What Lag? [video]

ezriryan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at8aKBPZ79Y

Good evening Captains,

Basically what all 75k+ Premade runs look like..
Not quite as bad in lower runs, but still noticeable.
Lag doesnt really translate well to a Video as the viewer doesnt know what is being pressed and expected, but the rubberbanding and even the standstill should be pretty obvious...


(just making sure):
Pingplotter plots a 100ms, ingame 150 according to netgraph
Its not only my Computer, because everyone was experiencing the issue.
And its not only a european problem, as players from the states experience it too...

best regards
RyanSTO

dylantrinidy

they cant help it if "they players love them so much"

warmaker001b

The lag is merely a reporting bug!:D

jjdez

NPC AI can't be made better, so this is the new difficulty setting automatically implemented should one player in a match reach a certain DPS.

eldarion79

Just like to ask, what method of time travel did you use to come back from May 22?

nandospc

Eh, i know the feel mate, that's basically the lag i'm experiencing since DR launch in every ISA or space map. I hope in a fix soon, because i want to play space content as well lol
So, cryptic, see this video and try to understand that this problem affect EVERYONE in your game

saross

Sadly a lot of this lag seems to just be those new traits that stack...

seaofsorrows

Don't worry, I'm sure there is a fix coming soon..

By 'Fix' I mean a new ship bundle in the C-Store.

snipey47a

That's pretty much the worst I've ever seen it... and thats 2 months from now :-P

nandospc

Btw ryan, i tweeted this to trendy, ricossa and borticus, hope they will see and investigate

sf911

+1

I really hope something will be done to fix the lag plaguing STFs.

I have also noticed it's noticeably worse on higher dps runs. Maybe there are problems with the high # of stacking abilities/traits (typical of such teams) conflicting? I don't know.

All I know is that this lag greatly limits my enjoyment of the game and a fix would be very appreciated.

johnsteward

Its really bad for several month now. As it gets worse the more high dps guys are in one mission its propably related to a power or several thats producing the lags.

spaceeagle20

Same here …
However , in my experience, it seems that Borg space and fleet alerts are affected so.… I wouldn't be so sure it's the amount of abilities new and old stacking since in a fleet alert not everyone is a 50-60 lvl player with lots of powers and abilities.
On the other hand, aside from graphic issues , I don't remember lagging in Viscous Cycle .

peterconnorfirst

sf911 wrote: »

Maybe there are problems with the high # of stacking abilities/traits (typical of such teams) conflicting? I don't know.

And probably star ship traits for that matter, perhaps even only some discrete ones. It can’t be that I‘m able to run a dozen ground pve without the slightest lag just to end up in a slideshow in next ISA.

spaceeagle20 wrote: »

I don't remember lagging in Viscous Cycle.

And right, even though being more graphical intense never any lags for me in VCE as well.

jaymclaughlin

We actually did a run with no traits at all, and secondary specialisation switched to commando

The lag was noticeably better, but was still there

alex284

I've seen a lot of this in CSA too. KSA can be laggy as well, especially when it comes to rubber banding. I gave up on Bug Hunt a long time ago.

Pugs, premades, whatever, it's happening all over. Not as bad as during the year-5 event, though, when I came to a complete standstill in ISA right as I hit the first cube and didn't move again until the very end. Parsed 90-some DPS! A new record!

sf911

Did a few ISA runs with the DPS channels this morning and it's unplayable.
Impossible to benchmark youf DPS right now...or even to have fun. ISA runs are 100% broken ATM for me.
I hope that this problem is taken seriously and a fix for STF runs is found.

sunfrancks

The Crystalline event can get pretty bad, as well. Also, the ability lag can get horrible at times....

jarvisandalfred

If swapping out of some starship traits makes it better, and running at the right time makes it completely fine (even if your ship's normal)... is there possibly some starship trait that puts the server under an exceptional load? (not that we would know this, but just something for Cryptic to look for).

jaymclaughlin

jarvisandalfred wrote: »

If swapping out of some starship traits makes it better, and running at the right time makes it completely fine (even if your ship's normal)... is there possibly some starship trait that puts the server under an exceptional load? (not that we would know this, but just something for Cryptic to look for).

Well the only thing we didn't unslot was intel, and like I said before... the lag was better, but was still there by about half way through

I think the problem is cumulative due to the amount of stacking abilities and buffs increasing the server load.

bumperthumper

I love the juxtaposition of the BG music. On your next lag vid, you may wanna think about using Stuck In The Middle With You - Stealers Wheel.

I haven't run any STFs lately, but the crystalline event's lag almost got me popped a few times, due to the tray's lag. Not much rubberbanding, but still not a good thing. I'm gonna go ahead and chalk this up to traits, like others have said.

sf911

I really hope the devs will acknowledge the issue and look into it.
By now it's obvious that it's not merely a problem with certain players' ISPs....

jasonl21

Umm yeah, we know there is lag in STFs, pugs or otherwise. Enough evidence has been shown in the past. There really was no need to create another thread. :rolleyes:

spencerb96

jaymclaughlin wrote: »

We actually did a run with no traits at all, and secondary specialisation switched to commando

The lag was noticeably better, but was still there

Tested a few times over the last few weeks, quite a huge difference lag wise going in with all starship traits/ pilot tree vs no starship traits and no pilot tree. Hopefully they find the exact cause of the issue and resolve it soon, makes it quite frustrating to do Space PvE Queues.

nandospc

spencerb96 wrote: »

Hopefully they find the exact cause of the issue and resolve it soon, makes it quite frustrating to do Space PvE Queues.

^^Exactly^^

sf911

Here's a thread/bug report pointing to one of the possible causes (as suspected/suggested by others too): http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1406991

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holofrog

deokkent wrote: »

I think someone needs to improve their computer performance.

I think Cryptic needs to improve their server performance.

Look at the timer in the end, that doesn't look like an issue caused by our computers..... .

nh3rd

It isn't the computers, it's something internal to cryptic's servers. Sometimes it can be random at lowpop (pacific rim hours) but it is definitely unplayable at highpop. :rolleyes:

This issue needs addressing please.

paxdawn

They need to fix this in order for us to go back to our playing habits and buying habits.

Otherwise, it is hard to sell Astika for Supremacy which requires lobi crystals, hard to sell Anchored trait, which is a lockbox trait. It will be hard to sell cstore T6 and any other new ship since we wont know the potential if the ship unless all this lag is fixed.

nandospc

deokkent wrote: »

I am having no issues. Maybe it's your computers or someone in the channels poisoning the well.

I think someone needs to improve their computer performance.

No. I have people in fleet and in friend list on STO with high end PCs with optical fiber or high end adsl connection and still rubberband and lag like described in this thread. The problem is not the client performance, it's something in server code/network/whatever it is idk