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cnidaria22cnidaria22 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
If STO does make the Cardassian faction playable like with legacy of Romulus, I wish I could put the Kobali ship and put it in account bank storage. I also wonder if there would be a Solena Dyson Cardassian ship. Those would be interesting features. I keep thinking Dust to Dust is only an aniversary playable.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    They can't do playable Cardassians because the most iconic ship, the Galor, was in the Cardassian lockbox as a cross faction ship. We MIGHT get playable Cardassians as a species unlock, but not a faction.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If a Cardassian Faction is ever released (here's hoping not) then it's unlikely they'll go back and redo previous anniversary events. Cardassian players likely wont have access to the Dyson ships, nor any newer ones. The same can probably be said for the Samsar.
    rattler2 wrote: »
    They can't do playable Cardassians because the most iconic ship, the Galor, was in the Cardassian lockbox as a cross faction ship.
    That's total TRIBBLE dude, and I really wish people would stop spinning this lame argument against the possibility. The Galor, despite it's icon status, is not needed in order for a Cardassian Faction to be released.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »
    They can't do playable Cardassians because the most iconic ship, the Galor, was in the Cardassian lockbox as a cross faction ship. We MIGHT get playable Cardassians as a species unlock, but not a faction.

    Sure they can. Just make the factional Galor different from the lockbox Galor. Couple different ways to do it that I can think of: rename the lockbox Galor a "True Way Galor" (maybe with an alternate paint job available a la mirror ships), and make the factional Galor a destroyer instead of a cruiser (it's canonically considered the former).

    In fact they could make that the mechanics motif for the Cardies: Romulans get super-tactical stuff, KDF gets battlecruisers and raiders, why not make the Cardies' schtick be destroyers?
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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »
    They can't do playable Cardassians because the most iconic ship, the Galor, was in the Cardassian lockbox as a cross faction ship. We MIGHT get playable Cardassians as a species unlock, but not a faction.

    No, the real reason why they can't do an "Expansion" with playable Cardassians :

    They're already lots of Patrols in Cardassian Space :P ...
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  • inthefluxxinthefluxx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I went ahead and created an alien that looks like a Cardassian.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    starswordc wrote: »
    Sure they can. Just make the factional Galor different from the lockbox Galor. Couple different ways to do it that I can think of: rename the lockbox Galor a "True Way Galor" (maybe with an alternate paint job available a la mirror ships), and make the factional Galor a destroyer instead of a cruiser (it's canonically considered the former).
    Uhm, no it isn't. The term Destroyer has been used to describe them, sure, but so has the words Cruiser and Warship. There is nothing to say that they are considered specifically to be any of the three.

    The DS9 Tech Manual states it to be a Cruiser, so if anything, I'd be inclined to think of the Galor as a Cruiser over a Destroyer. The Destroyer term seemingly came from it's use and multiple appearances during the Dominion War, but even there it was often referenced as a Warship or Cruiser.

    Unless you have a more specific source?
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    flash525 wrote: »
    Uhm, no it isn't. The term Destroyer has been used to describe them, sure, but so has the words Cruiser and Warship. There is nothing to say that they are considered specifically to be any of the three.

    The DS9 Tech Manual states it to be a Cruiser, so if anything, I'd be inclined to think of the Galor as a Cruiser over a Destroyer. The Destroyer term seemingly came from it's use and multiple appearances during the Dominion War, but even there it was often referenced as a Warship or Cruiser.

    Unless you have a more specific source?

    Nope, looks like you're right. I coulda sworn the DS9 TM called it a destroyer.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    starswordc wrote: »
    Nope, looks like you're right. I coulda sworn the DS9 TM called it a destroyer.

    They did. But it has been called both throughout the series.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Galor_class

    Edit: Derp, I didn't notice that "TM" there when I wrote my comment. I don't know what the TM listed it as, but it was predominantly called a destroyer in DS9. While more often refered to as a cruiser in TNG.
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  • ktonof1aqktonof1aq Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Why? WHY WHYYYYY? Do people keep asking for a new playable faction when there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE with whatever skin they slap on the frame. Does the game play different if you are Klingon?

