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vocmcpvocmcp Member Posts: 1,134 Arc User

So HOW EXACTLY is my old bug now at T6 capabilities when you're just launching a new one?! Stand by your words and give me the option to get an equal ship! Make people pay 1000 zen if you must but don't just throw another gamble into our face and don't just trash what we paid HUGE sums for.

I feel like you just spat into my face.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    if something a computer game company does would upset me that much, I'd know it is time to quit...
    Go pro or go home
  • gamer940gamer940 Member Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They did give it the upgrade for free. Just like everything else that can be upgraded, it is only missing giving a trait.
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    gamer940 wrote: »
    They did give it the upgrade for free. Just like everything else that can be upgraded, it is only missing giving a trait.

    I guess you're missing the point ...
    Cryptic wrote:
    With the release of Star Trek Online: Delta Rising, this starship (either from this run of the promotion or from previous runs) will be upgradeable to Tier 6 starship capabilities at no cost.
    Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    vocmcp wrote: »
    So HOW EXACTLY is my old bug now at T6 capabilities when you're just launching a new one?! Stand by your words and give me the option to get an equal ship! Make people pay 1000 zen if you must but don't just throw another gamble into our face and don't just trash what we paid HUGE sums for.

    I feel like you just spat into my face.

    Welcome to big fat lies Cryptic says. The other one being DR is the best expansion ever and players love it.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    vocmcp wrote: »
    So HOW EXACTLY is my old bug now at T6 capabilities when you're just launching a new one?! Stand by your words and give me the option to get an equal ship! Make people pay 1000 zen if you must but don't just throw another gamble into our face and don't just trash what we paid HUGE sums for.

    I feel like you just spat into my face.

    I do feel bad for people who spent tons of money on this. Be prepared for the fanboys that will throw the book at you and say Cryptic can change the terms of anything whenever they want and bla bla bla.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    gamer940 wrote: »
    They did give it the upgrade for free. Just like everything else that can be upgraded, it is only missing giving a trait.

    Yeah, and if you're able to get a good trait (like the Manasa's trait), it's still a great ship.

    That being said, it's not the greatest decision in the world, on Cryptic's part. At the very least, it's unnecessary... at most, well, you can read others' comments.

    THAT being said... I be getting it. :D
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Let the rage begin lol.
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    shockingly i seemed to be the only one that was annoyed when the 't6 capabilities' turned out to be nothing but a t5u.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    Exactly what I said.

    Considering a bug report on this one, they've done something about my last 3...
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  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Gamble... or pay out the TRIBBLE in EC on the Exchange? Oh which oh which...
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  • dukeskyloaferdukeskyloafer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I thought we settled this a long time ago. When Cryptic said "Tier 6 capabilities," they meant T5U. Were you waiting for an additional upgrade in order to add a trait to the JHAS?
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    shockingly i seemed to be the only one that was annoyed when the 't6 capabilities' turned out to be nothing but a t5u.

    TBH ... they managed to "pull a Cryptic" on me in this case ... I didn't even realize, until now that the original "promise" was an T6-Upgrade ... mostly because I was lucky enough to get a JHAS out of 10 "Red Presents" back in the day ... so it was never really "precious" to me ... I feel for people spending thousands of dollars, though ...
    I thought we settled this a long time ago. When Cryptic said "Tier 6 capabilities," they meant T5U. Were you waiting for an additional upgrade in order to add a trait to the JHAS?

    You're hilarious ... and when Cryptic said "T5(U) wouldn't become obsolete", they meant "would become obsolete"

    PS : Thanks for the whole "you should have known what I meant" - Argument, picturing Cryptic as some nagging housewife, right now ... hilarous, made my day ...
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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Why is anyone still surprised as far as the resale of a new version of a popular ship?

    I mean, the writing was on the wall with the Pathfinder, and their Promotion Packs have always been a hit. It was only a matter of time.

