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Idea for a Heavy Science Deadnought
simeion1
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I am placing this in the general discussion because it belongs to all factions instead of faction based ship yard area. I made this ship to be OP with the idea of it competing with a Scimitar but science like.
Well, I have been struggling with some of the ships and DPS that comes out of them. While we know all really high DPS is usually done with tactical captains in a Scimitar, escort, battle cruiser, or dreadnought, this leaves me to think it is time to produce a new science ship. While I usually play Fed Sci Captain, I do see a need for Romulans and Klingons to get another science ship. My problem with this is I dont see that many science captains from other factions. So this new ship I think would be best put in the Lobi store.
My idea would to take a ship we know nothing about and possibly convert it to a new class of ship called Heavy Science Dreadnought. Just as an example I would pick the Hierarchys ships and use it the Lobi store ship. Not much is known about this ship and we could make it something special. We could use another species if we had to (How about a Deferi).
Some ideas I have had with this idea is to make it a science version of a Scimitar. This is making me think of a 4/2 weapons load out. Give it a hanger bay this will at least give players an option that is like the Vesta Class ship that is not a fed. I would like to also give it a faction specific energy type high efficiency Omni-directional beam array (reclaimable). The modifiers would be (Arc) (CrtD) (CrtH). It would be high efficiency because it would only drain 4 weapons power and 10-20% more damage; this might appease the players that dont like faction specific weapons.
So almost every ship that is in Lobi, lockbox, or Zen Store comes with a special console; the console I have in mind is called the Chaos Theory Generator. The CTG would quadruple threat while making the player immune to damage. All damage dealt to the player would either refract back to a random target to damage them or refract the damage back to the player and his team has hull and shield heals. Since the player is immune to damage all abilities and weapons would be offline. The only thing a player would be able to do is pilot the ship. Because of the name of the console I would make it the ability console random as possible. 50/50 chance of it either healing team or refracting damage. Give this console a standard cooldown and a 10 second up time. When the 10 seconds is up, threat would be restored back to normal.
Since tier 6 ships need a trait my idea would be Giving Her All Shes Got. This would give engineer powers a 10% cooldown for every science or hybrid ability used while taking damage with a 5 second between each power. Standard cooldown rules apply.
Race specific drones would be the same except for the damage type. These are the hangar bay pets that come with the ship. These should be the size of a runabout or delta flier. They should come three beam arrays forward and one aft. The special ability would be HYT. And the torpedo would be a Tetryon based like the plasma torp. Except for plasma burn it would be a shield drain. The high yield version is destroyable. The more rare the pet the higher the HYT would get.
Minimum Rank: Vice Admiral
Hull Strength: 34,155 at 50 and 39,600 at 60
Shield Modifier: 1.43
Crew: 150
Weapons: 4 Fore, 2 Aft
Device Slots: 3
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Tactical,
1 Lieutenant Hybrid*, 1 Commander Science, 1 Lieutenant Universal, 1 Lieutenant Engineering
Console Upgrades: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 4 Science
Base Turn Rate: 14 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.17
+10 Power to Auxiliary/+5 Weapons
Subsystem Targeting
Sensor Analysis
Secondary Deflector Slot
Hangar Bay (Race Specific Drones)
Starship Ability Package (Science Vessel)
o Enhanced Particle Generators (+Exotic Damage)
o Advanced Shield Systems (+Shield HP)
o Enhanced Restorative Circuitry (+Healing)
o Reactive Shield Technology (+Shield Regen/Hardness)
o Trait (Giving it all Shes Got)
*Lieutenant Hybrid: This has to be one of the new skill sets. Pilot, Intel, or Command.
Please give me some feed back, support, and change some ideas.
Well, I have been struggling with some of the ships and DPS that comes out of them. While we know all really high DPS is usually done with tactical captains in a Scimitar, escort, battle cruiser, or dreadnought, this leaves me to think it is time to produce a new science ship. While I usually play Fed Sci Captain, I do see a need for Romulans and Klingons to get another science ship. My problem with this is I dont see that many science captains from other factions. So this new ship I think would be best put in the Lobi store.
My idea would to take a ship we know nothing about and possibly convert it to a new class of ship called Heavy Science Dreadnought. Just as an example I would pick the Hierarchys ships and use it the Lobi store ship. Not much is known about this ship and we could make it something special. We could use another species if we had to (How about a Deferi).
Some ideas I have had with this idea is to make it a science version of a Scimitar. This is making me think of a 4/2 weapons load out. Give it a hanger bay this will at least give players an option that is like the Vesta Class ship that is not a fed. I would like to also give it a faction specific energy type high efficiency Omni-directional beam array (reclaimable). The modifiers would be (Arc) (CrtD) (CrtH). It would be high efficiency because it would only drain 4 weapons power and 10-20% more damage; this might appease the players that dont like faction specific weapons.
So almost every ship that is in Lobi, lockbox, or Zen Store comes with a special console; the console I have in mind is called the Chaos Theory Generator. The CTG would quadruple threat while making the player immune to damage. All damage dealt to the player would either refract back to a random target to damage them or refract the damage back to the player and his team has hull and shield heals. Since the player is immune to damage all abilities and weapons would be offline. The only thing a player would be able to do is pilot the ship. Because of the name of the console I would make it the ability console random as possible. 50/50 chance of it either healing team or refracting damage. Give this console a standard cooldown and a 10 second up time. When the 10 seconds is up, threat would be restored back to normal.
