now, I'm sure we can also find many examples of Bullet-point engineering as well...
and wouldn't have to look too terribly far in the past-which may also explain the Lag/graphics issue...
I guess that term fits perfectly. As I was reading the definition... Well STO did fit perfectly. I can make a lot of examples, but we all know them after five years.
Such skills as what you have are being wasted away and dulled playing pure PvE.
Sadly it's what works best for me right now. Just ask Agu, I have to up and afk at a moments notice for random amounts of time. If that happens in a PvP match I would completely TRIBBLE over the entire team. One day though, hopefully.
Also I thought everyone agreed there would be a word count maximum on Beameddown's posts? What happened to that?
It is quite sad really all you guys talk about pvp like this your a newer generation, with the likes of old school pvp I was in a 3 hour match with TSI nail biting pvp, as we counteracted all our strikes and tactics. we had to have a pee break in middle lol! (5 mins tops). IMO those matches shows the skill more than p2w clicking!
Another quality we had with TSI! was the respect when we met in queues we instantly changed our builds to comply with fair game! asked if ready, thanked for game even though bitter rivals! people in other fleets recognised we never ran cheese and saw the skill in pvp fleets back then.
We lost the PVP etiquette season 5, pandas stopped this when everyone started pulling TRIBBLE on us! cheese pandas was made to show the difference - people raged when we did this, brought it on the forums within a day.
I played pvp in season 10 the over day and ran into queues with a few panda buddies (just for lols we decided to roll season 8 builds as we are not in the current meta-game), the sad state of the game shows lack of skill, the score on one game in pug queueing:15 - 2 considering it was 3 pandas, it is not a team but we have talent ingrained in us to run as a team. For example when hobos called us out and said we cant play the game anymore and challenged us to hobos vs sad pandas, we came back 1 week learnt the current metagame and beat them of their perch.
The boiled down truth, the respect, the rivalry between fleets is gone, sto has suffered so much now, we have tried getting new blood in the pvp community the trouble is learning the meta of today's game ie rep, gear, skilltree, learning when to use skills. when people ask for help they don't get it.
Lists go on for ages here guys, I think to recoup it! classic pvp is probably best idea! no clicky back to ships and weapons!
We had epic matches with pratically every single premade here on STO and i say thank you guys for those moments . We won and we lost, we did good and we did bad, we had great fun and we had bad moments, but if there is a match i remember very well was one against 58. Geschwader, almost 1 year ago. Maybe teuteburg will remember that match, it was one of that type of matches "3-2-1 nuke1, nuke2 => kill" both sides, with a lot of spike heals and fast reflexes. They had stun scis with a dedicated healer, instead we had gravigen scis and a stun, no dedicated healers, both sides with a bo3 escort: wow what a match gentlemen, we countered them and they countered us, we did a kill and then they did a kill, it was an high level ping pong to be honest Idk how long it lasted that match, maybe 1h and something more!!! They were a bit faster than us on the kills and had a little more heals, so they won 15-12 or 15-13 i dont remember well honestly, but maann, i was never so happy to have lost, because it was really fun and challenging!
I miss those matches, clean and without bs and, especially, LAG :P
We lost the PVP etiquette season 5, pandas stopped this when everyone started pulling TRIBBLE on us! cheese pandas was made to show the difference - people raged when we did this, brought it on the forums within a day.
I played pvp in season 10 the over day and ran into queues with a few panda buddies (just for lols we decided to roll season 8 builds as we are not in the current meta-game), the sad state of the game shows lack of skill, the score on one game in pug queueing:15 - 2 considering it was 3 pandas, it is not a team but we have talent ingrained in us to run as a team. For example when hobos called us out and said we cant play the game anymore and challenged us to hobos vs sad pandas, we came back 1 week learnt the current metagame and beat them of their perch.
Other pandas was better, but you monkeys never respected other pvprs, all time you made fun or insulted your oponents.
It is quite sad really all you guys talk about pvp like this your a newer generation, with the likes of old school pvp I was in a 3 hour match with TSI nail biting pvp, as we counteracted all our strikes and tactics. we had to have a pee break in middle lol! (5 mins tops). IMO those matches shows the skill more than p2w clicking!
Another quality we had with TSI! was the respect when we met in queues we instantly changed our builds to comply with fair game! asked if ready, thanked for game even though bitter rivals! people in other fleets recognised we never ran cheese and saw the skill in pvp fleets back then.
