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We need this Change!! Ground/Space Active Trait Option!
overkilltbp
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Hey guys didn't know what forum topic to put this in but this is something that a lot of people are fustrated with atm, and its having to manually switch to ground personal and active rep trait abilites, and then when your done with ground, having to manually switch back to personal space and active rep space traits.
I think someone may have overlooked this thing but in doing say bug hunt elite you go ground but then borg dc you go space and if you happen to take the time to reset all the traits you'd spending 5 extra mins atleast to make sure you got it right and if you forget and all your stuff is set to ground and you do a space run its like nerfing yourself!
I think we need a feature added that will remember your personal and active rep ground and space traits respectively, a sorta load out feature for the trait system as you will. Or just even a seperate section to have both saved and the game knows when you are in ground that's why your taskbar skills change to ground abilites and when your in space that same taskbar goes to space abilites.
I don't think it'd be that hard to implement? And if this is in the wrong forum pls move it to the right one?
Thanks for the assist I'm sure a lot of people want and need this option!
I think someone may have overlooked this thing but in doing say bug hunt elite you go ground but then borg dc you go space and if you happen to take the time to reset all the traits you'd spending 5 extra mins atleast to make sure you got it right and if you forget and all your stuff is set to ground and you do a space run its like nerfing yourself!
I think we need a feature added that will remember your personal and active rep ground and space traits respectively, a sorta load out feature for the trait system as you will. Or just even a seperate section to have both saved and the game knows when you are in ground that's why your taskbar skills change to ground abilites and when your in space that same taskbar goes to space abilites.
I don't think it'd be that hard to implement? And if this is in the wrong forum pls move it to the right one?
Thanks for the assist I'm sure a lot of people want and need this option!
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The OP posted a valid question and you respond with this troll post?
Nice.
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Cryptic offered an actual logical suggestion on a non counter-intuitive non nerf disguised as a benefit solution to actually improve our gaming experience and we poo poo'd the idea? I sure don't remember having this conversation! Link?
lol, the answer is spot on
I usually have character trait setups, the obvious space and ground dedicated traits, but then also a mixed set of traits for episodes, would be great to switch between them at a click of a button...
What is the point of making choices, having options, if we can have it all? It is also not really fitting in what we may call the role playing genre. You form your character to play a certain role, to perform in a certain way. You can be a specialist, a generalist, or something in between. What is the point of doing that, if you can play all roles wherever, whenever you want?
We can choose traits and rechoose them. It is easy and free in this game and that is a very good and nice feature. It seems it is not enough.
I don't remember any flaming or fires over it. The only negatives mentioned were to get the damn BoFF's working properly first.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
I wasn't trying to say make it click of the button and it's easy,,,, but theres episoide missions that do both space and ground, and if your decked in space doing a ground mission your fk'd with abilites lack off, and vise versa. If your trying to form a fleet battle thing and someone has all space traits for a ground mission, everyone has to wait for you to switch your traits and you got 4 people getting annoyed that you had to do that in the first place.
If we have the option to learn it it should be simple to switch bewteen it just like now Boff's can learn mutplie abilites to play 1 ship then change your ship and click of a button go from beam buffs to cannon buffs.
I don't see why there is a problem here.
First off, this wouldn't affect you, since you where still be able to do as you please. Secondly, you are playing with sets of variations, one way or another.
Thirdly, since there are many options, many new traits beeing released, most of us will still constantly face a heck load of choises. Also, not everyone is doing/ likes the role play genre, so I don't know what the comment of yours has to do with anything... Some just create a char to be able to play the game, thats it.
Yeah, it is free...but it is flawed, not complete, and indeed, not good enough. Recent intel suggest that many devs don't even play their own game, at all. This would explain a lot.
As it is now you cannot have the best trait setup at any moment unless you want to hustle with the UI. However I think we are not supposed to use it that way, to change our traits for each mission, situation. You can do it, but that doesn't mean you have to.
It could have been very well the case that we choose our traits and have to stick with them and have to buy a token to retrait. I think the reason it is free and easy, because Cryptic wants to add more reputations and don't want to force us into buying retrait tokens.
You are just asking for 5 more space and ground traits slots, 10 more slots and assigning 10 of a total of 20 for space and 10 for ground. It is a buff.
why players shoted it down ? spliting thats to separate space/ground set (booth 19/10 as we have now) is extremly nice idea.
If it was split up, you would lose half your slots to ground without choice..
It would end up like it did when they forced players to put points into ground skills; in the old days you could go all space or ground...
you should remember - there was traits fixed witn buying toke to retrain them, and i think they abondodne because they intoduced more and more new traits with lockboxes and palyers dodnt wanted to use/buy them many times since it needed 650? zen to 1 token, so they eigter waited fro acumulation of 3+ trait they like to use or simply dont udes it at all.
this change for free war realy good way to go.
