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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Poor bird people.
    not their fault they were so tasty

    mmmm chicken fingers
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Avian are extinct... Poor bird people.

    That's what they get for pooping on people's shuttles. :cool:
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Let me give you another factor that's going to heavily play into this; If you're using Beam Overload, you're using the Beam Overload Penetration DOff (Energy Weapons Specialist). Everyone that uses BO uses that. They go hand in hand.

    Now, BO has a 100% CrtH. You're going to get hammered from that. But thanks to the DOff, you're get hammered by the "free" BO 1 with an extra 30-35% shield penetration.

    That's nearly enough to pop you right there, let alone what the other weapons your attacker is using are doing.

    The Double Tap was removed because it was deemed OP, by the Devs no less, back when it didn't crit 100% of the time and it drained weapons power - there was opportunity cost there because it required clever power management; either the use of batteries (long CD), Marion Francis Dulmer (DEM DOff) and using DEM on ships with limited Eng BO abilties, or other tricks to make it work.

    That was opportunity cost; giving up your only Lt Eng slot (and consequently a huge chunk of healing potential) and 1 out of 5 DOffs for a hilariously underpowered ability with a long CD, for the sole reason of using it's DOff, just to have an 8 second window to get both BOs in. Here, there is no opportunity cost.

    I thought this was Star Trek Online, where we're flying massive capital ships, not Starfighters Online where you're snuffed out in the blink of an eye.

    Borticus should play 1 PvP arena match each day after S10 is released and see how he likes being on the receiving end of a vaper's alpha strike. Too bad he has to watch gameplay videos before admitting there is a problem.

    I've said it before. Instead of creating more chaos with new things, test them using some of the best players out there instead of average builds. Also, fixing the non-tactical abilities like acetone beam, photonics shockwave, and other rarely used abilities into usefulness would help.

    You can't come up with the same junk (DPS/resistance/heals) over and over each season without constantly creating unbalanced junk.
  • zobovorzobovor Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    drreverend wrote: »
    The Xindi Insectoid ship sure is neat looking.

    It's also sure is reskinned ... .
    And hellllo Breen raider from 2 (well really 1) year ago !! ;)
  • zobovorzobovor Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lucho80 wrote: »
    You have to love the devs back and forth.

    1) There should be no insta kills, they remove double tap.

    2) They make BO so powerful it kills instantly.

    3) They fix BO so it doesn't insta kill.

    4) They release an OP torp.

    5) They fix said torp.

    6) They release yet another OP torp + SS2/3.

    7) They fix OP torp and fix SS3 although SS3 still packs a punch.

    8) They yet again add double tap kills.



    You forgot : Nerf pets because of BS reason , put power to boost pets in Lockbox .
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    An Insectoid (or Primate) Bridge Officer would have been nice... and when do we actually get to meet an Aquatic or Insectoid in-game?

    Edit: If the five species of the Xindi are indeed complete, might I also ask where the Arboreal starships are? :P
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  • reikontenshireikontenshi Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Personally, I'm excited for the new Xindi ships, but I have concerns:

    1> OK, never mind that the Terrestrial Lockbox said that "Finally, all five Xindi species are united", & then conveniently left out the Arboreal ship. I suspect that Cryptic will be releasing something for the Arboreals as yet another limited-time-only reward, from DOff packs or R&D Packs.

    Although I get WHY they do this, these LTO ships are coming too fast for me to keep up. I've still not recovered financially from the Sheshar R&D Box, & I failed miserably to get a Jem'Hadar Strike Ship, & now, if they do come out with another R&D box event for the Xindi-Arboreals, I'm going to miss out on yet another ship (worse, on a ship that I'll need for my Xindi collection).

    OCD sucks sometimes :P

    2> From a storyline standpoint, isn't anybody other than me bothered by the fact that the Xindi's principle defenders/enforcers (Reptilian) & their technological powerhouses (Aquatics) currently have T5-U ships which will be outclassed by the T6 ships of the less-aggressive Primates & Arboreals? Even the Insectiods ships were supposed to be less-fearsome than Reptilian ships (in "Enterprise", it took Enterprise & Degra's ship working together to defeat a single Reptilian ship, & later on, a single shot from a Reptilian ship destroyed an Insectoid vessel).

    I'm glad that the other Xindi ships are being brought out, but I think the Repilians & the Aquatics got the short end of the stick on this one.
  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hmmmm...
    ...
    amphibious ships t5-fu....
    hmmm...
    terrestial ships t6-f....
    hmmmm.....


    not even worth a lol or facepalm :rolleyes:
  • kirksfavoritesonkirksfavoriteson Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The lockbox has some interesting things in it, for sure, but I confess, I was very much hoping for an Arboreal or (dare I hope?) an Insectoid bridge officer to add to my ship crew(s) alongside my Xindi-Reptilian.

    Ah, well, maybe next time. Thanks for the preview!
  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    will the second BO proc off [over] procs? Because that would make me buy this trait for my galaxy....
  • omega6theta1omega6theta1 Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    wardcalis wrote: »
    can either of these xindi ships use the aquatic frigates?

    Good Question, I'd like to know this also..... Or will there be a new Frigate available to these ships?
  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    So many tears in a thread about new things.
  • kianazerokianazero Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    A Malon Battlecruiser? YES PLEASE!

    That'll make an awesome looking "Well Armed Tuffli Class" kind of ship for a Mercenary Captain

    What? I do things like that >.>

    My Liberated Borg flies the APU Cruiser simply for the geometric ship style.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    They used a Giraffe skull for the extinct Xindi "Avian."

