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New Command Cruisers..are they worth it?

scrag0416scrag0416 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
Have to ask, are they worth it? Thanks.
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  • stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Personally I think not, no. The fed ships virtually look alike, the KDF ones are junk. The romulan ones look ok but all traits on all faction ships are the same. theres no variety.
    Theres no intel stations on these ships.
    As for each ship being 3000 zen to buy, that is a total rip off. way overpriced.
  • aevlomaevlom Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'll stick with my T6 Intel ship. The command skill line is pretty bad compared to the Intel skill line, in my opinion.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,891 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    stuart1965 wrote: »
    Personally I think not, no. The fed ships virtually look alike, the KDF ones are junk. The romulan ones look ok but all traits on all faction ships are the same. theres no variety.
    Theres no intel stations on these ships.
    As for each ship being 3000 zen to buy, that is a total rip off. way overpriced.

    Gee...no intel station on a command based ship...who woulda think it? :rolleyes:

    Since you seem to be a fan of intel ships I will point out they also cost 3k...just as every other single T6 ship costs...except you know what? These are T6F where you will need to purchase T6F whenever they're released.

    You just don't know what you're talking about there is no variety...these ships are like the only 3 and or 9 packs to include ships with different boff layouts...usually the 3 ships in a pack have identical stats except for the console layout.

    Just sounds to me you haven't even looked at them and you're just on a Cryptic hating bias.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I don't think any of the new T6 ships are worth it. I haven't purchased a single one and am doing perfectly fine with my T5U's. :)
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  • revanindustriesrevanindustries Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If you like cruisers and play with a premade team, the I'd say go for it. Command skills are nearly all team based, so they'll fall flat in a disorganized pug. Personally, I'm holding out until the KDF gets a proper T6 Raider, but that's just my playstyle.
  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    depends on what you want it for...command space abilitys are fairly support oriented

    if your looking for a dps machine there are better choices
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The Presidio (Tac variant) is worth it for the trait alone.
  • j0hn41j0hn41 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    The Presidio (Tac variant) is worth it for the trait alone.

    3000 zen for just a trait, ANY trait, is too much for me. Just my opinion.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    scrag0416 wrote: »
    Title: New Command Cruisers..are they worth it?

    Have to ask, are they worth it? Thanks.

    Worth it for what? What are you looking to do? What's your playstyle?

    Cause that's going to affect the answers you get, eh? With it left open as it is, could get answers from folks that play completely different than you do...which could adversely affect any decisions you make.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    j0hn41 wrote: »
    3000 zen for just a trait, ANY trait, is too much for me. Just my opinion.

    It is.

    But this trait is so hilariously OP.
  • starsword1989starsword1989 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    3 of them have different bridge officer layout and console layout to play around. 3 different ship masteries.

    Tons of customization options (more so than the intel ships and any of the 3 pack ships I've bought).

    New gameplay style, you can choose not to use command bo abilities and stick with traditional engineering boff skills too.

    So I say it's worth it:)
  • stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Gee...no intel station on a command based ship...who woulda think it? :rolleyes:

    Since you seem to be a fan of intel ships I will point out they also cost 3k...just as every other single T6 ship costs...except you know what? These are T6F where you will need to purchase T6F whenever they're released.

    You just don't know what you're talking about there is no variety...these ships are like the only 3 and or 9 packs to include ships with different boff layouts...usually the 3 ships in a pack have identical stats except for the console layout.

    Just sounds to me you haven't even looked at them and you're just on a Cryptic hating bias.

    Nothing to do with hating cryptic Mr Fanboy, I say what i think, wether its good or bad.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,891 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    stuart1965 wrote: »
    Nothing to do with hating cryptic Mr Fanboy, I say what i think, wether its good or bad.

    I'm not a fanboy, I'm just speaking the truth and either you're flat out lying and hating on cryptic or you're flat out lying because you haven't even bothered to look at them or maybe a little bit of both.
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    scrag0416 wrote: »
    Have to ask, are they worth it? Thanks.

    IMHO, 3 reasons I don't think that they are worth it.

    1) Money: haven't quite recovered from all the holiday splurging, so I personally don't have the money at the moment to spend.

    2) Redundancy: as someone stated before, there are similar ships that can match or even exceed the command ships in terms of performance if built correctly.

    3) Timing: coupled with the Anniversary event and that fact that Delta Rising (yes, players love it, w/e) was released a few months ago with the intel ships, it all seems a bit too fast paced. Personally, it usually takes me several months to fully kit out a ship, and a few more before I get bored enough to buy more stuff.
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    They're worth it if you're one of those people who constantly wants the New Shiny. If you want a ship you'll still be flying after the next Specialization Tree is introduced with its batch of New Shiny ships, you might want to look at the Tier 5 options instead.
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  • stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I'm not a fanboy, I'm just speaking the truth and either you're flat out lying and hating on cryptic or you're flat out lying because you haven't even bothered to look at them or maybe a little bit of both.