    But this sets another precedent; how long before the T6 Voth Bulwark? Preferably with a Self-Resurrection Mastery Trait and a console option to call in a Voth Citadel Dreadnought (shares CD with the Fleet Support/Nimbus Pirate Distress Call) please.
  • scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Id really likle the new ship BUT I wont support thsat gamble SH** with my money
    and since it will cost 400-500MIL EC on exchange im not going to gt it
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    shockingly i seemed to be the only one that was annoyed when the 't6 capabilities' turned out to be nothing but a t5u.

    Tier 5u was always a bad idea in my eyes, but Cryptic and I often disagreed on ship power levels. I hated the lower-tier Refits like the Rhode Island, too.
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  • dukeskyloaferdukeskyloafer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    You're hilarious ... and when Cryptic said "T5(U) wouldn't become obsolete", they meant "would become obsolete"

    When Cryptic said "T5U won't become obsolete," they meant "in the next 5 minutes."
  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    On the bright side; at least you can start grinding for EC if you haven't already.

    Or invest in the old JHAS, which I'm sure is already plummeting in price because some waited too long to sell.

    Of course, it'd be even better if the new JHSS allowed purchase of JHSS Frigate pets, or at least the old JHAS Frigate pets.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I thought we settled this a long time ago. When Cryptic said "Tier 6 capabilities," they meant T5U. Were you waiting for an additional upgrade in order to add a trait to the JHAS?

    i have to wonder why they didnt simply say 't5u' then.
    actually i dont wonder at all. i know why.
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    i have to wonder why they didnt simply say 't5u' then.
    actually i dont wonder at all. i know why.

    We all know why... at the time they had a bug R&D promo going on. One last chance to cash in big on the old one. By letting people think they where getting a T6 ship. Bait and switch, would be illegal if this TRIBBLE wasn't online.

    Cryptic is the biggest slime ball Developer out there. I really don't know why people still play this junk.
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  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I stopped taking this game seriously forever ago. To save yourselves pain I suggest people do the same. I gave up long ago on the idea of a good Star Trek MMORPG.

    I now only play STO solely to RP and get immersed into some version of Star Trek and try really hard to ignore the many things that drive me up the wall. Like the fleets of non-Starfleet, non-KDF, and non-Romulan ships everywhere being flown by Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan captains. It's about as crazy as the U.S. military deciding to use the Russian T-90 as their MBT. It just doesn't happen.


    A freaking Jem'Hadar Attack Ship was the most powerful ship in the game for the longest time. And the devs never truly desired to change that. Delta Rising should have been a fresh start, but nothing has really changed.
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    Cryptic is the biggest slime ball Developer out there. I really don't know why people still play this junk.

    Sadly, most game developers go this route these days. EA would pull this garbage in Madden (a console game, no less).
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhall85 wrote: »
    Sadly, most game developers go this route these days. EA would pull this garbage in Madden (a console game, no less).

    No I have seen plenty of developers selling Power.... to be honest not many most sell cosemtics.

    I can't recall EVER seeing another one pull a full on bait and switch. Advertising one thing then doing another. As I said, if the ships we where buying where real items and not pixles it would be illegal in every state and province in NA, and the EU as well. No one selling say a car cause people love to use that one ... could say order now and get a 2018 model and then deliver a 2017 and so oh well, thanks for your coins.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I bought the scryer for the trait on the last sale here and it is absolute garbage next to my vesta.
    The Vesta does twice the damage and is more durable.

    Now if there ever is a T6 Vesta or Xindi Aquatic - sign me up!
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    serevn wrote: »
    I stopped taking this game seriously forever ago. To save yourselves pain I suggest people do the same. I gave up long ago on the idea of a good Star Trek MMORPG.

    I now only play STO solely to RP and get immersed into some version of Star Trek and try really hard to ignore the many things that drive me up the wall. Like the fleets of non-Starfleet, non-KDF, and non-Romulan ships everywhere being flown by Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan captains. It's about as crazy as the U.S. military deciding to use the Russian T-90 as their MBT. It just doesn't happen.


    A freaking Jem'Hadar Attack Ship was the most powerful ship in the game for the longest time. And the devs never truly desired to change that. Delta Rising should have been a fresh start, but nothing has really changed.

