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Am I the only one who'd like events shortened.
anazonda
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Ok... Here is the deal:
I realize that events are an important part of MMOs for whatever reason beyond me...
The metrics support this and I am fine with the events, since they add a little flavor into the game every now and then.
However, I feel that the events are too long and too frequent.
For example: We just very recently had the Winter event, then we have the anniversary, next up is the CE event... Then we have a few months break before the mirror event (probably turns up) and then comes the Mirror event, and then the summer event, re-run of the CE and Mirror is probably next, and then back to winter event.
While I like the events, they do have the drawback that people put a great deal of effort into getting the rewards, which is perfectly understandable to me. Who dosen't like extra dil?
But right now, there is already an ongoing shortage of players in the public queues, and quite often, people only have a limited amount of time to play, wich is usually to a high degree consumed by the events.
I am wondering, if it's reasonable to reduce the event periods by maybe 25 - 50%, and open up more actual non-event gametime.
Obviously this would require increased rewards in terms of Q-thingies and what not, and this is where I see Cryptic might be reluctant in implementing such a change.
So... Question is: IS is a reasonable request, or am I a significant minority in feeling this way?
I realize that events are an important part of MMOs for whatever reason beyond me...
The metrics support this and I am fine with the events, since they add a little flavor into the game every now and then.
However, I feel that the events are too long and too frequent.
For example: We just very recently had the Winter event, then we have the anniversary, next up is the CE event... Then we have a few months break before the mirror event (probably turns up) and then comes the Mirror event, and then the summer event, re-run of the CE and Mirror is probably next, and then back to winter event.
While I like the events, they do have the drawback that people put a great deal of effort into getting the rewards, which is perfectly understandable to me. Who dosen't like extra dil?
But right now, there is already an ongoing shortage of players in the public queues, and quite often, people only have a limited amount of time to play, wich is usually to a high degree consumed by the events.
I am wondering, if it's reasonable to reduce the event periods by maybe 25 - 50%, and open up more actual non-event gametime.
Obviously this would require increased rewards in terms of Q-thingies and what not, and this is where I see Cryptic might be reluctant in implementing such a change.
So... Question is: IS is a reasonable request, or am I a significant minority in feeling this way?
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PVE queues are dead enough without people spending all day farming omega traces or qmendations or whatever.
Shortening the events, or possibly toning down the frequency might work. I don't know...I think there's so much wrong these days a proper fix is going to have to be pretty massive.
Personally i'm burned out on events and grinding out currencies to acquire free ships or other shiny rewards. Even with the discounts the grind really gets to you, and most of the rewards are pretty meh when you do get them.
The anniversary event is too close to winter event to give anyone a break to enjoy flying their winter reward ship.
Also i'd really like to see them actually get people to log in through good game design, rather than by bribing us with shiny toys that end of a month long grind. Sure it gets their "metrics" up but it's killing the game because there's no "real" content anymore.
I for one agree. I've solved it, for myself, whenever a game I play has some kind of event I grab the free stuff, do the dailies and when done go play another game. And I just rotate like that. In the end I don't have to do the long events or grinds, at all.
But as I've said before in other threads, it all comes from an archaic business idea that the longer the customer spend in the "store" the more likely he/she is to buy something. That is why. Guess they are not really on top of current events and how people shop today.
But generally there are always more players suddenly around during event time, no doubt to get the grand prize on offer. And this time round the boosted EXP typically available will also be of particular interest I'm sure. Since these peak periods probably look good on a presentation slide I wouldn't expect them to consider reeling them back in a bit.
Maybe it's to appease the 'we want our hourlies back' crowd with the frequency and length of them?
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It helps people who may not be able to log in every day for, whatever reason, to get the big rewards. It also helps pad against outages. If they have to take the servers down to fix a problem, people will still have the ability to finish the event even with real life issues. Cryptic doesn't have to go back and extend the event since it's already been padded against disaster from the outset.
As far as queues go, You should grab some of your fleet mates, or friends and form a group to do those missions. If that is not in the cards, you can always hit up one of the many channels made for forming groups for PvE queues, PvP, or even patrol grouping.
I am certain Cryptic consults their metrics on how long the events should run so that the majority of players can get what they need.
For me, the events keep me logging in. Queued missions in their current state don't.
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Heck, at least make the special item do the account-discount thing like with special ships. If you want the full dil and marks then yeah do 14 runs, but for just the shotgun or coff or whatever, just one per alt. Make the game less grindy.
I didn't get that from the OP's post.
But if he IS saying that he would like to shorten the length of time required to complete the event as opposed to shortening the overall duration, then yes, I would be in favor of that.
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Hmm. I think I understand the feeling. I noticed that I am very busy doing event-related stuff across my characters, but rarely have time to do other things.
That may be knida the point - keep people busy all the time so they log in daily "just until the event is over, than I'll do STFs again/level my alt". But there is already the next event around the corner. No one can complain "there is nothing to do in STO" anymore.
But maybe it has a negative impact. Slow queues may not be directly anegative impact, as long as people are still playing the game. But if people at some point feel burned out - it could be bad, if they aren't replaced by new players.
But then - the events might always attract old and new players, too, so it's not a net loss?
You're saying it doesn't work like that anymore? That people have significantly changed their F2P spending behaviour? In what way has it changed?
Events represent variety, a change of pace from the standard routine. It keeps the game interesting. If you don't want to do a particular event, then don't.