That's not what the Op asked for, what he's looking for is a loadout option like we have for our ships, so I click loadout 1 I have my full quota of space traits, loadout 2 the full quota of ground traits.
Of course you wouldn't be restricted to doing it that way you could have anything in between and of course wouldn't have to use the loadouts at all if you so wished and could mix and match traits like loading consoles etc in your ship slots.
well, if it will be 5 and 5 instead of 10/10 then surely a lot of players will not like it. 10/10 solution is way better to me
I would have preferred it if they'd made it so you can slot four or five regular traits in ground and four or five in space (like with the rep traits) as it felt more involved when my characters had different traits rather than all just having all of the space traits available to them active. But sadly they can't go back to that now without everyone screaming NERF.
oh I remember this, it was hysterical
No, the loadouts are not fixed.
The convenience would almost certainly come at the cost of a number of traits.
I think you will only get 4 ground and 4 space instead of 10 of each.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
The inevitable bugs will make me cry.
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I remember when in a certain game you'd be an Affliction Warlock, a Demo Warlock, or Destro Warlock, or some hybrid like SM/Ruin. That's what you were. It was a pain to change. You even had to decide between PvE and PvP builds.
Then they added dual specs. Now for some fights you'd be Aff, others Destro. You'd trek back to a trainer if you needed the spec you didn't have. Spec switching wasn't just a thing for the 1% of the 1% guilds. You had a "main spec", generally, so you'd still be an Aff Lock.
Later, they made everything switch on the fly. You were just a warlock. You picked the best for each fight. Wooo. Fun. At least the added transmog so you didn't have to look like every other warlock on top of being like every other warlock.
I'm surprised they've still drawn the line at switch classes on the fly.
For STO, I like that it doesn't take Zen to fix a trait you don't like. But now that you can switch between a space set and a ground set people* expect you to do so.
When they added the ability to easily change traits they should have divided up the tray in space and ground. Would that have made the people that specialized into just space or just ground frothing mad? Yes, but that's generally the price of being over-specialized, when you're environment changes you go extinct.
*standard internet disclaimers not needed for ordinary people apply
Actually, if there is a reputation level, (omega, delta, counter command, etc) there out to be one slot devoted to it, so we should have 6, not 4 traits for Space and ground, not to mention separate personal traits (at the what, 9 now) for both space and ground each.
Personally, I don't understand your argument. Seperating space and ground skills and traits but using the same resource pool for selecting them is a major misstep that has been in game since day one. The OPs request would not trivialize our choices, it would actually be a step towards fixing said misstep.
Now if only they'd let us max out both Space and ground skills ... cause I refuse to gimp myself in that play I enjoy (space) to buff myself in the play I loathe (ground).
He's not looking for any change to the current system, merely a way to quickly switch the personal traits from space to ground in a single click without having to deselect the existing traits and reselect them again.
I for one would welcome this, it's a pain if you come out of for instance, Bug Hunt and come out straight away to do a space PVE and then having to reselect your space traits, especially if people are waiting for you to queue a game.
Welcome to MMOs, where they even tweak a tribble we might get a bug. So I leave this here.
You remember when they used to fix things and the STF Borg would break?
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First tab is space with the 9/10 Space Trait slots available then the Space Ship Trait slots, then the Space Rep Powers, then the Space Rep Clicky Powers.
Second tab is Ground version of Space (though minus the Ship Traits Slot).
It doesn't make things worse for anyone. It simplifies the system and doesn't require loadout switching. It means when on Ground your ground set is active and vice versa.
KISS principle. This way no-one can really complain about the system, no need to re-slot anything on map change etc. It would just work. Only reason to change something is to try new powers/traits.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
I understand your point, but while it is officially considered an MMORPG, it's not. There is very nearly no RPG in this game. If it was, Science officers would fly Science ships, and deal with scientific things. But they don't. They have the exact same missions as Tactical officers. Those missions play 99.9% the same regardless of your gender, species, or class. The only differences are the tiny number of class-specific optionals which are there for little more than activating a few accolades.
If you allow freely changing your active traits (as is currently the case), there is no reason not to implement a hassle-free system.
It's similar to the reputation system. Originally, you had to buy stacks of 4 items from a vendor and slot them into the rep project. Now, you don't have to buy anything. It made the reputation drastically easier and faster. Personally, I'd like them to take it further and just have a "CLICK TO CONTRIBUTE ALL" button. Because quite literally, I can come up with no reason anyone would ever have a reason to partly fill a rep project.
If the change is from tedious to simple, that seems like a good change to me.
Oh isn't there?
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=22166361&postcount=20
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassdoor
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Cryptic-Studios-Reviews-E267596.htm
Looks legit to me. Now, who is making stuff up?