    I have looked at them and don't like them at all. im flat out giving my opinion as i am entitled to do like anyone else.So please don't assume or pre-judge me.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    stuart1965 wrote: »
    I have looked at them and don't like them at all. im flat out giving my opinion as i am entitled to do like anyone else.So please don't assume or pre-judge me.

    For the most part, you did just give opinion - however you also worked in some misinformation...which is probably why they said what they did, not because they're a fanboy but because of that misinformation worked into the opinion.
  • stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    For the most part, you did just give opinion - however you also worked in some misinformation...which is probably why they said what they did, not because they're a fanboy but because of that misinformation worked into the opinion.

    Whatever misinformation that is, i am unaware of it. I made an opinion that i dont like the command ships and that they are over priced. That is an opinion not misinformation.
  • jbmaverickjbmaverick Member Posts: 935 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    depends on what you want it for...command space abilitys are fairly support oriented

    if your looking for a dps machine there are better choices

    Pretty much this. I don't play super dps machine, I prefer to play a tanky setup in space combat so that my other non-super-dps-machine friends and fleet mates can focus on how they want to play rather than blowing up repeatedly. I was already running into some ability overlap on other ships and Intel didn't have anything that really worked for my playstyle, but Command does have a few options.

    So far I'm quite enjoying my Geneva-class, still playing around with options to get the most out of it.

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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Having got the Fed pack, they are nothing to write home about. They're okay, just not all that different from current cruisers.

    Not really looked into the Command powers, so that may change my outlook.

    Kind of wished id saved the 3k Zen and got the Eclipse instead...
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  • starwheelerstarwheeler Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I dont think it is worth buying any of those ship,all cruiser no turn rate and wow can equip cannon, lol sure just do the sitting duck in front of the enemy wonderful. one description makes me laugh it's the romulan vastam, which offer more tac consol and tactical bridge officer seat ,wooow hoo in deed 1 lieutenant commander seat where's the other tac seat feel like i'm getting railrolled,
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    It is.

    But this trait is so hilariously OP.

    literally this, if you don't care about DPS at all, and simply plays completely casually then you don't need it, but if you want to do DPS in any way(hardcore or not), the tac version is a must have due to how amazingly OP the all hands on deck trait is, especially if you're tac.

    and don't forget, if your main character is a fed, do remember that this is a cruiser with a hangar that also has 4 tac console slots with lt.com tac plus a lt. universal AND it has a turn rate of 8, one of the highest for fed cruisers, those things together make the presidio hands down the best fed cruiser atm.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,891 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I dont think it is worth buying any of those ship,all cruiser no turn rate and wow can equip cannon, lol sure just do the sitting duck in front of the enemy wonderful. one description makes me laugh it's the romulan vastam, which offer more tac consol and tactical bridge officer seat ,wooow hoo in deed 1 lieutenant commander seat where's the other tac seat feel like i'm getting railrolled,

    Well it doesn't have the worst turn rate...it's better than the Guardian and other Cruisers/BattleCruisers and worse than others...definitely isn't the worst turn rate which you're making it kinda sound like. :P
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  • bravecatherinebravecatherine Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The T6 Intel ships are the best bang for your buck at the current state of the game.:(
  • sentinel64sentinel64 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I will point out they [Intel ships] also cost 3k...just as every other single T6 ship costs...

    The difference btw the Intel ship rollout and the Command ship sale is that the former had a lot of extras that made the DR Ops package appealing. The Command ship bundle is just a bunch of cookie-cutter ships (just like the Dyson ship bundle that had to go on sale for more to buy in, to include me). I would say these ships are no better than any other ship that players like. Is it worth the expense... only if you like to play with what is offers and accept the expense of getting these abilities... I am waiting on the sale.... ;)
  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited February 2015
    For a new player with a t4 ship

    I say yes there worth it

    For a veteran player with say t6 or t5u ships there not nessary
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  • xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nope don't get them! DONT GIVE IN!
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If these were new science ships, then I would be interested in buying them in the short term because I have a KDF and Romulan science toons and they need a T6 science ship. My KDF toon is currently flying the T5U B'rel Retrofit BoP and my Romulan toon is flying the Breen Carrier. Neither are true science ships, but I have adapted them to my needs.

    Since I purchased the DR Ops pack when it was discount in Dec / Nov last year, I do not feel compelled to buy the new cruisers. Perhaps I will do so towards the end of this year.
  • forthegamerforthegamer Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Most of the people I've spoken to in my fleet have said it is a good ship that can provide something different. Unfortunately, I don't own it myself, though if it is anything like the Samsar, I think I'd approve of it.
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