    Sorry. RP'ing isn't fun to me. I play this because it's an MMO, and the Star Trek stuff is a side benefit. I'm glad you're having fun with RP'ing or whatever else you're doing. That doesn't mean that your method of enjoyment is the only right one.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    No I have seen plenty of developers selling Power.... to be honest not many most sell cosemtics.

    I can't recall EVER seeing another one pull a full on bait and switch. Advertising one thing then doing another. As I said, if the ships we where buying where real items and not pixles it would be illegal in every state and province in NA, and the EU as well. No one selling say a car cause people love to use that one ... could say order now and get a 2018 model and then deliver a 2017 and so oh well, thanks for your coins.

    This is exactly what EA did with the Madden NFL franchise. Charge $60 USD every year for a roster change and updated team schedules? Remove features only to return them as "new" a few years later? Then instituting a card-based system in both mobile and console systems, in which you upgrade your team/players by buying the latest card? Oh, and those two systems (mobile and console) aren't compatible, so you'll have to buy cards twice?

    That's why I no longer own a Playstation, or support Electronic Arts. This is nothing new in gaming.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhall85 wrote: »
    This is exactly what EA did with the Madden NFL franchise. Charge $60 USD every year for a roster change and updated team schedules? Remove features only to return them as "new" a few years later? Then instituting a card-based system in both mobile and console systems, in which you upgrade your team/players by buying the latest card? Oh, and those two systems (mobile and console) aren't compatible, so you'll have to buy cards twice?

    That's why I no longer own a Playstation, or support Electronic Arts. This is nothing new in gaming.

    Well there ya go... Cryptic is right up there with EA. ;) lol

    You have to love Crytpics though... there lie is only a few months old at this point. They made a point of saying other ships would be T5U but they singled the bug out as being something different and it being on par with T6. Of course while they had a promo on that people where spending $ on to gain a ship they read by Cryptics hand would be T6. Now what 5 months later they release the real T6 Version of it.

    In the EA case being years apart I could understand excuses, and reasoning like the plans changed and it wasn't planed.

    In Cryptics case this one is 100% planned... and they where 100% lying and being intentionally misleading when the last bug promo was on.

    I wish the player base of STO wasn't filled with so many window lickers, cause a move like this would seriously kill most developers.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    T5 ships bought during the sale came with a free T5-U upgrade! *table flip*

    Ok, not quite table flip mad but it sure was salt in the wounds.

    They should have just made all T5 ships T5-U since you can't get the ship trait below T6.
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This is the worst company I've ever seen. So sad to see what once was a good game trashed.

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  • abfabfleetabfabfleet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    vocmcp wrote: »
    So HOW EXACTLY is my old bug now at T6 capabilities when you're just launching a new one?! Stand by your words and give me the option to get an equal ship! Make people pay 1000 zen if you must but don't just throw another gamble into our face and don't just trash what we paid HUGE sums for.

    I feel like you just spat into my face.

    ^^^With this being said, Craptic, go #$%^ yourself. More lies?!?!?!? REALLY???!?!?! After the Tau Dewa debacle?!?!? In your own damn post you CLEARLY indicated to all current bug ship owners would get a free T6 upgrade.

    No longer impressed. I will play your game for R&D Only, Take your metrics and Delta Rising and Rot well you know where... :mad:
  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    vocmcp wrote: »
    So HOW EXACTLY is my old bug now at T6 capabilities when you're just launching a new one?! Stand by your words and give me the option to get an equal ship! Make people pay 1000 zen if you must but don't just throw another gamble into our face and don't just trash what we paid HUGE sums for.

    I feel like you just spat into my face.

    Sorry but I can't resist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ednKK8GlvwI

    Now that's out my system, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but yes they did say the Bug was going up to T6, so really I can foresee a lot of upset over this, and I can fully understand it, this is just another cash grab from Cryptic and sad to see how blatant it is but it just goes to show there's no shame in this company any more :(
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