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Why Can We Not Reuse PADDs?

olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
edited February 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
It seems pretty obvious to me that we should be able to reuse a PADD. In the trek universe, they were like the tablet computers we use today. Obviously a tablet today can be used for many things and the data on it can be wiped and rewritten.

Given what we can do with a tablet today, why on earth are we having to make additional PADDs all the time instead of just reusing the few we make? If one breaks, I understand getting a new one. However, it seems very non trek to make something that cannot be recycled in some way. And if the PADD was a one time use thing, you should at least get a used PADD back so you can pull parts from it and reuse those. Or, at the very least, recycle them in the replicator and get something out of them like R&D parts that can be used again. After all, energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

Yes, I am seriously over thinking this.

Still, it is logical to think that in the 25th century, a PADD can be used multiple times. I sincerely request that this change to the game be made.

O
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Dilithium sink.
    Green people don't have to be.... little.
  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Yes, the point is to use up limited resources. If they were made to be reusable, then they would be probably 32,500 dilithium (e.g. ship equipment) rather than 200.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Okay, I don't think you all see where I am coming from. Yes, I know the obvious answer is they want yet another dil sink.

    However, if they want to keep with Trek, it seems ridiculous to create something that cannot be reused in some way. Something as small as a PADD seems like it should be reusable.
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  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I see where you're coming from, and I don't see why it shouldn't be reusable personally. If they wanted, they could even have a "permanent" version. This would make sense in terms of "borrowing" the trainer's one, but "having" your own.

    Alas, there seemingly hasn't been much thought put into the new training mechanic at all on this, or any other aspect of it.
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    it doesn't make sense that Doffs disappear when you send them to your fleet base either.....if you're really the type who needs a story/reality explanation for a gameplay mechanic just make one up :D
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Everyone knows books are eaten in the star trek universe. That's why they are not reusable !
    janus1975 wrote: »
    Yes, the point is to use up limited resources. If they were made to be reusable, then they would be probably 32,500 dilithium (e.g. ship equipment) rather than 200.
    The specialization PADD already cost that price.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    They are made by android
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • robertcrayvenrobertcrayven Member Posts: 355 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Because cash cash cash cash cash cash, that's why.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,609 Community Moderator
    edited January 2015
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  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    hypos are supposed to be refillable, instead we use them once and then throw them away.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    kamenriderzero1 wrote: »
    hypos are supposed to be refillable, instead we use them once and then throw them away.

    True! Not very trek!

    We need to make some of these things reusable. It seems completely ridiculous that we can't. I know there are rechargeable batteries, but why are not ALL batteries like that? It makes sense to make them rechargeable!
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    If you started reusing PADDs, you're taking away resources from the Replicators. That PADD in your hands could be recycled into an Epi-pen for your diabetic Ensign.


    Let me ask you, sir: Are you heartless enough to deny your Ensign the shot that could save his life from Neelix's cooking?
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    leadme2kirk wrote: »
    Oh, noes! We'll have to spend dil and mats to craft a hypo and then buy needles and the medication to fill it with.

    And you could have spent that dilithium and those materials on ship upgrades and armor upgrades.

    Now don't you feel like such a fool? You would have missed out on those wonderful grinds!

    :eek:
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Just so many things in the game that are not very trek. I think they need to retool some of things they have in place.

    Can't reuse a PADD? Just a bunch of nonsense.
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  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Well, you see, the resources don't go into the PADD itself, but into the highly advanced training software installed on it.

    This software is optimized using a neurological analysis of the brain of the bridge officer receiving the training, so that the information can be specifically customized to maximize memory retention at both conscious and unconscious levels.

    Unfortunately, because every individual is neurologically unique, a training package designed for one person's brain can't be used for anyone else. So, the training package has to be re-customized, at great trouble and expense, for each new recipient.

    (And if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. :D )
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Because then the dilithium-investment would be too slim.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    olivia211 wrote: »
    However, if they want to keep with Trek...
    Keep with Trek.... You mean like playable Nicors, destroying the crystalline with weapons instead of resonance frequencies, and taking down a borg cube in 10 seconds?
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It's best not to think about it. I mean, dilithium is used as a currency for crying out loud. :rolleyes:
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    olivia211 wrote: »
    It seems pretty obvious to me that we should be able to reuse a PADD. In the trek universe, they were like the tablet computers we use today. Obviously a tablet today can be used for many things and the data on it can be wiped and rewritten.

    Given what we can do with a tablet today, why on earth are we having to make additional PADDs all the time instead of just reusing the few we make? If one breaks, I understand getting a new one. However, it seems very non trek to make something that cannot be recycled in some way. And if the PADD was a one time use thing, you should at least get a used PADD back so you can pull parts from it and reuse those. Or, at the very least, recycle them in the replicator and get something out of them like R&D parts that can be used again. After all, energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

    Yes, I am seriously over thinking this.

    Still, it is logical to think that in the 25th century, a PADD can be used multiple times. I sincerely request that this change to the game be made.

    O

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    erei1 wrote: »
    Everyone knows books are eaten in the star trek universe. That's why they are not reusable !

    The specialization PADD already cost that price.
    In EC.... they're still only 200dil.

    My thought is that your boff keeps it. If you tell someone to learn something and show them a book you're not going to have them memorize it in 5 minutes.

    The most realistic way to do it would be similar to how you can endlessly copy a file using modern computers. BUT that would make the data essentially free, and thus doesn't make for interesting gameplay. Actually, it doesn't seem to make for interesting TV either since writers are constantly acting like data backups don't exist....
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,667 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    At least the cannibalism has ended, and the screaming has stopped.

    Remember the dinner scene in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom? That used to be how boffs learned. Yum!
  • imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    chalpen wrote: »
    They are made by android

    Don't you mean Apple? They need to be updated with another $900 expenditure every 12 months for the exact same hardware you purchased 12 months ago, but the new one has Siri...
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Tell you what, the can keep making the PADDs single use as long as they keep letting me respawn.
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  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    olivia211 wrote: »
    Okay, I don't think you all see where I am coming from. Yes, I know the obvious answer is they want yet another dil sink.

    However, if they want to keep with Trek, it seems ridiculous to create something that cannot be reused in some way. Something as small as a PADD seems like it should be reusable.

    I agree whole heartedly but the JJ Abrams of Cryptic just don't seem to want to come remotely close to canon at this point and it's sad.
  • abystander0abystander0 Member Posts: 649 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You really don't want to reuse those PADDS. After what your bridge officers do with them...be thankful that they are disposed of. :eek:


    It's more hygienic this way. :D
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