No more kdf only content because they made peace with the Feds.
Ok.
But please allow the Feds and kdf to be able to group together.
And allow the them to go to each other's home world.
No more kdf only content because they made peace with the Feds.
Ok.
But please allow the Feds and kdf to be able to group together.
And allow the them to go to each other's home world.
There is no logical reason not to allow this. We are working closely as allies in the delta quadrant. Why can we not do training missions together etc...
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Even if it was true, I can't believe anyone at Cryptic would be stupid enough to confirm it. That's going to send a fair number of KDF-only players into a frenzy otherwise.
Even if it was true, I can't believe anyone at Cryptic would be stupid enough to confirm it. That's going to send a fair number of KDF-only players into a frenzy otherwise.
Geko confirmed it on P1: "We specifically ended the war between the Klingons and the Federation, so we wouldn't have to make content just for Klingons any more." Klink are getting a new ship, though.
Even if it was true, I can't believe anyone at Cryptic would be stupid enough to confirm it. That's going to send a fair number of KDF-only players into a frenzy otherwise.
Unfortunately flash525, no it won't. We're waaaay past frenzy now and into the wonderous world of apathy in regards of our faction. At least most of us on the forum and the KDF enthusiasts I communicate with in-game.
See, we knew this would happen. We expected it. So no, no frenzy. Maybe some bitter-angry comment here and there, but no real frenzy. Cryptic with their misstreatment and clear lack of interest to invest and develop the faction has led to a faction-wide feeling of dissapointment. Not saying that KDF players will stop playing or have completely given up, but we have no real optimism in regards of Cryptic's treatment of our faction and us as a playerbase. We still do and will continue doing our best to keep on keeping on and enjoy ourselves, the community on the red side has been outstanding for years and it's something that brings us together.
I can speak only for myself, and Kahless knows I tried during the years to be supportive, to give ideas, to help organize stuff, give advice, wellcome new people into the faction, etc. However, speaking from today's perspective, I just don't have the will to bother anymore. Couple of years of speaking into something that feels like a brick wall will do that to you.
Anyway, this was the main reason many KDF "hardcores" were adamantly against a peace treaty with the Federation in STO. Not because we wouldn't want to team up with Feds. Not because it doesn't make sense (which considering how butchered the storylines in STO are, it doesn't), but because we knew that this will only turn into Cryptic's excuse for not developing faction specific content anymore. And faction neutral content for Cryptic means Federation content with a couple of words rearranged for the other 2 factions.
I still maintain that the single and only reason they (Cryptic) insisted on the peace treaty is their incompetence, lack of resources and will to maintain and develop a multi-faction experience. Funny thing though, they seem to have no problem marketing and promoting it as a game that offers 3 factions.
In conclusion - "meh". They nerf my faction, I nerf their access to my money.....meh....
Geko confirmed it on P1: "We specifically ended the war between the Klingons and the Federation, so we wouldn't have to make content just for Klingons any more." Klink are getting a new ship, though.
"Wouldn't have to," isn't the same thing as saying "we won't ever." While new missions may not be Klingon exclusive, that doesn't mean they're going to ignore a decent sized chest of design assets and never make another Klingon-centric/themed mission.
All I want is to have cross-faction fleet joining available as soon as a player finishes Surface Tension.
Saving both Mother-Fin' homeworlds in one of the most epic missions in the game means I should bloody well be allowed to join my fed fleet with my KDF char. Instead, KDF fleets languish because there aren't enough people to mitigate the extortion rates of fleet upgrade projects. Fleets are a social thing. It shouldn't be factional.
Unfortunately flash525, no it won't. We're waaaay past frenzy now and into the wonderous world of apathy in regards of our faction. At least most of us on the forum and the KDF enthusiasts I communicate with in-game.
See, we knew this would happen. We expected it. So no, no frenzy. Maybe some bitter-angry comment here and there, but no real frenzy. Cryptic with their misstreatment and clear lack of interest to invest and develop the faction has led to a faction-wide feeling of dissapointment. Not saying that KDF players will stop playing or have completely given up, but we have no real optimism in regards of Cryptic's treatment of our faction and us as a playerbase. We still do and will continue doing our best to keep on keeping on and enjoy ourselves, the community on the red side has been outstanding for years and it's something that brings us together.
