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Star Trek: 50 Years of Humanism

drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Ten Forward
Lest anyone has forgotten, here's a video to remind us all that what is best about Star Trek has always been about what was best inside all of *us*.

Please give it a watch.

http://youtu.be/Qe7axuTmoUg
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Please give it a watch.

    But i dont wanna :P
  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    edited December 2014
  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Excellent video. Very illuminating.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    But i dont wanna :P

    Try this one instead then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014

    But but ....its to hard to click the link :D

    ( Im just randomley whining just for kicks lol )
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    But but ....its to hard to click the link :D

    ( Im just randomley whining just for kicks lol )

    The "gist" of the video I linked...Star Trek "We come in peace...shoot to kill, shoot to kill."
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The "gist" of the video I linked...Star Trek "We come in peace...shoot to kill, shoot to kill."

    i found a better vid i was never into claymation

    STAR TREKKIN
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Star Trek has and always will be about making money for those who run it, nothing more.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Star Trek has and always will be about making money for those who run it, nothing more.

    This is correct. Unfortunate, but correct.

    It is about taking a message, a message of inspiration, hope, and transcending the human condition.

    Then putting a trademark on that message and licensing it to others to get insanely rich.

    Do you want to know just how close humanity is to achieving the greatness portrayed in Star Trek? How the savagery of humanity is close to be sloughed off like necrotic skin? Do people want to see the progress made in humanity's name thanks to the science fiction franchise spawned by Gene Roddenberry?

    Look on the STO forums. Go into most any thread. Go watch how people behave on Smirk's livestreams. Go watch ESD Zone chat. Go to 4chan's area of STO. Go to Reddit's area of STO. Read the tweets left by fans of Star Trek fans. Look at the common communication made between players, and any defiance of that trend of communication as a sign of weakness.

    Look at the polarization present in the STO forums from the people who love Star Trek. Look at the mockery, look at the cynicism (even from me), look at how we treat other human beings who love Star Trek just as much as we do by calling them animals and trying to dehumanize them.

    Look in the gameplay of Star Trek itself. As the signature of Scapes from the ArcheAge forums says, "Nothing says more about humanity than the games it plays."

    And what does Star Trek Online say about how close we are to achieving the utopia Roddenberry created so many years ago?

    It says destroy. Kill. Vaporize. Sabotage. It says destroy ships. It says make money. It says gamble with mystery boxes. It says work hard in a Sisyphus-like fashion in some cases.

    Oh yes, 50 years of Star Trek humanism is very much present and openly visible to all who play Star Trek Online and interact with others.

    And it is why it is science fiction.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Never was even about that. It was a form of entertainment created by a man to feed his family, simple as that. It's entertainment, and that is all it will be.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Never was even about that. It was a form of entertainment created by a man to feed his family, simple as that. It's entertainment, and that is all it will be.

    It may have been about entertainment at first, but once Roddenberry knew Star Trek had a growing fanbase with thick wallets, it became more than that.

    It wasn't just making money from the TV studio, it became making money off of the fanbase.

    Even Leonard Nimoy was opposed to wearing the IDIC symbol in one episode because he knew it meant absolutely nothing but something Gene could package and sell to the fans.
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    This is correct. Unfortunate, but correct.

    It is about taking a message, a message of inspiration, hope, and transcending the human condition.

    Then putting a trademark on that message and licensing it to others to get insanely rich.

    Do you want to know just how close humanity is to achieving the greatness portrayed in Star Trek? How the savagery of humanity is close to be sloughed off like necrotic skin? Do people want to see the progress made in humanity's name thanks to the science fiction franchise spawned by Gene Roddenberry?

    Look on the STO forums. Go into most any thread. Go watch how people behave on Smirk's livestreams. Go watch ESD Zone chat. Go to 4chan's area of STO. Go to Reddit's area of STO. Read the tweets left by fans of Star Trek fans. Look at the common communication made between players, and any defiance of that trend of communication as a sign of weakness.

    Look at the polarization present in the STO forums from the people who love Star Trek. Look at the mockery, look at the cynicism (even from me), look at how we treat other human beings who love Star Trek just as much as we do by calling them animals and trying to dehumanize them.

    Look in the gameplay of Star Trek itself. As the signature of Scapes from the ArcheAge forums says, "Nothing says more about humanity than the games it plays."

    And what does Star Trek Online say about how close we are to achieving the utopia Roddenberry created so many years ago?

    It says destroy. Kill. Vaporize. Sabotage. It says destroy ships. It says make money. It says gamble with mystery boxes. It says work hard in a Sisyphus-like fashion in some cases.