Since tier 6 ships need a trait my idea would be Giving Her All Shes Got. This would give engineer powers a 10% cooldown for every science or hybrid ability used while taking damage with a 5 second between each power. Standard cooldown rules apply.
Race specific drones would be the same except for the damage type. These are the hangar bay pets that come with the ship. These should be the size of a runabout or delta flier. They should come three beam arrays forward and one aft. The special ability would be HYT. And the torpedo would be a Tetryon based like the plasma torp. Except for plasma burn it would be a shield drain. The high yield version is destroyable. The more rare the pet the higher the HYT would get.
Minimum Rank: Vice Admiral
Hull Strength: 34,155 at 50 and 39,600 at 60
Shield Modifier: 1.43
Crew: 150
Weapons: 4 Fore, 2 Aft
Device Slots: 3
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Tactical,
1 Lieutenant Hybrid*, 1 Commander Science, 1 Lieutenant Universal, 1 Lieutenant Engineering
Console Upgrades: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 4 Science
Base Turn Rate: 14 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.17
+10 Power to Auxiliary/+5 Weapons
Subsystem Targeting
Sensor Analysis
Secondary Deflector Slot
Hangar Bay (Race Specific Drones)
Starship Ability Package (Science Vessel)
o Enhanced Particle Generators (+Exotic Damage)
o Advanced Shield Systems (+Shield HP)
o Enhanced Restorative Circuitry (+Healing)
o Reactive Shield Technology (+Shield Regen/Hardness)
o Trait (Giving it all Shes Got)
*Lieutenant Hybrid: This has to be one of the new skill sets. Pilot, Intel, or Command.
Please give me some feed back, support, and change some ideas.
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Buy the tal shiar cruiser if you wanna have a sci/tac hybrid.
Work in progress...Tal Shiar Cruiser turn rate sucks. Cannot get you nose around to fire some science abilites.
They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part.
A 4/2 weapon Sci ship and a Lt.Cmdr Tac boff seat would be interesting. DBBs and Omnis with FAW3 would be pretty potent.
But I'm terms of a ship meh. I'm satisfied with the 30k+ damage my Dauntless produces. It's overkill, and about to get a little more potent with an additional console slot. I'd probably buy a T6 Vesta or Nebula.
The avenue I would take to giving Sci more damage would be a full suite of exotic particle energy weapons. The model for a partgen skill and aux power scaling damage source exists in the emission torp, or embassy consoles.
I'd like to see a general change to make Tac captain buffs no longer effect "all damage", just weapon damage. Let's just give captains a flat boost to all skills in their wheelhouse. So a sci would get say +10 to all sci skills. Makes sense in my head, but probably a terrible idea.
But a Scimitar of science... I don't know. If there ever is one, it better be cross-faction.
I would love to see a 4/2 cross faction also. The idea is to close gaps between factions that don't have a a large selection of science ships.
The idea is to make it OP to make a discussion. I know the ship I made is OP. It is there to throw out some ideas and get people thinking. I agree all ships should have draw backs, and the ship I proposed does need to be balanced.
With or without the mandatory 15 points in pilot :P
I find my presidio is pretty agile for something that large, i have no issues firing off my sci skill on that
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Yes but that ship turns just fine.
And dont forget pilot is being boosted to 30 points soon, so there will be ways to make even the largest space whale turn, and lets not forget that you also use your throttle to turn, drop down to half speed and you'll see yourself turning a lot easier, although my presidio doesn't even need that at full speed
Of course you'll need to sacrifice other Engineer components to hook these up....
Im just gonna leave this here
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tholian_Recluse_Carrier
Maybe something like Recon Science Patrol ship or something...a Science ship built to not only do scientific missions and studies but a ship ready at a moments notice to fight a enemy that can just appear out of nowhere a.k.a. the Iconians/Heralds.
And you have 3 Lt's...one should be a Lt Cmdr...I'm sure the Uni would probably be the most popular choice.
I'm for any good Science ship...especially if the Romulans actually get one!
Ooooo. Where do we get that ship?
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Mix fleet RCS Neutronium with the fleet RCS console that gives resistances. I did that on my T6 warbird and got her a smidge below my old Fleet Mogai's turn rate with RCS Neutroniums. She's got wicked turn now, but still needs work on forward speed.
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Good catch the universal spot should have been the lt command position.
Sorry you don't want to be or have a discusiion about this. I threw out multiple ideas for people to talk about. Some of them have been discussed before others have not. Like I said in the post it is OP for people to talk and trim down or even say what they want more of.
Here is a WILD idea, how about contribute or talk about a post instead being all high and mighty. If you don't like it don't have to post.
Thanks for the comments. I agree that a lt command uni would be the popular choice, but it does make it OP.the turn rate is high for a dread, so we can always call is something else.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9198513
Only drawback is the lack of tactical, but looking at the galaxy-x that seems to be the standard.