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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Are you really serious? LOL. You know you hit someone by seeing a splatter of frozen water goes everywhere across their jacket and face...

    I guess my grafix settings are set to low to see that.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    I guess my grafix settings are set to low to see that.
    :eek:

    Oh..you meant in-game...if you meant in real life... I was about to say...
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I never had issues with them. As when I'm doing the winter event there is little to no people on. And then I head on to do missions or log off.

    However if the player was using it on me enough to lose the race for the the ship. Then it does becomes an issue. If I had to do it again or multiple times.

    They can still take out snowmen, and you can still hit other players. So it don't really matter much.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    farmallm wrote: »
    I never had issues with them. As when I'm doing the winter event there is little to no people on. And then I head on to do missions or log off.

    However if the player was using it on me enough to lose the race so I can get the ship. Then it does becomes an issue.

    They can still take out snowmen, and you can still hit other players. So it don't really matter much.

    2 things:

    1. did you know that snowmen do pelt you with snowballs if you run the race during the snowman fight ?

    2. Did you know that no player can get hit by snowballs if they're in Q's gazebo ?

    Seems the AI snowmen can grief everybody, but somehow the devs missed the obvious solution by blocking snowballs from the track the same way they are blocked in Q's building. Yes, a typical overreaction by the nerfing police, defended by the whitehats.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    2 things:

    1. did you know that snowmen do pelt you with snowballs if you run the race during the snowman fight ?

    2. Did you know that no player can get hit by snowballs if they're in Q's gazebo ?

    Seems the AI snowmen can grief everybody, but somehow the devs missed the obvious solution by blocking snowballs from the track the same way they are blocked in Q's building. Yes, a typical overreaction by the nerfing police, defended by the whitehats.

    I've been hit by snowballs in the Gazebo. It was from a player.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    I've been hit by snowballs in the Gazebo. It was from a player.

    In 3 years I've never ONCE been hit with a snowball inside the gazebo, so I'll have to call BS on your comment.
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  • kristaswiftkristaswift Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    According to tribble patch notes today


    Snowballs are no longer useful in winter wonderland. Not only do they NOT knock down other players after multiple hits but according to the notes they no longer are effective as a weapon in any winter wonderland activity. Apparently you are now forced to buy A snow weapon. I wonder what happens next year when unarmed players enter the WW and can't battle or grind for trinkets to buy a snow weapon.

    This is bu*****t. When does this sucking the fun out of STO stop ? The WW is supposed to be a holiday fun zone to escape for a while, why do they need to nerf snowballs ?

    See where priorities are...The game has been BROKEN literately since DR launched and now NERFING balls due to some creeps complaining and whining about knocking players or mommie...they hit "me".... What about the whining/complaining about fixing LEVELING XP....or something more sympathetic like fixing city at DEFERA...selective whining will get you somewhere :D
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I don't use snow balls but I must say I am disappointed by the removal of the knockdown. I understand why it was done as I watched the thread started about it. I believe the correct response would have been to remove the knockdown for areas OUTSIDE of WW. I was involved in a couple of fun snowball fights 2 years ago, They were ongoing fights during the course of the PvP race. I remember the snowballs were even advertised as a PvP weapon that year and they were encouraged. It was one of the few times I engaged in PvP in this game.

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  • varekraithvarekraith Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    According to tribble patch notes today


    Snowballs are no longer useful in winter wonderland. Not only do they NOT knock down other players after multiple hits but according to the notes they no longer are effective as a weapon in any winter wonderland activity. Apparently you are now forced to buy A snow weapon. I wonder what happens next year when unarmed players enter the WW and can't battle or grind for trinkets to buy a snow weapon.

    This is bu*****t. When does this sucking the fun out of STO stop ? The WW is supposed to be a holiday fun zone to escape for a while, why do they need to nerf snowballs ?

    I fail to see why you no longer being able to knock down players is nerfing your 'fun'. Throwing snowballs is still fun without the kb.
    Unless, of course, you're a troll.
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  • rimmarierimmarie Member Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    In 3 years I've never ONCE been hit with a snowball inside the gazebo, so I'll have to call BS on your comment.