I can speak only for myself, and Kahless knows I tried during the years to be supportive, to give ideas, to help organize stuff, give advice, wellcome new people into the faction, etc. However, speaking from today's perspective, I just don't have the will to bother anymore. Couple of years of speaking into something that feels like a brick wall will do that to you.
Anyway, this was the main reason many KDF "hardcores" were adamantly against a peace treaty with the Federation in STO. Not because we wouldn't want to team up with Feds. Not because it doesn't make sense (which considering how butchered the storylines in STO are, it doesn't), but because we knew that this will only turn into Cryptic's excuse for not developing faction specific content anymore. And faction neutral content for Cryptic means Federation content with a couple of words rearranged for the other 2 factions.
I still maintain that the single and only reason they (Cryptic) insisted on the peace treaty is their incompetence, lack of resources and will to maintain and develop a multi-faction experience. Funny thing though, they seem to have no problem marketing and promoting it as a game that offers 3 factions.
In conclusion - "meh". They nerf my faction, I nerf their access to my money.....meh....
/thread. The KDF players are under no illusion as to how the cookie crumbles in regards to factions in this game.
Geko confirmed it on P1: "We specifically ended the war between the Klingons and the Federation, so we wouldn't have to make content just for Klingons any more." Klink are getting a new ship, though.
Oh dear. :rolleyes:
They're pretty much just going to continue rolling universal missions then, that play as if you're a character of the Federation. Well that's LAME. We're getting three new KDF ships, but we're still lacking a half decent Negh'var. The FED-KDF alliance was a poor design choice I am afraid. At least, in my opinion anyway, but that is irrelevant to them.
If it's any consolation, you have my support. I have a KDF character (and three FED characters - only one of which is largely played). Regardless, I've become quite attached to my KDF character lately, and alike you, have closed my wallet.
Honestly I wouldn't mind if Cryptic would just strip those abomination of fed mission ports and replace them with real KDF content, giving us a full and unique level progression.
Gratulations, Cryptic, that masterpiece made me change my delta rising sig.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Honestly I wouldn't mind if Cryptic would just strip those abomination of fed mission ports and replace them with real KDF content, giving us a full and unique level progression.
Gratulations, Cryptic, that masterpiece made me change my delta rising sig.
Oh, angrytarg!! You've got to do one for me with shpoks signed since I don't have that font to copy and edit this sig myself, but I would very much like to use one since it shows my sentiments as well!!
So I hereby humbly request one, if possible, when you have the time to bother.
Unfortunately flash525, no it won't. We're waaaay past frenzy now and into the wonderous world of apathy in regards of our faction. At least most of us on the forum and the KDF enthusiasts I communicate with in-game.
See, we knew this would happen. We expected it. So no, no frenzy. Maybe some bitter-angry comment here and there, but no real frenzy. Cryptic with their misstreatment and clear lack of interest to invest and develop the faction has led to a faction-wide feeling of dissapointment.
Well I ran an inverse Tachyon Pulse through the Universal Translator , and all I got was :
"ppl were complaining that the Romulans were a mere Fraction , and they demanded more content for the Romulans .
Cryptic's solution was to reduce the KDF to a Fraction too ."
Take a good look Feddie's , our past is your future . :P
Q'Plah !
Kahless knows I tried during the years to be supportive, to give ideas, to help organize stuff, give advice, welcome new people into the faction, even Romulans ...
Fixed that for you .
Funny thing though, they seem to have no problem marketing and promoting it as a game that offers 3 factions.
This all leads to sloppy/lazy writing, like one of the kobali missions where a fed says i cant stop the kobali because of the Prime Directive, this to a Rom/Kdf character.:eek:
New home of the Romulan Republic.
I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
Oh, angrytarg!! You've got to do one for me with shpoks signed since I don't have that font to copy and edit this sig myself, but I would very much like to use one since it shows my sentiments as well!!
So I hereby humbly request one, if possible, when you have the time to bother.