    A new low for Star Trek.

    Insectoids look interesting.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The lockbox has some interesting things in it, for sure, but I confess, I was very much hoping for an Arboreal or (dare I hope?) an Insectoid bridge officer to add to my ship crew(s) alongside my Xindi-Reptilian.
    This was my hope as well. We've already met an Xindi Primate in one of the missions, and we know they can easily be created in the Alien Generator (yet a specific one would have been nice); as per an Insectoid, they've managed to do the Tholian justice, so it's not out of their (Cryptic's) capability.
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  • ak255ak255 Member Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    So I guess nothing for us players that probably spent a fortune on the previous Xindi ships, huh? Well that's not surprising from Cryptic to not give a damn about players have previous ships. Thanks for once again making powerful ships obsolete with no compromise!!
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ak255 wrote: »
    So I guess nothing for us players that probably spent a fortune on the previous Xindi ships, huh? Well that's not surprising from Cryptic to not give a damn about players have previous ships. Thanks for once again making powerful ships obsolete with no compromise!!

    Well I wouldn't say they're "obsolete" by any stretch of the mind. They're still fully functional and quite powerful.

    They're just not the best anymore. That's what happens with every release in STO.

    That's called Power Creep, and the Devs appear to have no plans to curb it or control it.
  • tribblenationtribblenation Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Um, T5 ships in the 'new' lockbox? I thought T6 was the future...and what is the deal with making you pay extra to upgrade it to T5-U?:confused:
  • jake477jake477 Member Posts: 527 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The Primate Uniforms look great for designing a true Star Trek DS9 Romulan Uniform. Since you guys have not included one yet.

    As for the Plasmic Biomatter, I like it along with the glowy Xindi armor.

    Perfect for stalking the halls of the new Sphere and trashing the Heralds.

    As for ships....not interested, the job you did on the New DD T6 was so good I can't keep my hands off of it.
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  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    They used a Giraffe skull for the extinct Xindi "Avian."

    A new low for Star Trek.

    Insectoids look interesting.


    I know right? Nothing says avian like a giraffe.

    A broader niggle i have with the lockbox names is calling the 1st one amphibious. The xindi aquatics were clearly water locked, and as for the reptilians? Their anatomy looked wholly terrestrial.

    I am an animal science student though so Im jprobably just being pedantic.

    That aside, awesome looking swag for this box.
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  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I wonder what the drop rate will be for these BOff abilities. Will they be rare enough that they won't be worth deliberately opening lockboxes in the hopes of getting these or would they be often enough that they'll be dirt cheap in the Exchange?

    BOff abilities in lockboxes may become a big cash cow for Cryptic, so I understand why they'll be doing it. It won't be that much fun for us trying to get them though.

    That said, the Kemocite-Laced Weaponry may be good for torpedo builds (it always procs on non-energy weapons right?). Depending on how good it is, I may want it, but I won't gamble on lockboxes for it. I'll find it on the exchange when prices mellow down.

    Will the Plasma Bio Torpedo resemble the large plasma balls the Unimatrix ships spawn? Are they modified by particle generators and torpedo consoles?
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Um, T5 ships in the 'new' lockbox?
    The newer Xindi ships will be T6. It says so on the article. It's only the previous ones (Aquatic & Reptilian) that will unfortunately remain at T5/T5U
    dave18193 wrote: »
    I know right? Nothing says avian like a giraffe.
    It was just a skull, in a fictional universe. It can look however they want it to look. :P
    dave18193 wrote: »
    A broader niggle i have with the lockbox names is calling the 1st one amphibious. The xindi aquatics were clearly water locked, and as for the reptilians? Their anatomy looked wholly terrestrial.
    Heh, pedantic or not, it's a bit... daft of them. Reptilians have nothing to do with being Amphibious. Cryptic should have gone (simply) with Xindi Alpha Lock Box and then Xindi Beta Lock Box. If they do a third one, then Xindi Charlie Lock Box, Xindi Delta Lock Box, Xindi Echo Lock Box (etc)
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  • grandpadxxgrandpadxx Member Posts: 342
    edited April 2015
    An other " Kick " for the PvP Comunitiy. Thx Guys. :(
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    grandpadxx wrote: »
    An other " Kick " for the PvP Comunitiy. Thx Guys. :(
    What's that?

    This sounds like pretty interesting stuff to me. :D
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  • grandpadxxgrandpadxx Member Posts: 342
    edited April 2015

    Like this..

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    You know what i meen. ;)


    Regarts
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    People still PvP? Who knew?
  • sharpie65sharpie65 Member Posts: 679 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Regarding the "double tap" on the Superweapon Ingenuity trait: It can only happen once every 30 seconds, and even with 3 purple energy weapons BO Pen doffs, it's still only a 90% chance of activating the extra penetration. Meaning it can happen quite often, but won't be certain...Any more than 3 and a( you're an idiot for spending that much or b) you don't care for any sort of balance in PvP and want to be the ultimate best.

    Or c) and you're an absolute idiot for wanting to do that much crit without working your way through the shields first.
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  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Yay, another lockbox to waste away money while trying to get those ships, yet get nothing but duty officer packs and Lobi.

    Yet another lockbox that I'll just throw away as soon as I get it.

    Just put the ships in the c-store, and stop with the box TRIBBLE. Last lockbox ship I have tried for was the Temporal ships. I have opened almost 100 of them, and gotten only the Aeon shuttle. A shuttle I didn't even really want.
    These boxes are just another thing for those rich kids to waste away their money on.
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Another lockbox for people with more money than sense
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