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Suggestion - Tone down the Borg STFs How's a Player supposed to get BNPs!
borgified007
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Dammit Cryptic
How is a person supposed to get the entry level borg gear that requires borg neural processors?
Seriously man this is pathetic. 2 out of 7 runs ICA where the (required) optionals (is there even such an animal, only in STO) were not failedl.... got the BNPs. Of course this is on characters that already have all the borg gear but was seeing what I could do in the queue.
Khitomer Vortex, umm slightly better but still probes have way too much health.
So hows an up and coming young captain supposed to even get the Borg Gear, to say nothing of soon to come Delta Recruits. Borg ground, forget it TRIBBLE.... So what other option is there for borg nerual processors? I guess I could play the lottery and pray I get one as a rep project reward.
Damn man before Delta Rising this game was fun. Now it's painful. There is no fun in failing due to (required) optionals.
How is a person supposed to get the entry level borg gear that requires borg neural processors?
Seriously man this is pathetic. 2 out of 7 runs ICA where the (required) optionals (is there even such an animal, only in STO) were not failedl.... got the BNPs. Of course this is on characters that already have all the borg gear but was seeing what I could do in the queue.
Khitomer Vortex, umm slightly better but still probes have way too much health.
So hows an up and coming young captain supposed to even get the Borg Gear, to say nothing of soon to come Delta Recruits. Borg ground, forget it TRIBBLE.... So what other option is there for borg nerual processors? I guess I could play the lottery and pray I get one as a rep project reward.
Damn man before Delta Rising this game was fun. Now it's painful. There is no fun in failing due to (required) optionals.
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Ive long since stopped doing ICA or Vortex
Borg disconected is a good way to get them and my best advice DONT PUG the pug on most STFs has died since DR and i do think it was cryptics intent to kill the PUG groups.
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I was in a T6 Scryer sci ship with multiple shield buffs & my shields still got insta-stripped! C'mon! Seriously?!?! WTF?!?! I know that players want more of a challenge but now it's just plain ridiculous & not fun at all!!! STO is a game & games are supposed to be fun!
Cryptic, you'd better wise up very soon because no fun = no players = no STO anymore = no money for you = more layoffs!!!
FCS!!! Get your s*** together & your house in order!!!
YES! I'm nerd raging!
:mad::mad::mad:
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Exactly. The people failing must have gotten use to being carried through STFs preDR, now a lot of better players tend to not PUG, leaving these poor souls to fail multiple times. The same tactics from 4 years ago still apply, so go read/watch something about the STFs you want to run on Advanced.
Read the original post again please.
I am only talking about the latest buffing & nerfing from the last patch.
I have played the Borg advanced stf's prior & had no issues & it was still fun. Now I get so aggro'd & shield insta-stripped by the spheres that it's now impossible. And I am not the only one that is saying this.
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Fed/Andorian: Lissan Ek'Noor sh'Aqabaa Fleet: Section 31
KDF/Cardi: K'Im Qah da Sian Fleet: Klingon Intelligence
KDF/Reman: R'Chras Jonzor Fleet: Klingon Intelligence
Any way simple quick easy way to fix, don't change the npcs or the mission, rewards should change.
Only the bnp, acient power cells etc should change.
Normal 1 fixed drop
Advance 1-3 depending on if optionals are done
Elite 3-5 again depending on optionals.
Come on devs give us a bone here......
Join The Space Invaders,..... Federation and KDF fleets.
Maybe you should look@your build & change some powers and/or gear now.
You can earn the special currencies from nonSTFs now. If you don't intend on having a decent build, then why do you care about Advanced? Also, you can complete Advanced STFs w/Episode gear.
Please stop asking for carebear mode on Advanced just because you aren't up to Advanced standards. There's Normal mode for relaxed runs, try it.
You DON'T need to buy gear that requires Omega marks to be good in Borg STFs. Basic mk XII gear that you get from exchange will do just fine. If that's not fine for you, there are sets obtainable from Nukara and New Romulus reputations, those need only marks, dilithium and energy credits.
Also, if you are in fleet, you have numerous options to get fleet credits and then buy fleet gear for fleet credits and dilithium.
While I agree required what-were-optionals-before-DR are annoying in Advanced (IMO they should still be optionals in Advanced and required in Elite), Borg Adv. STFs are not actually really hard if you have a team that knows what to do.
P.S. If you are struggling and can't complete those missions, you may send me (@tunebreaker) a mail or PM in game. I'm totally willing to team up with you and help you improve.
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Actually what players asked for was a level above advance to test their metal, not a complete reworking of all the levels.
Join The Space Invaders,..... Federation and KDF fleets.
