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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thread merge.

    Please use existing threads to discuss current issues rather than starting new threads.

    Thank you!
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    so? if thats your point, post it in another thread.




    so you post a thread that wasnt needed OP, and now you are both flaming each other?

    Real mature right ?
    :p


    I suppose I should have looked around first for an already existing thread.
    Next time I will.

    In reguards to flamming Mr nugget.
    *shrugs* he's kind of a jerk whenever I read something from him.

    I mean I'm no angel, but this guy goes out of his way to try and put down people.
    Sometimes you have tell it like it is.


    You can message bluegeek or another mod to close this thread if you like. Guess its redundant.
    But I liked the Calrissian angle. :p
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bluegeek just merged it for you.

    Now it looks like you randomly started a fight. A problem with merging threads but oh so entertaining.
  • lordcuttersladelordcutterslade Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited May 2015

    4) FACT IS THAT NOT A GROUP LARGE ENOUGH OF PLAYERS SUFFER FROM IT OR CRYPTIC WOULD HAVE PULLED THE PLUG AKA TAKE DOWN THE SERVERS ON THE GAME TO GET THE PROBLEM FIXED,THIS LEADS TO POINTS 5.

    HAHA

    Do you seriously believe that? lol
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Actually I recall some of the bad lag in the past and I recall the developers fixing them.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Whoa, whoa, WHOA.

    Please let's not turn this into an US Vs. THEM mentality, no matter who the THEM is.

    The fact is, there is a problem, it has been acknowledged, and I can tell you that it's one of Trendy's high priorities to see that it gets addressed because she's said as much and because she continues to engage people who are involved.

    The number of people affected isn't that important. What's important is that people are being affected by a systemic problem within the game and where it's something that the Devs can actually do something about it, they're working on it.
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  • belidosbelidos Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Show me the newspaper headlines,CNN and BBC news stating that the whole playerbase (what you guys want us to believe) cant play the game...do it and ill shut up and never post again.

    Seriously? You really think CNN and the BBC would ever publish an article about a game experiencing lag? We could have a billion players each and every one complaining and it wouldn't hit national news, it's not the type of news they report. That is the single most stupid statement I have ever seen you post.

    As to the rest of what you have said, cryptic wouldn't shut down the servers to fix lag (apart from short maintenances etc which they do already do) it would be financially disasterous to do so, and although I agree the lag isn't as wide spread as some say it is, it is very prevelant amongst a very large portion of the community, this has been confirmed by PWE/Cryptic themselves multiple times.
  • lordcuttersladelordcutterslade Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Show me the newspaper headlines,CNN and BBC news stating that the whole playerbase (what you guys want us to believe) cant play the game...do it and ill shut up and never post again.

    Check the technical forum: "PC, Network, and Other Technical Issues"

    There's hundreds of "lag,launcher issues,rubberbanding,SNR,game crashes" threads.

    "Everything is awesome!"

    ...
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bluegeek wrote: »
    Whoa, whoa, WHOA.

    Please let's not turn this into an US Vs. THEM mentality, no matter who the THEM is.

    The fact is, there is a problem, it has been acknowledged, and I can tell you that it's one of Trendy's high priorities to see that it gets addressed because she's said as much and because she continues to engage people who are involved.

    The number of people affected isn't that important. What's important is that people are being affected by a systemic problem within the game and where it's something that the Devs can actually do something about it, they're working on it.

    Again, ENOUGH.

    The number of players involved is irrelevant. If people keep harping on this point instead of the actual problem, they're trolling.
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Guys stop being baited by Plasmanugget,he has already said he isn't experiencing lag, therefore couldn't careless about those of us that are, Isn't my problem is the attitude.

    Just let it go over your head, because at the end of the day i don't care if he isn't having issues i have been, a lot of other people have been, i see when logged on is the dps 10/30k channels complaining in chat about the lag and rubber banding, If i play any of the Borg stf's with them i get major lag with or without command ships. If i decide to pug a normal theres considerably less lag probably due to a lack of traits, specialisations, and powers being used, putting less strain on the map, but its there, Is the game unplayable for me, Isa last night was and so was Cure but i could play Voth Battlezone with some map slowdowns so no not unplayable just certain areas are.

    There is an issue it has been identified by Cryptic, we have a right as consumers to voice our concerns over a product that appears to be faulty when we use it. Plasmanugget can either voice his options in a more civilised way and drop the attitude, or just let these posts go over his head.

    Turning these very real issues into a flaming war doesn't help anyone and if Cryptic can fix the lag for the people experiencing it then its a win for every player because it means a massive change to any of these things,

    Game Engine, Power/Skill/Specialisation coding streamlined to be more efficient, updated and more reliable servers making the game more stable and perform better.
  • x1c3c0ldxx1c3c0ldx Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Anyone who says he doesn't have lag, DOESN'T know what lag is.
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  • phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Whoa whoa, I never intended this thread to go into a trollfest here, I merely wanted to point out that there wasn't a change in lag for me and a whole slew of other people after the patch, I didn't post this to paint a bullseye on anyone's rear you know.