I didn't know wether you wanted a targ as well, I chose something to resemble your signature at the moment. If you want something else just message me (though I'll probably will answer tommorow ^^)
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I didn't know wether you wanted a targ as well, I chose something to resemble your signature at the moment. If you want something else just message me (though I'll probably will answer tommorow ^^)
No more kdf only content because they made peace with the Feds.
Ok.
But please allow the Feds and kdf to be able to group together.
And allow the them to go to each other's home world.
Geko also stated that they are planning some Klingon-centric stories. They will still be faction-agnostic, though.
Faction-Specific is pretty much reserved for the mission revamps (and the KDF is also planned for that, after the Cardassian arc possibly - the choice he mentioned was either Breen ARc or Fek'iri arc as the next project after Cardassia)
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Geko confirmed it on P1: "We specifically ended the war between the Klingons and the Federation, so we wouldn't have to make content just for Klingons any more." Klink are getting a new ship, though.
Considering how blindingly stupid the war was in the first place, IMO there was no logical choice plot wise, without a major retcon all the way back to their pretenses for the war, to not eventually have to force them to back down. I don't care how much they blustered in the Sphere conference: they went about being right in a way so wrong that they lost all their moral high ground.
Of course I have also been accused of thinking like a Cardassian and when one considers I still have not "forgiven" them (insofar as one "forgives" fictional characters ) for '72...but to me I see a repeat of the same idiot behavior that got the Dominion a big fat beachhead in the Alpha Quadrant. I think everything the Iconians and Undine have done is worse directly because of the idiot Klink decision to go to war. It was a thinly disguised excuse for a territory grab, and frankly I would've had a bit more respect for Klingons openly motivated by a territory grab than their paper-thin excuses. But again, that would've had to be fixed before launch...
Whoever was responsible for the Path to 2409 should have thought it through before the game ever hit the shelves if they wanted a plot-viable second faction. As it is, they wrote themselves into a box that IMO they have now taken the only logical way out of and at least as an AUTHOR I back that decision 100%. (Now if they want to save PVP, they need to redefine those matches as war games. Otherwise every time you to into a PVP you are endangering the alliance and are in violation of your official chain of command.)
From a gameplay and business perspective, however, it was a severe bungle because a promise was in effect made to those customers who actually do care about the Klingons, and was not delivered on, and even I with my disrespect for the Klinks can see and acknowledge that it was a huge cluster. But the opportunity to NOT do as has now been done, was over at launch.
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Unfortunately flash525, no it won't. We're waaaay past frenzy now and into the wonderous world of apathy in regards of our faction. At least most of us on the forum and the KDF enthusiasts I communicate with in-game.
See, we knew this would happen. We expected it. So no, no frenzy. Maybe some bitter-angry comment here and there, but no real frenzy. Cryptic with their misstreatment and clear lack of interest to invest and develop the faction has led to a faction-wide feeling of dissapointment. Not saying that KDF players will stop playing or have completely given up, but we have no real optimism in regards of Cryptic's treatment of our faction and us as a playerbase. We still do and will continue doing our best to keep on keeping on and enjoy ourselves, the community on the red side has been outstanding for years and it's something that brings us together.
I can speak only for myself, and Kahless knows I tried during the years to be supportive, to give ideas, to help organize stuff, give advice, wellcome new people into the faction, etc. However, speaking from today's perspective, I just don't have the will to bother anymore. Couple of years of speaking into something that feels like a brick wall will do that to you.
Anyway, this was the main reason many KDF "hardcores" were adamantly against a peace treaty with the Federation in STO. Not because we wouldn't want to team up with Feds. Not because it doesn't make sense (which considering how butchered the storylines in STO are, it doesn't), but because we knew that this will only turn into Cryptic's excuse for not developing faction specific content anymore. And faction neutral content for Cryptic means Federation content with a couple of words rearranged for the other 2 factions.
I still maintain that the single and only reason they (Cryptic) insisted on the peace treaty is their incompetence, lack of resources and will to maintain and develop a multi-faction experience. Funny thing though, they seem to have no problem marketing and promoting it as a game that offers 3 factions.
In conclusion - "meh". They nerf my faction, I nerf their access to my money.....meh....
You can speak for me as well in this post.