They made Borg harder. Look them in series/movies (excluding ep. "Endgame"). Borg are supposed to be hard. While I die once or twice now since my shields are stripped really quickly and my poor sci ship is not the best in hull tanking, it's still very possible to complete STFs.
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So is Cryptic now catering to the dps'res & pvp'rs? Maybe, since these are probably the players (whales) most likely to actually spend money. So, in a way this feels like Cryptic is abandoning new players & alt toons in favor of the whales.
Thanks to Cryptic for sucking all the fun outta the game for the majority of players!
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Fed/Andorian: Lissan Ek'Noor sh'Aqabaa Fleet: Section 31
KDF/Cardi: K'Im Qah da Sian Fleet: Klingon Intelligence
KDF/Reman: R'Chras Jonzor Fleet: Klingon Intelligence
Entry level gear is MK XI Rare, no need for Reputation stuff in advanced.
The answer to your question is simple: He has to learn how to play instead of just mindlessly firing around or hoping for an evil DPSer to carry him through.
P.S.: And no, I am most certainly not a white knight, I like to point out cryptics mistakes, but the difficult-adaption isnt one of them.
P.P.S.: For the very weak, you can still be carried through in defera, 4-5 BNPs a day.
Adapt...
Not only the STF's also the SP missions Spheres insta strip shields some kind of bug I guess... Also Normal runs in STF spheres instant strip your shields and not only the borg some DR species can do this so I guess it's a bug.
But if you guys want this to be solved make a youtube vid of what you mean and Devs can look at it they have then a lot more info then all the help devs my build is beaten up by your STF's.
So make a youtube video place it on the forum one of the devs will certain to look at it and maybe give you tips or maybe it is a bug and they can solve it !!!
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Or maybe they just ignore it. Actually, they most probably will ignore it.
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My Youtube channel containing STO videos.
It's really nice that most comments like these come from people who recieved their STF gear at pre-buff-times, when you could just faceroll the event...
The developers embraced the power creep, because they can sell it, and because it's an easily conveyed strategy their Chinese overlords can comprehend.
DPSers are just the demographic least impacted, similar to how the exchange monkeys thrive under the lockbox model.
Besides, the game was in as terrible a state when I left shortly after LoR as it is now. One of the few problems the devs managed to address was to make the content more "challenging," and to address what was a persistent and growing AFK problem at the time.
The rep gear isn't all that great.
Post-DR, I got rudely reminded quick fast and in a hurry of this:
I Qued for a PUG ISA. And about one minute later, I was in Respawnville. Whoa! This is not the usual result! Usually I can blow the defenders away fast enough where the rest of the team can immediately begin heading left. Then, I took a second trip to Respawnville about five minutes in. By this time, my feelings were pretty sore and I had my Grognard Ability fully engaged. We failed to keep one Nanite Sphere from a transformer and were kicked out before I could respawn. It was an eye opener. I had gotten soft and lazy. I had stopped thinking about or using tactics and techniques for success. Because I could use brute force DPS to cover the sloppiness of my play and to cover my mistakes. In short, I was a typical STO player. Brain on idle while absently pawing at a worn out Spacebar.
Most of the problems with the current STF failures post-DR can be laid directly at the feet of the player. An unpleasant and unpalatable fact. Which is nonetheless quite true. It has taken me a long time to get back to where I was. I have worked very hard to critique myself and the way I play STO. Which was not pleasant sometimes, but I am happy to report I am not that guy any more in any STF. Further, I am not a whale, nor a genius either. I did nothing which any other player cannot do.
I've stopped playing/pugging any of the STFs. But not because of what is written above. All of the STFs are winnable as they currently are. But the rewards in Dilithium, and BNPs, from the STFs are no longer worth the time and effort required to acquire them.
Don't pug ... make friends with good players, ask them for advice, team up with them.
This is how I got from zero to kinda hero, and had fun in the meanwhile because ... this is a social game after all and it's more fun to play together with friends than "alone".
If you need BNP's, like others said, Defera gives one.
Infected Space advanced gives BNPs even when the optional is failed.
Indeed. It's good to see someone finally gets this. I never understand why players keep asking for secondary deflectors, upgradeable kits and kit modules and all that when the net effect will be zero in the long term anyway.
The only thing players are achieving is a need to upgrade more different items and more effort for, in the end, nothing.
"Progress"
Instead of bleeting, how about getting better at the game? Did that ever occur to you? You can pass an advanced match with green spec gear if you know what you are doing.
As far as space goes apart from engines, deflector, two consoles and more recently a shield. Everything else on my odyssey comes from other sources.
As for ground I have nothing that comes from the reputation chains. And I and a few other members of my fleet do extremely well without it.