I never liked that repetitive Saturday-morning limited animation. Wonder how it would look with 3D computer animation today? Just transfer the audio track...
I never liked that repetitive Saturday-morning limited animation. Wonder how it would look with 3D computer animation today? Just transfer the audio track...
I'd like a new score as well. Filmation had to make cartoons on the cheap and not only did they use repetitious scenes, but the music was practically canned as well. I think I heard some of the same music on their later Lone Ranger, Tarzan, and Zorro works.
On the plus side of "cheap", it meant that we got to hear James Doohan voice a variety of animated characters. :cool:
Doctor Who. Has anyone seen Day of the Daleks special edition? Disc 1: Original version to stop the babies from wetting themselves, Disc 2: Special edition with new GCI effects, new voices, corrected actor flubs, new filmed sequences etc.
Doctor Who could massively do with this kid of treatment, especially the 3rd and 4th Doctors eras. Even if it is only the Dalek and Cybermen stories, GCI the Dalek lasers and re voice them, re voice the Cybermen (but keep the model specific modulations).
GCI Excellian cities, GCI spaceships (so an actual fleet appears in Silver Nemesis and Remembrance of the Daleks, not the same model 20 times), make the freighter move in Earthshock, give all Daleks a blue laser with a X-Ray effect, not just have the actors fall over groaning.
Invasion of the Dinosaurs with actual dinosaurs, The Silurians and Warriors from the Deep, with GCI replacements for really bad costumes that drag you out of the fantastic story.
Small touch ups, like the portal effects from Inferno or
Also maybe try editing the stories down into 4 parters, a lot of 3s stories really suffered from being too bloated (e.g. Green Death, The Silurians), removing pointless scenes that interfere with the flow (the clam scene in Genesis of the Daleks)
Even going as far as to score the episodes as with the new series.
But of cause the BBC won't even animate the missing (1 or 2 parts missing, as per their own rules) episodes from The Crusade, Mission to the Unknown, The Underwater Menace, or The Web of Fear. Or hold out for animating The Wheel in Space, the only incomplete Cyberman story left unanimated.
50 years, and the longest running Sci-Fy series in the world, they might want to put a bit of money into it, they would even get money back from it, Day of the Daleks (Special edition) and Spearhead from Space (The Hi-Def Blue-Ray) are the only classic Doctor Who I've ever bought, and will remain that way unfortunately.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I'd like a new score as well. Filmation had to make cartoons on the cheap and not only did they use repetitious scenes, but the music was practically canned as well. I think I heard some of the same music on their later Lone Ranger, Tarzan, and Zorro works.
On the plus side of "cheap", it meant that we got to hear James Doohan voice a variety of animated characters. :cool:
A new score would depend on whether they individual recordings still exist or what kind of quality could be had by mixing the music out. (I wouldn't dismiss the latter because a lot of the dialogue didn't overlap too badly with the music.)
I would actually favor using the TOS score. And letting directors go wild with some of the establishing shots and fights.
If I had a huge budget to blow on this, I would actually go out and hire some of the fan project directors (Phase II, Star Trek: Continues) to direct and oversee storyboarding that expands the episodes to full length TOS episodes. Those guys' projects may not always have the best acting in every case but they know how to direct 60s Star Trek about as well as anyone alive aside from the people who actually worked on it.
That would be my goal, actually. Translate TAS (minus episodes with rights disputes like The Slaver Weapon) into full fledged TOS episodes.
If anyone here missed the 2013 live action "Space Pirate Capt Harlock" I highly recommend it. It's streaming on Netflix, Amazon and others.
I was all prepared for this movie to be a bit meh like "Space Battleship Yamato" 2012 Live action (both series were created by Leiji Matsumoto and share similar aesthetics) but I really was quite surprised how much I enjoyed it, especially since I had not seen much of the old anime.
My pick for modern CGI remake would have to be Macross.
A new score would depend on whether they individual recordings still exist or what kind of quality could be had by mixing the music out. (I wouldn't dismiss the latter because a lot of the dialogue didn't overlap too badly with the music.)
I would actually favor using the TOS score. And letting directors go wild with some of the establishing shots and fights.
If I had a huge budget to blow on this, I would actually go out and hire some of the fan project directors (Phase II, Star Trek: Continues) to direct and oversee storyboarding that expands the episodes to full length TOS episodes. Those guys' projects may not always have the best acting in every case but they know how to direct 60s Star Trek about as well as anyone alive aside from the people who actually worked on it.
That would be my goal, actually. Translate TAS (minus episodes with rights disputes like The Slaver Weapon) into full fledged TOS episodes.
Well, Alan Dean Foster wrote book versions that often had expanded scenes that weren't in the original. In some cases these radically altered the story. In others they added something akin to a part two to the story. Like Bem.... In the book version, Kirk and co went to his HW after the events that happened in the ep.
Well, Alan Dean Foster wrote book versions that often had expanded scenes that weren't in the original. In some cases these radically altered the story. In others they added something akin to a part two to the story. Like Bem.... In the book version, Kirk and co went to his HW after the events that happened in the ep.