Thanks for putting things this accurate.;)
On the bright side; this means that future missions focused on the KDF or Romulans would be available to all factions; hopefully with the same bloodthirsty dialogue or actions we normally get playing through the common missions that are technically Fed-based but almost Terran or Janeway in ideology.
And with it would come with some actual KDF (or Romulan) content with some welfare support from the Feds (there's going to be dialogue that suggests Fed intervention for one reason or another). Though I do wonder if they would actually dare to do something like give KDF (or Romulans) 3 ships, while the Feds and the other faction only get 1, or if they'd all get 1 ship, or all gets 2 ships; mostly all reskins of eachother. I do also wonder if that means some KDF wear for the Feds and Romulans, or Romulan wear for the KDF and Feds. Because we know full well Cryptic can't entirely leave the Fed side with nothing.
Any real KDF player knew that Cryptic stopped doing Non-Fed Faction content a long time ago. LOR was the last time the KDF had received faction-specific content.
According to Daniels, the Klingons joined the Federation by the 26th century. (ENT: "Azati Prime")
Yeah, in an alternate future where Archer's crew didn't blow up the sphere network and the anomalies grew for another couple centuries. And Federation starships look on the inside like Cardassian space stations
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We need more KDF content.
There is no logical reason not to allow this. We are working closely as allies in the delta quadrant. Why can we not do training missions together etc...
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Geko confirmed it on P1: "We specifically ended the war between the Klingons and the Federation, so we wouldn't have to make content just for Klingons any more." Klink are getting a new ship, though.
Maybe a hand full of missions about trying to take K-7
Something to do with cloaking K-7 with a Klingon Intel officer who after 5 years (1 sto year) still hasn't cracked.
Then ... something to do with Shanty Town.
Unfortunately flash525, no it won't. We're waaaay past frenzy now and into the wonderous world of apathy in regards of our faction. At least most of us on the forum and the KDF enthusiasts I communicate with in-game.
See, we knew this would happen. We expected it. So no, no frenzy. Maybe some bitter-angry comment here and there, but no real frenzy. Cryptic with their misstreatment and clear lack of interest to invest and develop the faction has led to a faction-wide feeling of dissapointment. Not saying that KDF players will stop playing or have completely given up, but we have no real optimism in regards of Cryptic's treatment of our faction and us as a playerbase. We still do and will continue doing our best to keep on keeping on and enjoy ourselves, the community on the red side has been outstanding for years and it's something that brings us together.
I can speak only for myself, and Kahless knows I tried during the years to be supportive, to give ideas, to help organize stuff, give advice, wellcome new people into the faction, etc. However, speaking from today's perspective, I just don't have the will to bother anymore. Couple of years of speaking into something that feels like a brick wall will do that to you.
Anyway, this was the main reason many KDF "hardcores" were adamantly against a peace treaty with the Federation in STO. Not because we wouldn't want to team up with Feds. Not because it doesn't make sense (which considering how butchered the storylines in STO are, it doesn't), but because we knew that this will only turn into Cryptic's excuse for not developing faction specific content anymore. And faction neutral content for Cryptic means Federation content with a couple of words rearranged for the other 2 factions.
I still maintain that the single and only reason they (Cryptic) insisted on the peace treaty is their incompetence, lack of resources and will to maintain and develop a multi-faction experience. Funny thing though, they seem to have no problem marketing and promoting it as a game that offers 3 factions.
In conclusion - "meh". They nerf my faction, I nerf their access to my money.....meh....
"Wouldn't have to," isn't the same thing as saying "we won't ever." While new missions may not be Klingon exclusive, that doesn't mean they're going to ignore a decent sized chest of design assets and never make another Klingon-centric/themed mission.
All I want is to be able to do fed things.
Saving both Mother-Fin' homeworlds in one of the most epic missions in the game means I should bloody well be allowed to join my fed fleet with my KDF char. Instead, KDF fleets languish because there aren't enough people to mitigate the extortion rates of fleet upgrade projects. Fleets are a social thing. It shouldn't be factional.
/thread. The KDF players are under no illusion as to how the cookie crumbles in regards to factions in this game.
They're pretty much just going to continue rolling universal missions then, that play as if you're a character of the Federation. Well that's LAME. We're getting three new KDF ships, but we're still lacking a half decent Negh'var. The FED-KDF alliance was a poor design choice I am afraid. At least, in my opinion anyway, but that is irrelevant to them.