    I just tested this. You can throw snowballs at people.
    You can stand on the step and throw. So your BS call is nullified!
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited December 2014
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    In 3 years I've never ONCE been hit with a snowball inside the gazebo, so I'll have to call BS on your comment.

    I've been hit by them - this year as well - thrown by snowmen. The snowballs can follow you a long way sometimes as you go up into the gazebo. But yeah they wont start throwing them at you if you're in there.

    I ran the race today right in the middle of the snowball fight. I ran right past many snowmen and they left me alone completely. I think I have been attacked by snowmen during the race but it seems very very rare.

    I don't really care about snowballs but if you can still throw them why is "bye bye fun?" It still goes splat doesn't it?
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Don't mind me, I'm just here for the comments

    Same. Let's see where this goes.
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    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    No mention of the snowball nerf in tomorrow's patch notes.

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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Maybe they are nerfing their knockback so that people will quit griefing those trying to do the pie eating comp. Kinda hard to do that one if someone is rapid throwing snowballs at ya.
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  • kristaswiftkristaswift Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    js26568 wrote: »
    No mention of the snowball nerf in tomorrow's patch notes.

    Ha ha haaaaa. Ha. Merry Christmas!

    Stealth Nerfed??? Merry Xmas to you too :D
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    How dare you!!!! Cryptic never stealth nerf anything!
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  • battykoda0battykoda0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Meh every once in a while you see some would-be troll trying to knock down ice racers to TRIBBLE up their daily. Can't say I especially care one way or the other, but that sort of childishness is probably the source of the change.

    This. It only takes one or two disruptive people to change something for everyone. Don't blame the Devs. Blame the idiots that play the game.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    2 things:

    1. did you know that snowmen do pelt you with snowballs if you run the race during the snowman fight ?

    2. Did you know that no player can get hit by snowballs if they're in Q's gazebo ?

    Seems the AI snowmen can grief everybody, but somehow the devs missed the obvious solution by blocking snowballs from the track the same way they are blocked in Q's building. Yes, a typical overreaction by the nerfing police, defended by the whitehats.
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    In 3 years I've never ONCE been hit with a snowball inside the gazebo, so I'll have to call BS on your comment.


    Well I have, trying to do pie eating challenge and some douch nozzle kept hitting me with snowballs and I managed to eat a whopping 2 pies due to them. I am happy to see this change.
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  • battykoda0battykoda0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    2 things:

    1. did you know that snowmen do pelt you with snowballs if you run the race during the snowman fight ?

    2. Did you know that no player can get hit by snowballs if they're in Q's gazebo ?

    Seems the AI snowmen can grief everybody, but somehow the devs missed the obvious solution by blocking snowballs from the track the same way they are blocked in Q's building. Yes, a typical overreaction by the nerfing police, defended by the whitehats.

    I have never once been attacked by an NPC snowman while running the race. I ran 5 toons today, 2 of which were during the snowman spawning. They totally ignored me.
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    battykoda0 wrote: »
    I have never once been attacked by an NPC snowman while running the race. I ran 5 toons today, 2 of which were during the snowman spawning. They totally ignored me.

    I've run the race every time they've had it, and I can say that it does happen. Does it happen often? No, but once I was actually knocked off the track last year, so... (Every other time, I was still able to win the race, but barely.)
    js26568 wrote: »

    It seems that this (snowball nerf) might be a tribble only thing?
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Didn't really read thru this entire thread but, did anyone consider whether the snowmen can still knock us over with their snowballs?
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    In 3 years I've never ONCE been hit with a snowball inside the gazebo, so I'll have to call BS on your comment.

    Yea, deny what you never saw. It just happened several days ago.
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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    In 3 years I've never ONCE been hit with a snowball inside the gazebo, so I'll have to call BS on your comment.

    In three years I've never once had a snowman attack me while I'm doing the race. Even if I stand right next to them.
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