    Oh yes, 50 years of Star Trek humanism is very much present and openly visible to all who play Star Trek Online and interact with others.

    And it is why it is science fiction.

    We're the Terran Empire.

    Belly shirts and wanton non-consensual sex until the end of days!

    Start growing your goatee, gentlemen.
    "A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"

    -Leonard Nimoy, RIP
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    We're the Terran Empire.

    Belly shirts and wanton non-consensual sex until the end of days!

    Start growing your goatee, gentlemen.

    I always saw us more as the Ferengi. That was kind of the joke in DS9. That the Ferengi were reviled and despised by most, but that they were 'us'.
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  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    all inventions can be chased back to basic purpose wealth and power. what we make out of those teachings matters ...
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Star Trek: 50 Years of Humanism
    While I'm all for that concept and all, using it to refer to a continuity where humans are depicted amongst so many alien species, the term kinda seems... racist, ironically.

    Maybe it's just me being too anal about word usage in relation to context, as I usually am.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Isn't it a tad early to say Star Trek: 50 years of Humanism and better to say Star Trek: 48.25 years of Humanism?
  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Bluegeek
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    catstarsto wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Bluegeek

    Too bad nobody will listen. They'll just try to blatantly attack this post.
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  • cpthotpantscpthotpants Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    +for Sam, Hitch, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Matt, the AE! Nice vid OP!

    Star Trek can be about making money, but that can be said about every artistic endevour in history.
    It's also about progress, the dream of becoming better than we are, the triumph of empathy and the wish for self-improvement. We play this, instead of counter strike or wow, because something in it speaks to us. Its not about destruction and killing, its about the stories, taking part in the dream of exploration, overcoming the odds, standing for your principles and fighting for whats right.

    But if you're here for the magic boxes thats cool too.

    Also, happy Festivus everyone :D
  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    +for Sam, Hitch, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Matt, the AE! Nice vid OP!

    Star Trek can be about making money, but that can be said about every artistic endevour in history.
    It's also about progress, the dream of becoming better than we are, the triumph of empathy and the wish for self-improvement. We play this, instead of counter strike or wow, because something in it speaks to us. Its not about destruction and killing, its about the stories, taking part in the dream of exploration, overcoming the odds, standing for your principles and fighting for whats right.

    But if you're here for the magic boxes thats cool too.

    Also, happy Festivus everyone :D

    thats what brought me to the game, exploring and adventure...im a fan of the old tall ship books so i dress CatStar as an old navy officer and even use the risa cruiser now since it looks like a tall ship. originally i bought the vulcan ship since it looked the closest to a tall ship, but its been made obsolete now. i miss the old exploring missions, they where generic in respect to the potential of this game but they kept me comig back...i miss the first contact ones too. this game would be so much more fun if there more tv show situations where u have to think and use diplomacy and rasoning to solve stuff...a game that makes u think and contemplate ones self and learn about new and alien cultures. im envious of old sailors they got to do this kinda stuff for real
  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    catstarsto wrote: »
    im envious of old sailors they got to do this kinda stuff for real

    Yep, they sure did get to do exactly what we do in STO-for real.
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  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yep, they sure did get to do exactly what we do in STO-for real.

    if that where true id be pushing my officers into the water once a day :3
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2014
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    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    catstarsto wrote: »
    some day you will have to answer for all u did...

    Why did you spell you at the start of that but then use "u" instead of "you" later?
  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    catstarsto wrote: »

    They got to fight all the new people they met just like we do.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    They got to fight all the new people they met just like we do.

    I like some of the discussions out there about who came up with...

    "Join X, Travel to Foreign Places, Meet Exotic People, and Kill Them"

    ...as if it's not something we've been doing for hundreds of thousands of years.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Bluegeek

    Please try again. Nowhere in his post did he accuse you or anyone here of having no morales.
    Superb overreaction.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Please try again. Nowhere in his post did he accuse you or anyone here of having no morales.
    Superb overreaction.

    Lol...it starts off that way with the very first sentence and continues on like a sermon from the pulpit from there. That kind of proselytizing has no place on the forums.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Funny how one cannot express their opinion here if it is different from the mainstream.

    That's what he was doing. I do not see someone going, "You need to change! You need to convert to this or else etc!"
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Funny how one cannot express their opinion here if it is different from the mainstream.

    It's all there in the "Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies" - http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/announcement.php?f=129&a=51

    Has nothing to do with opinions, mainstream, or anything like that. We're not supposed to talk about certain things - regardless of what our opinion on those things are, and that generally precisely the reason we're not supposed to talk about certain things - that difference of opinion and arises from it.
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