If it's any consolation, you have my support. I have a KDF character (and three FED characters - only one of which is largely played). Regardless, I've become quite attached to my KDF character lately, and alike you, have closed my wallet.
I want sector space to be open warfare. I then want every KDF ship running to descend upon you and blow you to pieces.
Gratulations, Cryptic, that masterpiece made me change my delta rising sig.
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Well.....since we have said this the other way around many many times, I feel obliged to tell you the following:
If you want to be able to do Fed. things, roll a Federation character!
ROFLMAO!!!! :P
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Oh, angrytarg!! You've got to do one for me with shpoks signed since I don't have that font to copy and edit this sig myself, but I would very much like to use one since it shows my sentiments as well!!
So I hereby humbly request one, if possible, when you have the time to bother.
Well I ran an inverse Tachyon Pulse through the Universal Translator , and all I got was :
"ppl were complaining that the Romulans were a mere Fraction , and they demanded more content for the Romulans .
Cryptic's solution was to reduce the KDF to a Fraction too ."
Take a good look Feddie's , our past is your future . :P
Q'Plah !
Fixed that for you .
Word .
Well at this point , I want sector space to be open welfare !
Lordy knows , there are two Fractions now that seem to need it ... .
I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
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Thank you sooo much! I apreciate it very much.
Geko also stated that they are planning some Klingon-centric stories. They will still be faction-agnostic, though.
Faction-Specific is pretty much reserved for the mission revamps (and the KDF is also planned for that, after the Cardassian arc possibly - the choice he mentioned was either Breen ARc or Fek'iri arc as the next project after Cardassia)
Considering how blindingly stupid the war was in the first place, IMO there was no logical choice plot wise, without a major retcon all the way back to their pretenses for the war, to not eventually have to force them to back down. I don't care how much they blustered in the Sphere conference: they went about being right in a way so wrong that they lost all their moral high ground.
Of course I have also been accused of thinking like a Cardassian and when one considers I still have not "forgiven" them (insofar as one "forgives" fictional characters ) for '72...but to me I see a repeat of the same idiot behavior that got the Dominion a big fat beachhead in the Alpha Quadrant. I think everything the Iconians and Undine have done is worse directly because of the idiot Klink decision to go to war. It was a thinly disguised excuse for a territory grab, and frankly I would've had a bit more respect for Klingons openly motivated by a territory grab than their paper-thin excuses. But again, that would've had to be fixed before launch...
Whoever was responsible for the Path to 2409 should have thought it through before the game ever hit the shelves if they wanted a plot-viable second faction. As it is, they wrote themselves into a box that IMO they have now taken the only logical way out of and at least as an AUTHOR I back that decision 100%. (Now if they want to save PVP, they need to redefine those matches as war games. Otherwise every time you to into a PVP you are endangering the alliance and are in violation of your official chain of command.)
From a gameplay and business perspective, however, it was a severe bungle because a promise was in effect made to those customers who actually do care about the Klingons, and was not delivered on, and even I with my disrespect for the Klinks can see and acknowledge that it was a huge cluster. But the opportunity to NOT do as has now been done, was over at launch.
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Thanks for putting things this accurate.;)
And with it would come with some actual KDF (or Romulan) content with some welfare support from the Feds (there's going to be dialogue that suggests Fed intervention for one reason or another). Though I do wonder if they would actually dare to do something like give KDF (or Romulans) 3 ships, while the Feds and the other faction only get 1, or if they'd all get 1 ship, or all gets 2 ships; mostly all reskins of eachother. I do also wonder if that means some KDF wear for the Feds and Romulans, or Romulan wear for the KDF and Feds. Because we know full well Cryptic can't entirely leave the Fed side with nothing.
And LOR was May 2013.
According to Daniels, the Klingons joined the Federation by the 26th century. (ENT: "Azati Prime")
We're not in the 26th Century :cool:
No, this is plain 'ol Cryptic's lazy development.
Yeah, in an alternate future where Archer's crew didn't blow up the sphere network and the anomalies grew for another couple centuries. And Federation starships look on the inside like Cardassian space stations