonimity in Internet (although it is not that big than most people assume - just realize the "5 eyes") is a turn down for behaviour. It has ever been. I am travelling the WWW since about 30 years. Believe me, there have been lots of idiots before. The age has dropped for some members of the community and younger people tend to be more outspoken and less controlled in almost every aspect of life. We, the elder and sometimes more experienced people, should be able to stand a bit of heat.
But I prefer direct speech. Clear and sometimes hard. I don't like personal attacks. But fights about FACTS are fine by me.
I can stand a bit. I am really astonished to have seen a thread of more than 140 pages being closed for slight inflammatory speech on about a dozen posts of just a few people. Cleaning those posts and giving their posters some time to reconsider their behaviour would have been a better solution.
Bad behaviour can be routed, if you are willing to stand up against them.
Professional Trolls will be ignored and if they are unwilling to learn, they will be banned.
But I miss a button to alert moderators about such speeches. I don't like to feed Trolls and answering them is feeding them. If I had the option to tell somebody "get it out, because...", I would use it instead. - I did in other forums.
Anonymity is not the problem, in fact that should be considered sacred. It's not so much the laws, it's how to apply real world responsibility to the internet so that people stop to think of it as a game where nothing they say or do really matters. Sociopaths think of people and life itself as a game, imagine what they think of the internet and a game ON the internet. I'm not biased against sociopaths either, I know some are highly functional and use their skills irl for good, so it's not a sociopath problem, it's a behavior problem. There's no law on earth that can solve that, only keep it in check temporarily.
What I meant was that *I* wasn't calling anyone an idiot.
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the saddest part of your need to feel entitled is how misinformed your opinion is. you are trying to force a point where it doesnt fit. now since you gone to all the trouble to dig that hole with yourself in it, i will let you figure out whats in the package i threw in there, its upto you what you find in it unless you want to continue to feel more entitled but then it turns into arrogance.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
My character Tsin'xing
So, business as usually for the crazy side of the fandom.
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And then occasional engage in forum wars on the subject as has been the case since the first fandom schism in 1973*.
*Though it was more fanzine based until the internet.
Very true, it will be quite some time before we reach the Federation like haven many trekies have dreamt about, one of the reason I love Star Trek so much is that the show has always fought for equality since the first episode where Uhura and Kirk kissed, something which outraged many conservative groups much like having same sex couples on TV does today, even now there is still blatant racism like the incident where Chelsea fans kicked a black man off a train, we'd like to think that kind of immoral behaviour is behind us but unfortunately prejudice still rears it's ugly head.
People that knows they can hide behind a screen do these things. And usually gets away with it. Banning don't really do much. Other than keeping them off what ever it was on. Its not the first time and won't be the last. You have them in chat rooms, messengers, forums, games, and etc. Over the years I saw it on a few occasions. Some over really stupid stuff on top of that.
It just goes to show how immature, immoral, or hateful some people can be. Its really sad.
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In a moment of pure, unfiltered honesty, I don't actually think such a thing will ever be truly possible. Based on history, what we see happening in our own societies, and basic human behavior...I think the best we could reasonably hope for is some form of benevolent dictator. When things are good for long enough, human nature seems to revert to selfishness and division.
That's why I believe fiction, religion, even just fantasies are so powerful, and make people so emotional. We want to believe in something better, some form of justice. In stories, the good guy usually wins, but in reality the bad guy usually does.
Think about how many crimes go unsolved (only about 64% of murders in the US are solved, and it by far has the highest close rate of criminal activity), how many cruel dictators and warlords throughout history are truly brought down, how many corrupt politicians and corporate leaders, how many disease go untreated, and so on.
The reality is that the bad guy at least gets away, if not outright wins. Belief in some sort of retribution and sense of justice helps soften the blow.
That's depressing, jaded, who knows what else, but you can't fix a problem if you deny that it exists. Accepting it is the first step to understanding it, and hopefully overcoming it.