I never liked that repetitive Saturday-morning limited animation. Wonder how it would look with 3D computer animation today? Just transfer the audio track...
Nothing beats Kirk is a Jerk and the blow up dreadnought.
WHAT!?? I THINK NOT!! Why the effects are so tacky, that their AWESOME!!! How dare you even suggest such a horrid thing....k, I forgive. Just this once.
Besides I have every episode, even the last transmission from Moon Base Alpha mine fan episode. :P
Number one rule with any Sci-Fi: If it's unknown, it just turns up, if it's just sitting there, if it looks just a tad remotely dangerous.............for heavens sake, BRING IT INSIDE......walk away and then.......oh, yeah.:rolleyes:
You don't want to see Wind tunnel sock monster remastered? That episode gave 7 year old me nightmares.Made 15 year old me laugh my but off.
I have the series on VHS, I converted it to DVD ,about 14 years ago. Think I should rewatch it.
I'm pretty sure there was a Flash Gordon remake a few years ago....
OOOHHH!!!! DUCK DODGERS IN THE 24th and 1/2 CENTURY!
If by a "few years ago" you mean the disco era film... :rolleyes:
Actually, the same team that creates the fan films Star Trek: Phase II had plans and a concept to make a web series of Buck Rogers. They intended to combine the retro-future, rings-and-rockets look of 1930s movie serials (and time period) with some moderns movie-making sensibilities and throw in the 1980s actors for good measure. I loved the concept teaser and short intro film. (yes, those are the 1980s actors playing Buck's parents) Sadly, it looks like this has all been relegated to development hell.
If by a "few years ago" you mean the disco era film... :rolleyes:
Actually, the same team that creates the fan films Star Trek: Phase II had plans and a concept to make a web series of Buck Rogers. They intended to combine the retro-future, rings-and-rockets look of 1930s movie serials (and time period) with some moderns movie-making sensibilities and throw in the 1980s actors for good measure. I loved the concept teaser and short intro film. (yes, those are the 1980s actors playing Buck's parents) Sadly, it looks like this has all been relegated to development hell.
I loved that show when I was a kid, so I tried watching it on Netflix again a while back... yikes. :P
B5 would be a great choice.
Season 1 of seaQuest was more science than science fiction. I liked that. Season 2 started drifting more into sci fi and season 3... wasn't even finished.
I don't have a working TV (gave up on it after a mountain in the way where I used to live, and I wasn't going to be held hostage by cable fees). What I get is from visiting the channels on the internet. But I would likely have an allergy to SyFy anyway.
That news looked fantastic, until I saw that it is being penned by the same team working on the current Star Trek movies. Considering the gloss-overs and plot holes so far, I'm concerned about the Buck Rogers film. Still want one, though.
Hey, I liked the TAS music. Still do.
(Maybe because I didn't watch all the other Filmation cartoons it was apparently used in.)
I like elements of it. The theme song is the main aspect I'm less big on though I think if we're talking the full Remastered treatment, it would take a new orchestra recording the way TOS Remastered did.
I can't see a TAS remastered getting new dialogue but I can see a lot of potential for silent bits of acting, establishing shots, and fight scenes to really be fleshed out.
If they did an extra two minutes, blocks of two episodes would have the same running time as TOS episodes.
If cartoons and pulp fiction are up for consideration, I'll also submit Captain Future for a modern treatment, so long as they keep the disco-funky Mark Mercury song from the English language cartoon adaptation.
I'd also mention Captain Harlock, but that already had a recent CGI update which while visually stunning, was complete rubbish underneath. Maybe Ulysses 31 or Blackstar?
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I'd like a new score as well. Filmation had to make cartoons on the cheap and not only did they use repetitious scenes, but the music was practically canned as well. I think I heard some of the same music on their later Lone Ranger, Tarzan, and Zorro works.
On the plus side of "cheap", it meant that we got to hear James Doohan voice a variety of animated characters. :cool:
Doctor Who could massively do with this kid of treatment, especially the 3rd and 4th Doctors eras. Even if it is only the Dalek and Cybermen stories, GCI the Dalek lasers and re voice them, re voice the Cybermen (but keep the model specific modulations).
GCI Excellian cities, GCI spaceships (so an actual fleet appears in Silver Nemesis and Remembrance of the Daleks, not the same model 20 times), make the freighter move in Earthshock, give all Daleks a blue laser with a X-Ray effect, not just have the actors fall over groaning.
Invasion of the Dinosaurs with actual dinosaurs, The Silurians and Warriors from the Deep, with GCI replacements for really bad costumes that drag you out of the fantastic story.
Small touch ups, like the portal effects from Inferno or
Also maybe try editing the stories down into 4 parters, a lot of 3s stories really suffered from being too bloated (e.g. Green Death, The Silurians), removing pointless scenes that interfere with the flow (the clam scene in Genesis of the Daleks)
Even going as far as to score the episodes as with the new series.