We lost the PVP etiquette season 5, pandas stopped this when everyone started pulling TRIBBLE on us! cheese pandas was made to show the difference - people raged when we did this, brought it on the forums within a day.
I played pvp in season 10 the over day and ran into queues with a few panda buddies (just for lols we decided to roll season 8 builds as we are not in the current meta-game), the sad state of the game shows lack of skill, the score on one game in pug queueing:15 - 2 considering it was 3 pandas, it is not a team but we have talent ingrained in us to run as a team. For example when hobos called us out and said we cant play the game anymore and challenged us to hobos vs sad pandas, we came back 1 week learnt the current metagame and beat them of their perch.
The boiled down truth, the respect, the rivalry between fleets is gone, sto has suffered so much now, we have tried getting new blood in the pvp community the trouble is learning the meta of today's game ie rep, gear, skilltree, learning when to use skills. when people ask for help they don't get it.
Lists go on for ages here guys, I think to recoup it! classic pvp is probably best idea! no clicky back to ships and weapons!
THIS so much and ten times over. Just give me a server roll back and I'll bring back all the TSI guys until Era says haxcellent!
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
Even with the cheese it was fair game for both teams to employ which still gave a somewhat level playing field.
Not really, you still had to buy with real money gear, ships, skills etc and not to mention grind like a madman for the next 3 months to be competitive.
In the End It's really the Devs who never balanced OP gear, items and abilities So once cheese was discovered and used people caught on it became rampant.
My fault? How daare ye?! :eek:
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
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I guess that term fits perfectly. As I was reading the definition... Well STO did fit perfectly. I can make a lot of examples, but we all know them after five years.
+1 for truth.
Haha, make a signature...oh wait they haven't given that back to you yet for who knows what reason...
Sadly it's what works best for me right now. Just ask Agu, I have to up and afk at a moments notice for random amounts of time. If that happens in a PvP match I would completely TRIBBLE over the entire team. One day though, hopefully.
Also I thought everyone agreed there would be a word count maximum on Beameddown's posts? What happened to that?
We need a tldr basically.
Beameddown, for wanting us to read his ridonkulous posts. lol, just playing around.
+1
Agree with that.. .
Cryptic destroy PvP.. and we can't do anything about it.
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Another quality we had with TSI! was the respect when we met in queues we instantly changed our builds to comply with fair game! asked if ready, thanked for game even though bitter rivals! people in other fleets recognised we never ran cheese and saw the skill in pvp fleets back then.
We lost the PVP etiquette season 5, pandas stopped this when everyone started pulling TRIBBLE on us! cheese pandas was made to show the difference - people raged when we did this, brought it on the forums within a day.
I played pvp in season 10 the over day and ran into queues with a few panda buddies (just for lols we decided to roll season 8 builds as we are not in the current meta-game), the sad state of the game shows lack of skill, the score on one game in pug queueing:15 - 2 considering it was 3 pandas, it is not a team but we have talent ingrained in us to run as a team. For example when hobos called us out and said we cant play the game anymore and challenged us to hobos vs sad pandas, we came back 1 week learnt the current metagame and beat them of their perch.
The boiled down truth, the respect, the rivalry between fleets is gone, sto has suffered so much now, we have tried getting new blood in the pvp community the trouble is learning the meta of today's game ie rep, gear, skilltree, learning when to use skills. when people ask for help they don't get it.
Lists go on for ages here guys, I think to recoup it! classic pvp is probably best idea! no clicky back to ships and weapons!
and...
Devs have openly admitted that they hate PvP and PvP community in this game.
Further more, they are incompetent to fix core engine bugs.
and...
They have perverted Star Trek so much that at the core of it is the GREED, GRIND and instant gratification.
Was enough for me to quit STO for good and even for the better.
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I miss those matches, clean and without bs and, especially, LAG :P
Other pandas was better, but you monkeys never respected other pvprs, all time you made fun or insulted your oponents.
anybody who ever took monkey's trash talk seriously was doing it wrong
THIS so much and ten times over. Just give me a server roll back and I'll bring back all the TSI guys until Era says haxcellent!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
And this is bad how?
I never said anything against that. My opinion is there could be way more epic matches if a server rollback or closer to 1.2 was adopted.
Not really, you still had to buy with real money gear, ships, skills etc and not to mention grind like a madman for the next 3 months to be competitive.
My fault? How daare ye?! :eek:
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!