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Samsar and Dyson Destroyer consoles From the c-store?
willamsheridan
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I know that those ships were available only during the events or for high cost from the Lobi store.
Thats why i am not talking about the ships but only about the consoles.
The Consoles are part of 4-piece Sets, so anyone who had the luck, the chance to participate in the Event could get that set but anyone else will probably never get a chance to get the full set. I am thinking about the Delta Recruits, especially the new Players who just missed the Anniversary Event. They still can get the Command cruisers but not the Full set.
If they were single consoles, without being part of a Set i wouldn´t care but now you can buy the ship Bundle for around 5000 Zen but still have only 3/4 of the set?
So i think those Consoles should be available from the c-store (not lobi store, its not some salvaged Alien Tech the Ferengi stole) for maybe 300-1000 Zen, so everyone can get the full sets. Even someone who would never buy a ship for 600- 800 Lobi could consider to buy that console to get the full set. So Cryptic makes money because instead of 10 People who would never invest 600-800 Lobi they have maybe 3-4 of those 10 who buy the console. And there are probably some Players who would only buy the Command Cruiser Bundle if they could get the full set which would be possible then
And, btw, i think that would be a good idea for the other consoles in the Lobi store too, instead of 200 Lobi (something that many Players wouldn't pay because they don´t have that manyLobi or don´t buy Keys and open Lockboxes) i think they would sell much better if they would cost around 500-1000Zen. I know i would buy them.
Thats why i am not talking about the ships but only about the consoles.
The Consoles are part of 4-piece Sets, so anyone who had the luck, the chance to participate in the Event could get that set but anyone else will probably never get a chance to get the full set. I am thinking about the Delta Recruits, especially the new Players who just missed the Anniversary Event. They still can get the Command cruisers but not the Full set.
If they were single consoles, without being part of a Set i wouldn´t care but now you can buy the ship Bundle for around 5000 Zen but still have only 3/4 of the set?
So i think those Consoles should be available from the c-store (not lobi store, its not some salvaged Alien Tech the Ferengi stole) for maybe 300-1000 Zen, so everyone can get the full sets. Even someone who would never buy a ship for 600- 800 Lobi could consider to buy that console to get the full set. So Cryptic makes money because instead of 10 People who would never invest 600-800 Lobi they have maybe 3-4 of those 10 who buy the console. And there are probably some Players who would only buy the Command Cruiser Bundle if they could get the full set which would be possible then
And, btw, i think that would be a good idea for the other consoles in the Lobi store too, instead of 200 Lobi (something that many Players wouldn't pay because they don´t have that manyLobi or don´t buy Keys and open Lockboxes) i think they would sell much better if they would cost around 500-1000Zen. I know i would buy them.
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Another thought I had was price it based on investment in the Command ship pack itself. If a pack was purchased, the player can get the console for between 300-500 zen and those who only bought one variant can get it for 750. But in all honesty, in a perfect world if you buy the complete Command Ship pack you should be getting ALL of its components not 95% of them.
Either way, this is a current negative to the Delta Recruits campaign as these alts can't have a complete 4 piece console set as it stands right now.
Good post mate.
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It kind of sucks that the free ships were all given away before the Delta Recruitment Event. My new Fed could really use that Samsar Console, but now I have no way of getting him one.
I would purchase one from the C-Store in a heartbeat. I wouldn't buy keys to get Lobi for it, but I would absolutely buy it as a straight Zen Purchase.
All it takes is a handful of people to go the Lobi route to make up for dozens who would go the 500 zen route...in the end it's more profitable and easier just to toss it on the Lobi store...besides when is the last time you've seen them sell individual equipment items on the C-store other than Tribbles?
I completely agree. I really like the Command Ships. I bought the whole big'ol bundle (9 ships). I ran the grind on 16 characters during the anniversary, so they could have access to the four-piece set. Great. I never had intent to make any more characters.
But now Delta Recruitment has come along, and my new DRs won't have the Samsar console, and no way to get it.
I don't have a problem with Cryptic tying a multi-piece set across multiple sources. I do have a problem with one or more of those sources being limited-timed items with no alternate path to acquire them outside their timegate.
Cryptic, please offer these special set pieces from alternate sources (lobi, c-store, etc.). Thanks.
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Having a grind ship console be a part of a Zen ship console set was dumb enough in the first place, the fact that the set for ships that cost 3k/6k/12k Zen can't be completed because the ship that has the 4-th console is unavailible is just obscene.