But of cause the BBC won't even animate the missing (1 or 2 parts missing, as per their own rules) episodes from The Crusade, Mission to the Unknown, The Underwater Menace, or The Web of Fear. Or hold out for animating The Wheel in Space, the only incomplete Cyberman story left unanimated.
50 years, and the longest running Sci-Fy series in the world, they might want to put a bit of money into it, they would even get money back from it, Day of the Daleks (Special edition) and Spearhead from Space (The Hi-Def Blue-Ray) are the only classic Doctor Who I've ever bought, and will remain that way unfortunately.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Yamato 2199 seriously rocks. It is a wonderful revision to the classic series.
Now if they could just dump the "Argo" bit for 2199...
Otherwise, I'd agree on a CGI facelift for B5.
Thank you for the time...
Cryptic, would you actulaly like me to spend actual Money? It's Simple:
A new score would depend on whether they individual recordings still exist or what kind of quality could be had by mixing the music out. (I wouldn't dismiss the latter because a lot of the dialogue didn't overlap too badly with the music.)
I would actually favor using the TOS score. And letting directors go wild with some of the establishing shots and fights.
If I had a huge budget to blow on this, I would actually go out and hire some of the fan project directors (Phase II, Star Trek: Continues) to direct and oversee storyboarding that expands the episodes to full length TOS episodes. Those guys' projects may not always have the best acting in every case but they know how to direct 60s Star Trek about as well as anyone alive aside from the people who actually worked on it.
That would be my goal, actually. Translate TAS (minus episodes with rights disputes like The Slaver Weapon) into full fledged TOS episodes.
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If anyone here missed the 2013 live action "Space Pirate Capt Harlock" I highly recommend it. It's streaming on Netflix, Amazon and others.
I was all prepared for this movie to be a bit meh like "Space Battleship Yamato" 2012 Live action (both series were created by Leiji Matsumoto and share similar aesthetics) but I really was quite surprised how much I enjoyed it, especially since I had not seen much of the old anime.
My pick for modern CGI remake would have to be Macross.
@Kimony: Got Shadow Chronicles? :P
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I 'm not sure if I've seen Shadow Chronicles yet but I found english version on youtube and will be watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvA2baLKc6o
Watched all of Frontier, kinda a Macross redo, it was good, loved the opening theme.
oh and another CGI remake I'd like is Big O
It's mostly just the ship combat scenes that are CGI in SC though.
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Not a remake, not a reboot, just the original movie, but with the Quickening effects re-worked to be as per the TV series :cool:
Nothing beats Kirk is a Jerk and the blow up dreadnought.
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Wow. You went there. :P
I loved that show when I was a kid, so I tried watching it on Netflix again a while back... yikes. :P
B5 would be a great choice.
You don't want to see Wind tunnel sock monster remastered? That episode gave 7 year old me nightmares.Made 15 year old me laugh my but off.
I have the series on VHS, I converted it to DVD ,about 14 years ago. Think I should rewatch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9y3elUKZYY
They were planning in the 90's to make a sequel made-for-tv film to end the original series, but it was never made.
Would LOVE to see this series remade using today's cgi and style. =3
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OOOHHH!!!! DUCK DODGERS IN THE 24th and 1/2 CENTURY!
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If by a "few years ago" you mean the disco era film... :rolleyes:
Actually, the same team that creates the fan films Star Trek: Phase II had plans and a concept to make a web series of Buck Rogers. They intended to combine the retro-future, rings-and-rockets look of 1930s movie serials (and time period) with some moderns movie-making sensibilities and throw in the 1980s actors for good measure. I loved the concept teaser and short intro film. (yes, those are the 1980s actors playing Buck's parents) Sadly, it looks like this has all been relegated to development hell.
OOHHH! news!
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(Maybe because I didn't watch all the other Filmation cartoons it was apparently used in.)
Season 1 of seaQuest was more science than science fiction. I liked that. Season 2 started drifting more into sci fi and season 3... wasn't even finished.
I don't have a working TV (gave up on it after a mountain in the way where I used to live, and I wasn't going to be held hostage by cable fees). What I get is from visiting the channels on the internet. But I would likely have an allergy to SyFy anyway.
That news looked fantastic, until I saw that it is being penned by the same team working on the current Star Trek movies. Considering the gloss-overs and plot holes so far, I'm concerned about the Buck Rogers film. Still want one, though.
I like elements of it. The theme song is the main aspect I'm less big on though I think if we're talking the full Remastered treatment, it would take a new orchestra recording the way TOS Remastered did.
I can't see a TAS remastered getting new dialogue but I can see a lot of potential for silent bits of acting, establishing shots, and fight scenes to really be fleshed out.
If they did an extra two minutes, blocks of two episodes would have the same running time as TOS episodes.
I'd also mention Captain Harlock, but that already had a recent CGI update which while visually stunning, was complete rubbish underneath. Maybe Ulysses 31 or Blackstar?