Replace Borg Red Alerts with Heralds

cadony

It only makes sense, doesn't it? The Borg have been defeated so many times; it's absurd that they're still popping up when we have repeatedly killed the Queen and whatnot. Cryptic wanted to make the Iconian heralds seem menacing? This is one of the ways to do that.

evilmark444

signed.

/10 characters

thecosmic1

Well, to be fair, the Feds and KDF were in a war for years yet once I reached about level 15 I never saw a KDF again - as I had moved on to Romulans, then Cardassians, then Borg, etc.

duncanidaho11

Good idea, but here's a compromise (since it shouldn't take any work what-so-ever)

Replace sector enemy engagements with Herald (for the duration of Season 10) or add Herald enemy engagements to the current selection.

The borg red alert has a very particular structure to it (that an Iconinian respray perhaps might not suit. A dreadnaught is not a unimatrix.) The sector engagements don't. Spawn Herald instead of borg/voth/klingon/tal shiar/ect. Job done.

amezuki

Uh, no. Please do not do the thing. Some of us really like the Borg and greatly enjoy that instance.

Add Heralds? Sure. Awesome. Add them to the rotating list of baddies. But don't take away something people still enjoy in order to do it.

cadony

Okay, maybe not totally replace, but it makes more sense for the Heralds to appear anywhere given that they have the gateways.

generalmoco

oh them borg alerts are getting old... I still do them, but oh man.... im burned out... lol

anyhow... "Adding" some heralds instances would be awesome, but if I know Cryptic... teehee, not gonna happen...

imruined

I'd definitely support mixing them up at least...

No need to do away with Borg Red Alerts completely, but throwing some Herald Red Alerts into the mix would indeed be a nice move...

bobtheskull99

yeah, no need to replace them, but adding heralds to the mix would be neat

cadony

Fine. Shamless self-bumping until cryptic sees this. (which they won't)

farmallm

I would have them rotate. Call it a "Red Alert" but have a different enemy in it. You won't know until you click it. It could be from a pirate all way up to the Heralds. Even some planet or base action would be good just like this.

talonxv

How bout actually fighting a war. Got a better idea. Know all those planets like Betazed or Frengar, how bout doing some instances where EX:

"Betazed is under attack from the Hearlds, all hands on deck to repel the invasion!"

If we fail, planet falls, then we have to launch a counter attack to retake it and we get no rewards for trying to defend, if we succeed, we get a nice reward and it adds some realism to actually fighting a war.

farmallm

talonxv wrote: »

How bout actually fighting a war. Got a better idea. Know all those planets like Betazed or Frengar, how bout doing some instances where EX:

"Betazed is under attack from the Hearlds, all hands on deck to repel the invasion!"

If we fail, planet falls, then we have to launch a counter attack to retake it and we get no rewards for trying to defend, if we succeed, we get a nice reward and it adds some realism to actually fighting a war.

This is good too. It can happen every day and reset at different hours. To give everyone a chance. Similar to the events in the Dyson.

crypticarmsman

I will never understand people wanting to remove content. Why not just ADD 'Herald' based RAs to the mix? (BTW - no one is FORCING you to do either Borg or Tholian RAs, you have the option of selecting - maintain course, we will not engage...)

roadghost

My main, who has a bazillion Omega marks and enough neural processors to open an outlet store loves this idea.

My Delta Recruits who are all still leveling up the Omega rep to get the goodies hate it.

I'll let them fight it out and side with the winner.

xenification

instead of replacing them add them to it.

so bassically once you take out the borg heralds are hot on your tail kind of like a chain reaction, herald fleets moving all over the galaxy right now attacking at will they detect weapons fire realize who is shooting who and decide to take advantage of the situation?

sounds reasonable right?

then have the choice between iconian and omerga marks etc...

or you could simply do a seperate space action for them.

you know to portray the war as a war instead of just episodes lol

either way works

jodarkrider

Uh-huh, don't touch my Borg! :eek:

On serious note - removing it is bad idea. People should be able to pick their battles, and content they enjoy playing. adding Heralds as encounters, however, would be nice for those, who enjoy the story-arc, giving them bigger feel of actual war happening.

xenification

talonxv wrote: »

How bout actually fighting a war. Got a better idea. Know all those planets like Betazed or Frengar, how bout doing some instances where EX:

"Betazed is under attack from the Hearlds, all hands on deck to repel the invasion!"

If we fail, planet falls, then we have to launch a counter attack to retake it and we get no rewards for trying to defend, if we succeed, we get a nice reward and it adds some realism to actually fighting a war.

THIS THIS THIS!!

PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE.

*contains excitment*

okay seriously, this would be very cool indeed.

they really do need to flesh out the idea that this is a war and not just do it through Queues and Episodes

jasecurtis

Maybe have Herald Red Alerts, but make them exclusive to level 60 players? I know some (most?) won't care, but you won't have encountered the Heralds before then.

And yes, some missions or even just patrols in systems like Betazed or Trill would be great.

thenoname711

Yes, instead of replacing add also herald red alerts. But create something original, like tholians wiping borg before players' eyes and borg command ship arriving after 4 groups have been defeated instead of just copy-pasting herald ships to existing map.
Something simple is enough, like defend random-number starbase from attacking herald forces.

flash525

I would instead offer up different alerts.

True Way/Terran/Breen in the Alpha Quadrant

Elachi & Tholian in and around Tau Dewa

Tholian & Fek'lhr in and around Qo'nos

Borg and Tal Shiar in the top-right of the Beta Quadrant

Herald and Undine near Earth

Borg and Vaudwaar in the Delta Quadrant

etc

angrytarg

I think they should develop new red alerts and throw all of them in a mix, so you get the distress cal with transwarp option but a random red alert event. This way you don't need to replace anything, just add more variation.

cadony

Also, red alerts are as simple as it gets; I have no idea why Cryptic didn't throw it in. It's just a map with enemies! They really don't have to work hard with this one; if Cryptic never implements something like this, that will only show how silly/lazy they can be, which is ridiculous.

woodwhity

duncanidaho11 wrote: »

A dreadnaught is not a unimatrix.

You mean the Dreadnaught what actually show up?

robert359

I am for keeping the Borg, add the Heralds to the mix of red alerts.

grayfoxjames

Awful idea...don't replace them. I think the Borg are still the greatest and coolest enemy. No emotions, makes them scarier. I say they write the Borg back as the biggest threat. Let the Borg once again find a way to assimilate the Undine and the Iconians as well ...resistance is futile!

trennan

While we're on this subject. Alpha Quad could use something other than Borg Red Alerts. That's all that over there. But in Deep Space Encounters is has True Way, Elachi, and Breen. But only Borg Red Alerts.

And while we're here. Why not add some Inconian Deep Space Encounters. Other than the ones I listed. Alpha Quad is boring. No wonder the humans left it.

thlaylierah

I like this idea,

120 stupid seconds. (referring to whoever thought this was a good idea.)