Command Bundle exclusive - Includes 4th Special Console and Warp Core (and Singularity Core for Romulans) free.
Dyson Bundle exclusive - Includes Solanae Secondary Deflector and Warp Core (and Singularity Core for Romulans) free.
Those that do not own the bundle have to fork over 2000 Zen for the Dyson Mini-Bundle or Command Mini-Bundle, which only contain the Warp/Singularity Core and Console (Command) or 2ndary Deflector (Dyson).
Existing ship bundle owners are grandfathered in; just have to reclaim the ship bundle pack.
I would fully support this.
If they add the consoles to the Zen store they should be per character purchases, like Borg/Ferasan/Catian Boffs, ect...
In my opinion cryptic could make sooo (yes 3 "o") much more money if they put the ships in the c-store for the regular price instead of puttin them in the hands of some Ferengi. If i look for somethin in the Lobi store i search for weapons because they don´t cost me as much (4 weapons or 1 console).
I just can talk about me here but this is a List of ships i would have bought from the c-store if they were there for the regular 2000-2500 Zen: Galor, the Jem hadar Bug and Strike Ship, Jem Hadar Escort and Jem Hadar Dreanought Carrier, the Xindi ships, the 3 Elachi ships, theTholian ships, the Three Voth ships, the Hazari Destroyer. I think iwould have bought 90% of all ships that are now in the Lobi store (of course with the T6 ships i wouldn´t buy the T5s anymore but wait until there are similar or equal T6 Versions).
And it would be great (but a bit too much to ask all at once, i know) if Lobi unlocks are account wide (Weapons and Uniforms, no matter if bought from the Lobi store or via exchange). I know players who have dozens of Toons and to pay 150 Lobi per uniform for each character seems a bit much (even if you just have 4-5 Toons)
that is a good sentiment
I would rather see the ship in the cstore and not in the lobi store
lobi is just too much
Its a nice idea... a bit to nice perhaps
This coming from a guy that didnt buy a command bundle cause of det 4th console problem haba
So i wish it was c store as well
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You'd be wasting money & you said yourself you won't buy T5 ships now that T6 are out.
Advanced Obelisk has the console
These ships are considered premium & exclusive, putting them in the Cstore would ruin keys sales & current owners exclusivity, leading to a revenue loss.
Some Lobi items would be nice as account unlocks. This might actually increase key sales but Cryptic may discotitnue the Lobi event then. I'd settle for more Lobi items being BoE versus BoP.
I´d buy the Dyson ships just for the looks if the price was reasonable. Of course i won´t buy all those old T5s now, that should be obvious, but there are still new T6 Lobi ships that i would buy and i would HAVE bought the old ones if they had put them in the c-store right away. And there are still ships i´d buy for the looks. The Galor for example or the Voth ships. i have no problem with "wating money" if i get something i like for a good Price. 800 Lobi isn´t reasonable and not good
but soon no one will buy the old T5s anymore because then they will be outdated. Not yet but soon.
Also i´d buy a lot of consoles and the remaining weapons, uniforms... if they were c-store items
Advanced is a Lobi ship. the Classic Obelisk we got in the game doesn´t have the console, and as far as i know, is not upgradeable. So at first the gave us the console during the mission and after that took it away to put it in an overpriced Lobi ship
Really? Do you think that? Maybe the part about the exclusivity is right because anyone who has enough money can already get the ships from the exchange. Most players not. But i think a benefit for the majority of the players is better than an exclusive feeling for afew Players while they are flying around in those ships.
And i also believe that they would make far more profit by putting them in the c-store because its available for everyone and many Players who never thought about spending so many Lobi will probably think about spending some Zen for those ships So they would make less money PER ship but sell more ships and its very likely that they will,get more money
But even if we are not talking about the normal Lobi ships here anymore: The Event and featured Mission Ships should be in the C-store not in the Lobi store. The cheap Obelisk is c-store, the Good one Lobi? why?
And why prevent all Players who, for whatever reasons, couldn´t participate in the Events, get their hands on the Ships or Sets if they are willing to pay (just not the high Lobi Prices)?
Any Delta recruit, any Player with several chars has to pay 800 Lobi per Char (if we get the Samsar in the Lobi store)or will never get the chance to get a full Dyson or Command set.
So? Seriously(no, not really:cool:
Honestly, most of the Lobi items are not worth the price they cost. They would be if they were accountwide. C-store items are accountwide so why not Lobi