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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I remember wanting some Klingon ship in the Z Store and being discouraged by how much Dilithium it would take to get it. At the time the exchange Rate was 350 Dilthium for 1 Zen.

    Hasn't been anything like the iconic T6 ships in the Z Store in awhile. Since lots of people with lots of Dilithium want these, it makes sense Zen is currently more valuable than Dilthium. I am thinking it will level off at about 200:1 or so in about a week and stay right around that for awhile.

    Bought Zen last week at 185:1 and sold them at 200:1. That was enjoyable.
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  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    battykoda0 wrote: »
    Don't trade any dilithium. They are trading that high because people are buying Zen that high. Withhold it. It will drop when no one buys for these prices. It's up 50 points. Just say NO.

    that just say no part.............I had Doc Brown voice in my head
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I remember wanting some Klingon ship in the Z Store and being discouraged by how much Dilithium it would take to get it. At the time the exchange Rate was 350 Dilthium for 1 Zen.

    Hasn't been anything like the iconic T6 ships in the Z Store in awhile. Since lots of people with lots of Dilithium want these, it makes sense Zen is currently more valuable than Dilthium. I am thinking it will level off at about 200:1 or so in about a week and stay right around that for awhile.

    Bought Zen last week at 185:1 and sold them at 200:1. That was enjoyable.

    I had some at 181 and sold at 220....set it at 220 for the hell of it, not really expecting it to sell...but it did.

    If only I didn't spend 3k zen on a new cruiser a few weeks back, I wouldve made hell of a lot more. BUt then again, I don't really care all that much, I have enough dil to do what I need to do and I don't really want to spend any Z at the moment.
  • kittykaboomboomkittykaboomboom Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    funniest part is; 2 years ago.
    Co's exchange had just hit 200Q/zen and people were complaining till it was pointed out STO was at 350/zen.

    Now CO has weekly sales, this week ;keys while on a dbl xp weekend and a new lockbox. exchange was at 490Q/zen this morning. Not game to look at it this afternoon
  • frontline2042frontline2042 Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hope the market holds that price for 10 more hours so I can cash in. Daddy needs to pay for some upgrades.
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  • psyloafpsyloaf Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    cidjack wrote: »
    I find this wonderful, as a zen seller myself, my zen is now worth more dil then before!

    This :D

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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Woooweee, here I am with some 2.7mill dilithium, just a waiting to trade in but, not at these prices.

    Never gonna happen!
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,450 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The great player-driven economy... brought to you by the online market manipulators :)
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  • shockwave85shockwave85 Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Damn, I converted some dil to Zen before the CC event, then flipped it back over when people started cashing out the event. I only made a few points though, I should've held onto it!
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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Dang, I should have dumped all my dil the instant I saw the Galaxy announcement when it was 190. But I didn't because even 190 seemed pretty damn high compared to just a few weeks ago when it was like 168. Lordy. What the hell happened to this game.
    The game desperately needs big new dil sinks

    This. "Cryptic can't do anything about the rate" my left foot.
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  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    more dilithium sink incoming anyway. With the new story line, they'll have new Iconican rep gear which will probably cost 32k per item. So plenty of places to spend the bling
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    deokkent wrote: »
    This is what's really surprising to me... I see dil sinks everywhere. Why in the world is that rate going up? I can't believe that pack is selling so well.
    What you see are small sinks: Crafting, etc - and most people who are serious about Crafting have learned how to do it cheaply. Big sinks, like Fleets, sucked up millions. We have not had one of those in a long time.

    And keep in mind we just came off of a CE Event which dumped 50k+ onto people - I know someone who did it on 15 characters. There is a lot of Dilithium in the system right now because of the Events - and now we have this new Recruit system which is given people even more.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    And plus we have the most wanted ship in the history of STO just added to the C Store AND it's on sale this weekend only.
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Supply and demand.

    Makes perfect sense. And in this case entirely predictable. I laid in zen back at 170-180 knowing that dili would be dropping in value after the CE event. Tens of thousands of people with alts suddenly getting tens of thousands of dili? Had to go somewhere...
  • chilleechillee Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I think I'll sell 5000 zen shortly.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    And speaking of Fleets as Dil sinks, don't forget those Delta Recruits with their Fleet only Dil is going to be easing up that sink for Fleets still progressing - so even more Dil is going to be out there since they won't have to use their real Dil. Wheeeeee!
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    aureleus wrote: »
    In just the last few hours the Dilithium Exchange has jumped from the low 200s to now as of typing this to the mid 230s and continues to rise.


    Anyone else agree that this is a bit absurd ? I mean hell even with the dil per kill that the Delta Recruits have for the event, they don't get enough per kill to mess with the pricing like this, 1-2 dil per kill lolz.

    Looks like I'll be holding on to my Dilithium for awhile :/.

    WTF are ppl smoking to think these prices are justified ? o.O.

    Let's make this easy. Go read Macroeconomics for Dummies, and then come back after you can answer your own question.
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  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    starswordc wrote: »
    Let's make this easy. Go read Macroeconomics for Dummies, and then come back after you can answer your own question.

    If you believe this artificial economic system isn't able to be influenced by the developers and isn't being influenced by the game comapany at will you are naive at best.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    What mechanism do you think they use to influence it?

    I think they're using Iconian Gateways.
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I think they're using Iconian Gateways.

    Very good one :D:D:D
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Welcome to the good'ol days when dilithium to zen was at the 280+ rates...

    Not absurd... Just economics at its best...

    It'll go up more than what it is... :)

    Cheers,

    I remember when it was in the 400's this is nothing. Of course it will prevent me from turning dilithium to zen for a while.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    If you believe this artificial economic system isn't able to be influenced by the developers and isn't being influenced by the game comapany at will you are naive at best.

    Well, obviously it's being influenced by the developers. :rolleyes:

    It's not rocket science. They just did a Crystalline Entity event, which pushes a glut of dilithium into the system. Greater supply of dil, same supply of zen, zen price rises. Then they release a three-pack of ships that people have been asking for for literally years, and put out incentives to make more toons, which for silver players (maybe golds, too) means buying character slots and sometimes species, meaning people want zen to pay for all these new goodies. Greater demand for zen, zen price rises.

    Macroeconomics in action, ladies and germs.
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  • frontline2042frontline2042 Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I remember when it was in the 400's this is nothing. Of course it will prevent me from turning dilithium to zen for a while.

    I miss those days. But then again I don't buy Zen with D, I buy D with Zen. So I'm ecstatic about the jump. 180 felt too low for me. Going to go home and drop 2k Zen on dilithium
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  • minababeminababe Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    If you believe this artificial economic system isn't able to be influenced by the developers and isn't being influenced by the game comapany at will you are naive at best.

    It's influenced, just not in the way you're trying to suggest.
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