    If you don't have lag, honestly no one cares. If you do have lag, take heart it's still a known issue and hopefully we'll get this resolved as soon as possible so let's just hope for the best. At least the devs are working on it judging by the Reddit post Salami made (https://twitter.com/Salami_Inferno/status/598995694448283649).
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  • borgified007borgified007 Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Wow man just tried to grind my iconian rep today playing herald sphere. Had to leave the queue. The lag was so bad the event was unplayable. Jesus man what is going on. Heck even just idling in space at spacedock I could see other ships flying around doing the stop start motion indicative of lag. Speedtest.net says my speed is just fine. Grrrrr
  • borgified007borgified007 Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yep 30 meg down 10 up 13 sec ping. It's definitely a cryptic issue. I shudder to think what will happen when Risa event starts....
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  • x1c3c0ldxx1c3c0ldx Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    Give Cryptic some time to fix things as they said some changes will take a while.

    Haha, time, fix things?
    The lag is present since delta rising, i don't know how much time
    they need, but its been quite a long time already.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ground maps' lag is quite tolerable. I'd get friendly with ground if I were you
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  • sarcasmdetectorsarcasmdetector Member Posts: 1,176 Media Corps
    edited May 2015
    x1c3c0ldx wrote: »
    Haha, time, fix things?
    The lag is present since delta rising, i don't know how much time
    they need, but its been quite a long time already.
    valoreah wrote: »
    If you feel you can do better, by all means submit a resume to Cryptic. Not everything can get fixed overnight. Not everything can get fixed in 1 week. Not everything can get fixed in one month.

    The lag has been going on (and getting worse) for many months, but they've only started working on fixing it recently. So most likely it's going to take many more months to fix it completely.

    A month or so ago a lead dev was asked about the lag and they replied: "there is lag because people love the game too much." so obviously they (or at least some of the leads) weren't taking the issue seriously.

    We've had 6 months of lag, and will probably have 6 more due to the fact the issue had been ignored for more "important" player progression nerfs and introducing more pay 2 lag content...

    This is why i'm calling it "The Year of Nerfs and Lag"
  • kaspa000kaspa000 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This is why i'm calling it "The Year of Nerfs and Lag"

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  • laferrari1laferrari1 Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Just logged in.

    Lag is HORRIFIC.
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  • earwigvr6earwigvr6 Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I am just about done with this game.

    What is the point of logging in if I am unable to play due to the lag ? Enough is enough now.

    It's just not funny anymore. At first it was amusing to see how much lag we could endure, but now 6 months later that has worn very thin.

    I really don't want to quit this game, but really ? What is the point anymore ?

    Dev's clearly do not care about this issue at all otherwise it would have been addressed quite some time ago.

    The fact that I find most distressing is they carry on releasing new ships and when there is uproar over it they claim, why stop their art department ? Why stop the development of new ships which has nothing to do with the lag ?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but ships have powers right ? Such as the command ships ? These powers and abilities need to be coded ? Previous ships have poor code which is the result of the lag ?

    So why are those coders creating new code for new abilities for new ships rather than fixing the ones that are already here that are very clearly broken and creating an immense amount of lag ?

    Unless you start caring about this game, it's all but over.

    From the end of this post I shall be on my way to cancelling my monthly sub. Never got the lifetime sub as I felt the game was worth giving that little bit more for in the long run. Seems that has now come to an end.

    Was fun whilst it lasted though. :(
  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I find this lag issue to be somewhat odd and interesting at the same time. On the one hand you have people complaining daily about how horrible it is. But at the same time you have people such as myself who have no trouble at all.

    So while it might be widespread, it's not universal. Seeing that list of items makes me wonder if combinations of certain things cause lag for people, but those who don't have those combinations are free and fine.

    Kinda like the Joker venom in the Tim Burton Batman movie. No one thing will do it, but certain key combinations and you're in trouble.
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  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    edited May 2015
    belidos wrote: »
    Seriously? You really think CNN and the BBC would ever publish an article about a game experiencing lag? We could have a billion players each and every one complaining and it wouldn't hit national news, it's not the type of news they report. That is the single most stupid statement I have ever seen you post.

    As to the rest of what you have said, cryptic wouldn't shut down the servers to fix lag (apart from short maintenances etc which they do already do) it would be financially disasterous to do so, and although I agree the lag isn't as wide spread as some say it is, it is very prevelant amongst a very large portion of the community, this has been confirmed by PWE/Cryptic themselves multiple times.

    Food for thought:

    There have been articles about gaming in MSM that list specific in-game issues, as well as cultural issues. WoW has received the most exposure, with the most notable being a case study performed by the CDC about an in-game event. The major US news outlets and the BBC reported on it.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Food for thought:

    There have been articles about gaming in MSM that list specific in-game issues, as well as cultural issues. WoW has received the most exposure, with the most notable being a case study performed by the CDC about an in-game event. The major US news outlets and the BBC reported on it.

    cultural issues?
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Ok Craptic you win. I surrender, no more borg stf's, Tell me what content i should be playing that will make ur metrics happy and be lag free.

    Borg stf's are even worse since last thursdays patch. Normally its Infected where i experience lag and rubber banding . but now Cure and Khitomer are just as bad where as before the map may have spits and spats but is still run able . Its not fun anymore. Time to walk away, you've killed the fun (i'd even go as far as saying it was with intent to destroy these maps as i haven't experienced consistent lag like this in any other map. Sure i've had lag and rubber banding but intermittent and random, these maps i can guarantee lag and rubber banding every time)
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