The Winter event wasn't a problem since I noticed that the excitement over that tapered off after a week. This event, though, is just annoying because of the UI lag it's caused and the lag in the popular social zones that's made me totally avoid them.
Overall agree with the OP, but, whatever, it's a game and events won't die without me. The big exception for me is the summer event, which was awesome last year so it can last all summer.
Also too, the summer, winter, and anniversary events are traditions in this game that they're not going to stop any time soon.
Events should be designed for fun's sake and not to force people to grind the same friggin mission for over two weeks just to see the light at the end of the tunnel and another three week grind approching. Stuff like the CC or mirror events are the best examples of this.
it seems to me you have given the exact reason why cryptic will not alter the event parameters right there.
on a personal note I quite enjoy the events as they are, not only for the main rewards but also from the added exp, sxp, dil & sometimes EC & fleet marks I get from playing them and they also add a nice bit of variety throughout the year and give a welcome distraction from the normal routines.
how much do I enjoy the events?, I got the anniversary ship on the first day with qmendations saved and I am still playing both the q party mission and the particle game every day, that's how much.
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I like the events and lengths, as others have said, it gives ppl a chance to get the prize, if they can't log in everyday. (Unless of course youre rolling in Lobi, and want to completely skip the event).
However, I do agree they are a little too close together.
I'd like a month or so off between events. Would give me some time to do what I want in game, and play stress free (sometimes getting your daily done can feel like a job tbh).
What I've done this past year is to compete as much as possible in these events, in the hopes that next year, I can chill out during events.
For example, I've got spare pearls from the risa event last summer, also I've got about 5 or 6 thingies that drop from mirror invasion event. Etc..
So this year should be easy. I've got spares from every event last year.
Mind you, grinding for "next year" is a little mind numbing admittedly, especially when you know you've already gotten this year's prize...but push through. If youre smart you can basically skip a year, if you plan appropriatly, and don't stop doing the daily once your prize is achieved.
But yeah, the frequency of events does get me a little down. So I'm with you there.
For some people, losing is fun, as long as it happens to other people.
Generally the people that spout "Risk vs. Reward!" as a mantra, never mind that they've minimized their own risk to the absolute minimum and maximized their rewards. They need other people to fail to feel accomplishment.
While the percentage of the total player base that is like that is probably small I'd wager they spend far above their share on the game so Cryptic has a reason to cater to them.
Very true, though I would caution against making things too easy across the board. People already were complaining things were too easy pre DR.
But yeah the rewards reduction on normal will hurt (and is already) hurting the casual players.
There is a huge divide between the top players and the up and comers. A 10 fold gap, while some are hitting 50k in random pugs, others are struggling around the 5k dps mark.
That I think is quite a serious issue. The power gap in other games is no where near as large as it is here. Its like night and day.
A grand canyon sized divide between the top players and up and comers.
I did the new Anniversary event with 2 of my KDF chars but I just don't enjoy this type of "forced" play. My Feds will not get the Kobali ship. None of my chars did the 2014 Summer Event and I was away during the Winter Event. I would probably not have done it anyway. The only even I really like is Mirror Universe.
And those new STF's... The new Optionals that are not optional at all are a pain in the &*&$. Doing KASE we lost 3 games in a row because someone who was handling the probes got the Server Not Responding message. I was one of them. The 20 seconds where I was "frozen" in time were sufficient for the probes to get past me and enter the portal. If it had really been optional then we still could have won. That chance was taken away from us.:mad:
One things that drives me crazy though, is when they run a bonus weekend during an event. I just don't have time to take advantage of both.
Even with the dilithium WEEK, I turned in a grand total of 3 rich claims while focusing on keeping my alts on track for the anniversary.
I will NEVER go to Risa again. Ever.
The problem with these "events" is that most are barely fun the first time. By day 3 they are mindnumbing. By day 10 its like being in a Chinese labor camp.
On most of my characters, I have forgetten what I was even grinding for in the first place.
Also, its not just events. Spent the week end doing R&D... good lord. Fill up slots. Wait 10 minutes - a few hours, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. So between all the time gates and repetitive tasks, I have little will left to actually play.
Risa was nice in that you didn't have the out of bounds or queue jumping of the PvE ice race of the winter event. (Didn't even try the PvP race.) The lack of a super grindy moral killing Tides of Ice event helped too.
Purple boards and the PvP sand castles were the only parts I didn't like.
Yes, running it for 25 days did get to feel like a grind but it was a more pleasant grind than winter or the possibly impossible new Anniversary event (for the first few days).
Doing this, having less "event time," tends to shine a big bright spotlight on the lack of content or lack of recently added content to a game.
Events are a cheap, easy way for MMOs, especially those in Free 2 Play maintenance mode like STO is, to drum up activity without actually investing in improving the game, or to act as a cover screen for the times the developers work on a larger project meant that requires alot of focused time into one area of the game, rather than general improvement work.
Don't expect event lengths and frequency to be reduced. If anything, expect them to gain as we head into the normal lull time between "expansions."
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I wasn't saying that what I asked in my OP was a request or demand... I was simply seeking other peoples attention to give me feedback to evaluate on my own opinion.
I've been reading carefully through the posts... Some have read my OP... Some partially read it (especially those missing the part about the potential of reducing the event times for higher rewards and more "normal" game time), and some have missed the point entirely.
All input are interesting to me (except the latter ones... obviously they don't add usable feedback).
The point is to get input from others than my own, and to have an interesting conversation in the meantime.