    Not really.

    If you play any fed "Playable" character, the game reacts the same.
    If you play and Klink "playbable" character, the game reacts the same.

    What value is another stupid skin?
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »
    They can't do playable Cardassians because the most iconic ship, the Galor, was in the Cardassian lockbox as a cross faction ship. We MIGHT get playable Cardassians as a species unlock, but not a faction.

    :rolleyes:

    Honestly that's the lamest excuse the playerbase has come up with. A Cardassian faction Galor does not have to have the same stats as a lockbox Galor. In fact, judging with how they did the Romulans, the Galor would likely end up either a T3 or T4 ship with maybe a T5 refit version, all of which could have different stats, consoles, and boff slots than the lockbox Galor.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Back when Perpetual was still working on STO, Cardassian were planned to be a Fed playable species.

    Considering they are considered as a Fed protectorate ingame, it's not unlikely they come as part of the federation, a bit like the Ferengi or the Fed Klingons. With some unique costume and stuff added.
    Something much smaller than LoR, with perhaps only the first 10 lvl having unique missions (and a unique ship).

    To be honest, there isn't much left of the Cardassian in STO. Even the Romulan have more. They are merely a protectorate, lost pretty much all their fleets and planets, Cardassia was ruined, and they face a civil war.
    The Romulan also face a civil war and lost the homeworld, but the bulk of their military strength was still intact. And their colonies survived pretty much unscathed.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    starswordc wrote: »
    Nope, looks like you're right. I coulda sworn the DS9 TM called it a destroyer.
    They did. But it has been called both throughout the series.

    Edit: Derp, I didn't notice that "TM" there when I wrote my comment. I don't know what the TM listed it as, but it was predominantly called a destroyer in DS9. While more often refered to as a cruiser in TNG.
    It is possible [though not confirmed] that they're given a different title depending on what they're being used for. We know (I think) in TNG that the Galor Cruiser was labelled as a Type 3 Galor, the Type 3 could be the Cruisers, which might have been retrofitted (to become Type 4) during the Dominion War turning them into Destroyers?

    Just a thought, but it makes sense to think the Cardassians (or the Dominion) would want to battle harden their ships for their war with the Federation and Allies. The only drawback to this is that the Cardassians have already had smaller wars with the Federation, and as such should have already had capable starships at their disposal.
    ktonof1aq wrote: »
    What value is another stupid skin?
    It would serve as a cash cow for Cryptic, though after playing a Romulan (three times) and realizing it's more of the same, a Cardassian cash cow is one that I'd avoid playing. I've got four characters, and nomatter how far I get with my secondary ones (one of which includes a Republican) I always end up going back to my main two. There's just not enough variation.
    erei1 wrote: »
    Back when Perpetual was still working on STO, Cardassian were planned to be a Fed playable species.
    At this stage in game, I would much rather Cryptic release playable Cardassians (though for all three existing factions). I've said before, but save digging up an old thread/post, I think it would best serve Cryptic by releasing a Cardassian Package. Included within should/would be;

    * Playable Cardassian Character Token
    * Hideki Type starter ship
    * x3 Cardassian Bridge Officer Tokens (x1 Tac, x1 Sci, x1 Eng)
    * T5 Cardassian Galor (unlocked at level #40, useful until level #50)
    * T5 (new design) Cardassian Ship Token (enables a single free c-store Cardassian ship purchase)
    * Cardassian Costume
    * Cardassian Weaponry (ground)
    * Other Bits and Bobs

    The c-store could do with three - six T5R/T6 designs, only purchasable to people that have purchased this package. One ship (token) enables a free purchase, the others, if you want, you pay for. Cardassian Bridge Officers would also be added to the c-store for all to purchase (though someone who purchases this pack would get three for free). Enable the pack for all factions, and at a sum of 10000zen. Problem solved!

    Ideally this would come out alongside a species retrait token; I don't think it's fair that everyone who might want to play as a Cardassian should have to restart from scratch.
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